Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Old McDonald said:

Who?mikejones! said:

I think many are misremembering what trump said.

He never promised no new wars. He said no endless, stupid wars. So, as weve seen, he doesn't considered short, singular action as "war," nor has anything he's done proven to become endless.

So, it is some fantasy on the maga right, along with normal tds people coming together to hate trumps fp.

this is naive. we have 40 years of experience telling us regime change wars in the middle east are never singular decisive actions, but instead endless quagmires that give rise to and endless stream of new problems down the road. yet this time it's differen(T) because… why exactly?

also, very convenient that trump can never betray the "no new wars" promise until they become forever wars once he's out of office

Kuwait was so endless it was timed with an egg timer. Given it wasn't a regime changer it was an anti regime changer. Regardless, if it's done right it won't last long. The amount of assets in place, I give it two weeks max, over and under being 7 day? I'll take the under
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Rapier108
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The Iranian mouthpiece has spoken.

Tucker Qatarlson has declared this to be the end of Trump and MAGA.

I'm no MAGA fan and never have been, but he seems to think MAGA is mostly made up of antisemites like himself, which has never been true.

Guess he is sad so many of his friends have been killed today.

Now we'll have to see what dumbassary comes from Rand Paul, Massie, MTG, Owens, etc.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Old McDonald said:


trump 2026: we're doing a regime change war in iran, some of you may die but that's a risk I'm willing to take



This has become talking point #1 from the left and it's the dumbest most ignorant take possible.

Recognizing the risks, and explaining why we're taking action is not saying he's ok with our troops dying.

We all know death is possible with military action. If anything, it was an obvious comment by him. Trying to twist it to mean something else is ridiculous at best, but devious...more likely.
Im Gipper
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Hope his house in Qatar didn't get hit

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HoustonAggie11
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whatever makes the left and libards mad im for.

Oh and the anti anti semitism on this board out of control.
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Libs and Al Jazeera on the same page as mullahs. The mullahs that just murdered 1000s of protestors .
And want to build nukes to destroy Israel and America.

This is called a winning strategy
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is it too late to purchase bulk Iranian flags on Amazon?

Thinking about opening a stand downtown Dallas and Houston for marked up Iran flags. I'll even have recycling bins available for pro-Palestinian and anti-Ice flags.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Prosperdick said:

Ag87H2O said:



Fetterman on national security is a better Republican than a lot of Republicans.

True but he still sat on his ass at the SOU when Trump asked who would stand for the American people.

Incorrect he stood, it's on video and in the interview with Shannon Bream he said so as well

I didn't know that, dude keeps surprising me.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Prosperdick said:

Ag87H2O said:



Fetterman on national security is a better Republican than a lot of Republicans.

True but he still sat on his ass at the SOU when Trump asked who would stand for the American people.

Incorrect he stood, it's on video and in the interview with Shannon Bream he said so as well

He's an old school Democrat serving in the wrong decade. Based on him having independent thought/opinions from the mob, seems he's going to get primaried.
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Gaeilge said:

Iran about to lose what little navy they have.




Europe and SE Asia having a heart attack on the lack of oil shipments. Too bad we probably cant keep this up for a month to let them sweat balls.
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Captain Pablo said:

Queso1 said:

one safe place said:

Queso1 said:


I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.

You had two choices, Harris or Trump. Neither were perfect. One was a do nothing idiot, the other was Trump.

As to being sick as ****, I think you are exaggerating.


I don't really care if you think I'm exaggerating or not. I still have my beliefs and you can't change them, and that infuriates you.


Your arguments are increasingly dumb


Fair enough. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
I was where you were in 2002. Good luck with it.
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The fake historian is big mad!


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Silvertaps
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good grief...this guy is apparently in competition for the same target audience as Candice Owens
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I stand behind President Trump and the US military 100%. The Islamic regime is a serious threat to the US because they continue to support terrorism and pursue nuclear capabilities.
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Queso1 said:

How does this benefit us? This solves inflation? This cleans up our cities that we cant even walk through? This cleans up 20+ million illegals? This cleans up mosques in our cities blaring the call to prayer? Nonsense. This is but a ruse.

We can't walk and chew gum at the same time?

We can't enforce our immigration law here because we are in combat operations with iran?

Im Gipper
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The RRRREEEE from the clown class is outstanding. Horseshoe indeed


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Queso1
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Clearly not.
Rapier108
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As usual, siding with the Democrats.

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Gaeilge said:

Iran about to lose what little navy they have.



Europe and SE Asia having a heart attack on the lack of oil shipments. Too bad we probably cant keep this up for a month to let them sweat balls.

The UAE could bank biggly if the Hajar Mountains didn't exist. A nice straight canal from the Gulf of Oman to the Arabian Gulf could make big bucks.
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But first: Ear-ron or Eye-ran??

TyHolden
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Do we expect terrorist attacks in the US ???

I need to go to the mall.
Texas12&0
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Unbelievable how the Left loves Dictators who oppress/kill their own people and have killed thousands of Americans over the decades.
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Texas12&0 said:

Unbelievable how the Left loves Dictators who oppress/kill their own people and have killed thousands of Americans over the decades.

They'd love to be able to do that here.

Same reason why some of the whackos on the "right" love regimes like Iran, along with hating Israel of course.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Alerting Congress beforehand is the same as alerting our enemies.
The treasonous members of Congress or members of their staff would definitely leak the information to the target regime.
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BuddysBud said:

Alerting Congress beforehand is the same as alerting our enemies.
The treasonous members of Congress or members of their staff would definitely leak the information to the target regime.

100%. Massie, his bestie Ro Khanna, and all of the squad would have been calling the Ayatollah within seconds.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

As usual, siding with the Democrats.



"The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force or a declaration of war by the United States."

Trump reportedly met with Congressional leadership of the House and Senate yesterday, I assume to inform them of what was coming. This thing may be finished before the 60 day time limit that would either require congressional approval or trigger a withdrawal.

Massie is a massive piece of crap trying to stir the pot against a president he hates in the middle of a military action. He needs to shut up and see how it all plays out. If Congressional approval ends up being necessary to continue the mission, he'll get his chance to vote on it.
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Waiting on the crying Obama lecture….
Who?mikejones!
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We did alert the gang of 8 before the strikes and then alerted the oversight committees after it atarted
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Queso1 said:

Clearly not.

Huh? What are you talking about?

This operation is 11 hours old. Have our borders been overrun since? Have we stopped fighting inflation?

Your answer doesn't even make sense
Im Gipper
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I'm Gipper
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4 said:

Queso1 said:

Clearly not.

Huh? What are you talking about?

This operation is 11 hours old. Have our borders been overrun since? Have we stopped fighting inflation?

Your answer doesn't even make sense


We've been at war for 25 years. This is just another one.
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Silvertaps said:

is it too late to purchase bulk Iranian flags on Amazon?

Thinking about opening a stand downtown Dallas and Houston for marked up Iran flags. I'll even have recycling bins available for pro-Palestinian and anti-Ice flags.
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Ag87H2O said:

Massie is a massive piece of crap trying to stir the pot against a president he hates in the middle of a military action. He needs to shut up and see how it all plays out. If Congressional approval ends up being necessary to continue the mission, he'll get his chance to vote on it.

Agreed. Massie's small government rhetoric pulled in a lot of people from the right but he has been showing his true colors the last few months (maybe longer but I haven't paid attention to it as much as I have lately).

If you have a problem with the sitting President, who is a member of your own party, express your greivances behind closed doors, with that President. Your first instinct shouldn't be to immediately run to thje 1st open microphone and express your disdain to the world - especially when the President is following the law.

Until Trump violates the War Powers Act, STFU!

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BTKAG97 said:

Ag87H2O said:

Massie is a massive piece of crap trying to stir the pot against a president he hates in the middle of a military action. He needs to shut up and see how it all plays out. If Congressional approval ends up being necessary to continue the mission, he'll get his chance to vote on it.

Agreed. Massie's small government rhetoric pulled in a lot of people from the right but he has been showing his true colors the last few months (maybe longer but I haven't paid attention to it as much as I have lately).

If you have a problem with the sitting President, who is a member of your own party, express your greivances behind closed doors, with that President. Your first instinct shouldn't be to immediately run to thje 1st open microphone and express your disdain to the world - especially when the President is following the law.

Until Trump violates the War Powers Act, STFU!



Massie is the only member of the Massie TDS Party
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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What is the regime change plan? Best guesses. The Venezuela plan was not obvious when Maduro was captured but solidified in less than a week. Who do we work with assuming the current/late group of Baddies are no more?
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
 
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