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Donald J. Trump Truth Social Post 10:05 PM EST 03.18.26

Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars Gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of the whole has been hit. The United States…

— Commentary Donald J. Trump Posts From Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) March 19, 2026

Trump didnt have to post this about Bibi publicly. He chose to. Good Trump shining through.

Imagine Trump again claiming "Israel doesnt know WTF they are doing", then slowly adopting the position that this is Israel's war with Iran. That we did our part to Midnight Hammer them, 2.0 with Ep Fury. That its not in the US taxpayer's best interest to fund Bibi's regime change aspirations.

When that happens, I highly doubt F16 will call Trump a "jew hater". They will hop on board and pretend they always knew this was Israel's war, not ours.

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Yup. Trump is listening and understands that many of his voters (not the neo-con warhawks), myself included, think he got played by Israel/Bibi/Miriam Adelson, which he was. It's also causing many folks to question Israel's motives and scrutinize Israel in a much more vigorous way than in the past which has been needed for quite some time. If all this reduces the effect of the Israel lobby in the US, I will be pleased.

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It will. 90% of 40 and Unders are not only America First, but America Only. Israel (and everybody else) better get as much as they can becuase the gravy train is about to leave the station. Young Americans are broke and disenfranchised, that money will be staying at home in the future.

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Enviroag02 said:

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For some people to believe that Iran is an imminent threat, Iran would actually have to attack the US. For rational people to believe that Iran is an imminent threat they would simply have to take Iran at their word and believe the same regime that is willing to murder their own people and publically hang their own people might simply be in and of itself an imminent threat. Which person are you?

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Mattressburn said:

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Enviroag02 said:

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I simply used the religious component to highlight the fact that the Iranian regime believes it is their absolute duty to eliminate us. They are driven by that even moreso than helping their own people. That's a bit different than NK I would think.

What would you need to see to believe that Iran was an in imminent threat?

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The ability to do anything about it.


Iran has been an imminent threat for 40-some odd years. That's not imminent. I thought we obliterated their nuclear capability months ago, and any talk otherwise was trying to make the admin look bad.

A dozen (and I will use a term from the president) "s*&t hole countries want to wish death to America. We could swat any attack away as we do with flies. Then go flatten that country in a second, and I'd be for boots on the ground. We'd have international backing. The problem is when you actually go "I hate flies, let's kill all the flies, and let's get new flies that won't bother us". "In fact, I hate flies so much I am going to go fight my neighbor's flies for me to distract from some files coming out"


But back to the mess here, Regime Change:

How many times has that worked? Iran isn't Afghanistan. First Iran is 2.5x the State of Texas. So a prolonged conflict in Iran will make Afghanistan look like a small misstep.

Trump had "NO IDEA" that Iran would attack our bases and allies in the region???? I work in the Tech Field, I could've told you what Iran was going to do. He got told what Iran was going to do. In fact, you can go read about this. People who actually study these kinds of things have said for years what Iran would do if attacked. It's like public knowledge.


What's the goal here?

Was it just to make Iran no longer an imminent threat? Ok I guess, but we kinda kicked the can down the road a bit. This is honestly the only off-ramp. He'll declare some victory, Mission Accomplished. We'll declare their missle program over or something. Again, until they build it back up again. We're not going to stop them from pumping out $600 drones that do quite a bit of damage and require quite a bit of defensive expenditure on our side to counter.

Full regime change? Good luck, even with boots on the ground, which does anyone have a taste for?

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FobTies said:

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mslags97 said:

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The irony of you coming on and saying nukes wasn't part of the imminent discussion is beyond absurd….

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I was very clear when starting this thread that it was about the Trump claim of an Iranian "plot to attack the US".

We get it. You all love to regurgitate that "Iran was enriching Uranium" -> "therefore they have ambition to build a nuke" -> "therefore its an imminent threat".

Im refering to below. What Tulsi was asked about, but didn't answer. Instead of confirming there was an imminent threat for Epic Fury, she claimed only the POTUS can make that determination.

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FobTies said:

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Enviroag02 said:

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...regime that is willing to murder their own people and publically hang their own people might simply be in and of itself an imminent threat.

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• one is the leadership of a death cult hell bent on genocide.
• one is a dictatorship hell bent on self preservation and accumulating wealth.

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Enviroag02 said:

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Good video…did he use the term imminent?

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North Korea had a button, so not as "imminent" as having 60% enriched Uranium, lol. Logic doesnt matter anymore. This is where we are on F16.

North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2018

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Joe Rogan tells the largest audience on the internet that he thinks Netanyahu is dead, because he just believes anything that floats to the top of the algorithmic slop-heap. Also says Bibi's brother was killed in an airstrike, based on a viral post of a house fire in New Jersey pic.twitter.com/uG5zGm5g25

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) March 21, 2026

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This is silly. There isn't an honest person in either party out there who doesn't think Iran was trying to develop a nuke

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Gap said:

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This is silly. There isn't an honest person in either party out there who doesn't think Iran was trying to develop a nuke, was getting ever closer, and would like to use it against the West (or at least have it as a defense from being obliterated as they continued their damaging and murderous proxy fights against the west).

No reason to relent until Iran has leadership that is friendly to the civilized world.

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Off ramp:
Tell Congress to not approve the 200 billion via backdoor channels.
Tell America we won, but because Congress didn't give the money, we couldn't win more
Leave

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Im Gipper said:

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Joe Rogan tells the largest audience on the internet that he thinks Netanyahu is dead, because he just believes anything that floats to the top of the algorithmic slop-heap. Also says Bibi's brother was killed in an airstrike, based on a viral post of a house fire in New Jersey pic.twitter.com/uG5zGm5g25

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) March 21, 2026

Put the weed down Joe!

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Off ramp:
Tell Congress to not approve the 200 billion via backdoor channels.
Tell America we won, but because Congress didn't give the money, we couldn't win more
Leave

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BMX Bandit said:

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No one cares about the intel, he has 60 days to bomb Iran, then we are out.

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i don't know how long this will last, but I assure you that Trump (like every president before him since the law was passsed) will say the war powers act is unconstitutional and doesn't stop him from doing anything.

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Trump on Congressional Authorization for War:

No other country has ever done it. pic.twitter.com/IQTQy7Vi1Y

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 1, 2026

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No one cares about the intel, he has 60 days to bomb Iran, then we are out.

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Sid Farkas said:

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No one cares about the intel, he has 60 days to bomb Iran, then we are out.

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Obama dropped a bomb every 20 mins for eight years and nobody said a word.

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MarvZindler said:

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Power of the purse. Congress must authorize funding.

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MarvZindler said:

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Power of the purse. Congress must authorize funding.

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Mattressburn said:

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Enviroag02 said:

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I simply used the religious component to highlight the fact that the Iranian regime believes it is their absolute duty to eliminate us. They are driven by that even moreso than helping their own people. That's a bit different than NK I would think.

What would you need to see to believe that Iran was an in imminent threat?

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The ability to do anything about it.


Iran has been an imminent threat for 40-some odd years. That's not imminent. I thought we obliterated their nuclear capability months ago, and any talk otherwise was trying to make the admin look bad.

A dozen (and I will use a term from the president) "s*&t hole countries want to wish death to America. We could swat any attack away as we do with flies. Then go flatten that country in a second, and I'd be for boots on the ground. We'd have international backing. The problem is when you actually go "I hate flies, let's kill all the flies, and let's get new flies that won't bother us". "In fact, I hate flies so much I am going to go fight my neighbor's flies for me to distract from some files coming out"


But back to the mess here, Regime Change:

How many times has that worked? Iran isn't Afghanistan. First Iran is 2.5x the State of Texas. So a prolonged conflict in Iran will make Afghanistan look like a small misstep.

Trump had "NO IDEA" that Iran would attack our bases and allies in the region???? I work in the Tech Field, I could've told you what Iran was going to do. He got told what Iran was going to do. In fact, you can go read about this. People who actually study these kinds of things have said for years what Iran would do if attacked. It's like public knowledge.


What's the goal here?

Was it just to make Iran no longer an imminent threat? Ok I guess, but we kinda kicked the can down the road a bit. This is honestly the only off-ramp. He'll declare some victory, Mission Accomplished. We'll declare their missle program over or something. Again, until they build it back up again. We're not going to stop them from pumping out $600 drones that do quite a bit of damage and require quite a bit of defensive expenditure on our side to counter.

Full regime change? Good luck, even with boots on the ground, which does anyone have a taste for?

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Iran has killed about 1000 Americans since 1979. What's the number they need to kill before you think they REALLY mean it and are going to attack us IMMINENTLY?

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• The attack was carried out by members of the group that would become Hezbollah, with support from Iran. Federal courts have ruled that Iran must pay billions in damages to families of the victims.
• Between 2006 and 2021, 48% of the 2,189 U.S. troop deaths in Iraq (roughly 1,050) were attributed to IEDs and their variants.

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No one cares about the intel, he has 60 days to bomb Iran, then we are out.

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Obama dropped a bomb every 20 mins for eight years and nobody said a word.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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No one cares about the intel, he has 60 days to bomb Iran, then we are out.

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Obama dropped a bomb every 20 mins for eight years and nobody said a word.

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Something was said about it almost as frequently. The people saying it are different, but the criticism is the same

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GAC06 said:

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We'd be better off today if we'd done nothing in Syria and Assad was still in power.

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This is an ass kicking. This is Gulf War 1 air campaign domination stuff against a much stronger, more prepared force, in a much larger country with fewer casualties than what was likely anticipated.

Iran's strategy has been social media flooding, these drone and missile potshots against soft targets and hoping the US media does their part to mislead the public. Democrats seem to be playing along with Iranian propaganda. Pisses me right off.

Trump said from the outset it would be a several week operation and thus far it is on track.

And oil has barely moved higher in the last week despite Hormuz. None of the dire predictions about what would happen if the strait was affected (ermegerd oil $250) have come true at all, yet some in our country seem to be wishing it were.

He needs to stay the damn course and finish the job.

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THIS.

He's completely degraded Iran. Their ballistic missile production is finished.
Their air force is finished.
Their cheap TEMU crap is finished.
They are down to cheap (but effective drones), but those are tactical weapons mostly, not strategic.
They've blown their wad on trying to block Hormuz (it will be successful for only so long)
And they've pissed off their Arab neighbors to where, even if Iran's regime survives, they will invest heavier than ever before in weaponry and defense.

Stay and finish the job. At worst, make Iran a strategic non-entity (like iraq). The best case is a US/world friendly regime

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According to the DIA Director, Iran retains most of its Air Force and missile capabilities.

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