K2-HMFIC said:

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Corruption, economic malaise, the overt kowtowing to Russians all played a role.

Really shocked JD Vance put this much effort into Orbans campaign.

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Are you really though? Irony with your first sentence

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Farmer_J said:

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The only thing I know about him is he was one of the few european leaders that was keeping his country from being invaded by third world invaders.

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One problem the West is currently facing is that there just aren't many genuinely "good" men who have both the desire to enter politics AND have the stomach to enact the changes needed to preserve the civilization. Most of the people willing to do what is necessary are not particularly pleasant or noble and view the democratic process as a hindrance to the needed changes. They also tend to not be as qualified to actually govern so things like economic and foreign policy are often neglected and mismanaged.

To use our country as an example, daddy Bush had by far the best combination of personal virtue and governing talent/knowledge of any President in the living memory of anyone on this board. Had we followed him down the path he wanted to go down we would be so much better off today in almost every way as a nation. And now look how he is viewed in hindsight by most. Look what it got him.

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A library at A&M and a road (Jersey) named after him?

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He got his own choo choo train too.

Bayou City said:

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You guys realize that the party that won is more anti inmigration than Orban right? It's not like the elected a bunch of libs.

They elected a guy who was part of Orban's party, married one of the most powerful women in his Cabinet, and then got pissed over the corruption and started a new center right party.

The elected party is anything but liberal…

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You must have missed the virginia governor's race.

Or Kier Starmer criticizing immigration in UK

Or gavin newsom, leading the charge to fight corruption.

lol, nice try. Every globalist communist celebrated yesterday for a reason.

Again, you guys must not follow politics that closely. The guy is not Orban but hes NOT a liberal. Hes a conservative through and through. He has a HUGE temper, he doesn't like gays, he doesn't like women in the work force and he HATES inmigrants. HATES THEM MORE THAN ORBAN.

The guy hasn't mentioned his positions because 85% of the media is controlled by Fides. He knew anything he said would be taken out of context.

The guys probably more hard line fides than Orban just less corrupt. This guy isn't john thune of Hungary. He's more like a less populistas JD Vance but still a dyed in the wool anti RUSSIA conservative. Hes not anti US hes anti Russia. Hes pro EU because he wants the money that's frozen. Once he gets that, he has no loyalty to them but hungry needs that money for their economy not to stagflate. Kudos

But the good news is there's a decade of him being part of Fides and his opinions haven't changed he just stopped broadcasting those that he knew would be taken out of context w the main stream media. Sound like someone from the US? Yup.

Also, he didn't found his political party. Hungary doesn't really have a liberal party. They have Fides they have t and they have far right. Before it was announced that he was joining T, most people thought his policies actually would out him closer to the far right BUT the far right party has ALOT of issues w the electorate and the way Hungary divides votes would have only entrenched fides even further. That's Why he joined a party. It was the only way for him to get into the W2024 euro parlamentar y elections so that's what he did. He out chessed Orban in a system Orban created to keep him in power.

You guys don't like That Orban got beat because Trump wanted him to win but you have to understand hngaro an politics before you rush to make a decisin.

Watch Over The next 6 months and Lets see how long it takes for DJT to embrace him and everyone on here to realize they're wrong.

Patience is a virtue. You'll all see.

Little different here. This guy has a long history of being anti immigration.

People weren't celebrating because of globalism and policies. It was purely TDS.

And If You're like "Why did he break w Fides when he was the next heir."

He don't like the govt covering up sex abuse against kids…. He's Orban 20 years ago wo the baggage.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20260413-hungary-peter-magyar-former-fidesz-insider-vows-to-dismantle-orban-system-brick-by-brick




Please see he isn't Pro-Ukraine either. He's rational and he can help us by getting that money unlocked for Ukraine. Thats 100+ billion they can use to BUY weapons from US. Peter is giving them the money and then they will turn around and give it to us through arms sales. It's a win win for us.

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Little different here. This guy has a long history of being anti immigration.

People weren't celebrating because of globalism and policies. It was purely TDS.

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So if the guy hates Muslims, which from the Google, is pretty much who their anti immigrant policy affects, as much as the the guy who he just beat, that's at least one thing maga can look forward to about why to like the guy because immigration shouldn't change.

If the guy also doesn't want women working, as someone previously mentioned, that's another thing for maga to like.

As for everything else from not being as friendly to Putin to possibly being helpful to Ukraine and things the EU supports, those are those that might really change the way things are in that part of the world.

He's anti arming Ukraine through hand out EU funds and anti Ukraine fast track or anything but slow ass EU membership.

He's also supposedly speaking about unfreezing part of the money Hungary has held up for Ukraine that causes all the big ass stink about in europe BUT his condition for it being released is it must go to weapons purchases of items only we make. So that's a potential 100+ billion arms deal. That's a nice way to start a relationship w donald if you ask me. Refuse to send them cart blanche checks and equipment and make them pay for it as well. Don't stop the funds but ensure they're spent as marked.

Dudes supposedly a next level ocd anti corruption so he doesn't look at Ukraine and think "trust able".

Bless your all's hearts for thinking that there is a middle of the road choice in the world today.

Anybody up for a $100 side bet?

Bayou City said:

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He's anti arming Ukraine through hand out EU funds and anti Ukraine fast track or anything but slow ass EU membership.

He's also supposedly speaking about unfreezing part of the money Hungary has held up for Ukraine that causes all the big ass stink about in europe BUT his condition for it being released is it must go to weapons purchases of items only we make. So that's a potential 100+ billion arms deal. That's a nice way to start a relationship w donald if you ask me. Refuse to send them cart blanche checks and equipment and make them pay for it as well. Don't stop the funds but ensure they're spent as marked.

Dudes supposedly a next level ocd anti corruption so he doesn't look at Ukraine and think "trust able".

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Sounds like a smart businessman who knows that he can make money for his people, even if it means it comes from, and helps, those he'd rather it not.

Politics 101 at its finest.

Current list of hard lefties supporting Orban's departure, while claiming his replacement is a hard righty, no different than Orban:

Alexander Soros
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Kier Starmer
Zelenskyy
Sanchez
Macron
Merz
EU
Bayou City
FlyRod
The Fall Guy
K2-HMFIC
Malibu
twelve12twelve
Gordo14
Gradin

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Current list of hard lefties supporting Orban's departure, while claiming his replacement is a hard righty, no different than Orban:

Alexander Soros
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Kier Starmer
Zelenskyy
Sanchez
Macron
Merz
EU
Bayou City
FlyRod
The Fall Guy
K2-HMFIC
Malibu
twelve12twelve
Gordo14
Gradin

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Again, the guy has a political history. It's not like he came out of nowhere and his positions are a mystery.

Which means zero.

EVERYTHING is downstream from immigration.

You really think soros is sitting on the sideline, waiting to see what happens?

This one is confusing though. All the leftist globalists who preach interference in local elections to ensure their victory are celebrating this, but at the same time you are telling us this guy is actually better than Orban without the corruption. I guess his past record may show this, but do you not see how this all seems too good to be true?

And how is he going to both snuggle back up with Brussels to get money they are ransoming until he opens the borders while simultaneously claiming he's more border restrictive than Orban?

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Is it possible to conclude Orban was a corrupt Russia aligned autocrat and his ouster is on net a move in a positive direction for Hungary without believing they should be more like France, or do we just have binary choices here?

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This is a victory for the EU, which is bad for Hungary. The EU wanted Orban gone. They are one of the few countries to reject the muslim & African migrants.

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Guess we know where all those Syrians the Germans are planning on deporting will end up.

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Which means zero.

EVERYTHING is downstream from immigration.

You really think soros is sitting on the sideline, waiting to see what happens?

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The hungarians, even the new prime minister, will tell Soros to go F himself. That's who they are as a people and culture.

K2-HMFIC said:

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Why do I keep reading this guy wants to keep his borders strong, encourage families, but is basically not a Putin puppet and anti corruption?

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Thats what I originally thought, but that list of his backers is worrisome.

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Notice who here is cheering for Tisza.

They know it means another Europan country will slide into the same mess as France, Germany, Spain, Ireland, and the UK, which is the goal of the political left across the globe.

Won't be long before Hungry is overrun by Muslims and "Africans."

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100% correct!

The attacks by the EU against Orban and Hungary haven't worked until recently. Theyve now tricked enough people into forcing him out. Their goal all along was to make Hungary another socialist nation where their culture identity is gone and now hordes of Muslims will invade and take over.

Huge win for the bureaucracy in Brussels and elites in Davos. Their interference and manipulation has worked on enough Hungarians. Now, no one in the EU can stand in the way of wide open borders. You don't tow the line, you'll be ousted by the bureaucracy withholding funds and media control influence. That's how democracy works!

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Huge win for the bureaucracy in Brussels and elites in Davos. Their interference and manipulation has worked on enough Hungarians. Now, no one in the EU can stand in the way of wide open borders. You don't tow the line, you'll be ousted by the bureaucracy withholding funds and media control influence. That's how democracy works!

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As Ags with Kids said yesterday, you have to subvert Democracy in order to protect it. And you even had posters on here calling for restrictions on individual country leaders from being able to push back against Brussel's. The very definition of Democracy!

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Huge win for the bureaucracy in Brussels and elites in Davos. Their interference and manipulation has worked on enough Hungarians. Now, no one in the EU can stand in the way of wide open borders. You don't toe the line, you'll be ousted by the bureaucracy withholding funds and media control influence. That's how democracy works!

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Again, the new prime minister is just anti immigration as Orban. Maybe even more so.

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Huge win for the bureaucracy in Brussels and elites in Davos. Their interference and manipulation has worked on enough Hungarians. Now, no one in the EU can stand in the way of wide open borders. You don't toe the line, you'll be ousted by the bureaucracy withholding funds and media control influence. That's how democracy works!

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Again, the new prime minister is just anti immigration as Orban. Maybe even more so.

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But, again, let's see if it actually plays out that way. Everything I've read said that he has to abandon some of his principles here to get his EU money.

Correct, and he is promptly in 'not an inch' (of 'occupied' territory) to end the war mode.

⚡️ Ukraine to cede land 'unworthy' of Hungary's 1956 resistance, Magyar says.

"If someone says this... you should ask them what would happen if Russia attacked Hungary: which Hungarian county would they give up?" Peter Magyar said.https://t.co/50zsPB8kU5

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) April 13, 2026

$90 billion 'loan' (really just a grant/money laundering) will be approved on day 1.

ICC, Israeli relations, all will be reversed, and he's not planning to reach out to Trump (nor Putin). Remember, on 'immigration', Labour/Starmer even campaigned on scaling it back in the UK. All lies. The same will follow here.

According to Hungary’s incoming prime minister, Peter Magyar, his government will look to reverse Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s decision to withdraw from the International Criminal Court (ICC). Additionally, on the Hungary-Israel relationship, Magyar said that EU decisions on… pic.twitter.com/hSwQfEyWn7

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) April 13, 2026

Look out for the economic plan. It's going to be a doozy. Expect lot's of 'rule of law' (Norm Eisen/Soros) strengthening of 'institutions' to follow.

Bayou City said:

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Again, you guys must not follow politics that closely. The guy is not Orban but hes NOT a liberal. Hes a conservative through and through. He has a HUGE temper, he doesn't like gays, he doesn't like women in the work force and he HATES inmigrants. HATES THEM MORE THAN ORBAN.

The guy hasn't mentioned his positions because 85% of the media is controlled by Fides. He knew anything he said would be taken out of context.

The guys probably more hard line fides than Orban just less corrupt. This guy isn't john thune of Hungary. He's more like a less populistas JD Vance but still a dyed in the wool anti RUSSIA conservative. Hes not anti US hes anti Russia. Hes pro EU because he wants the money that's frozen. Once he gets that, he has no loyalty to them but hungry needs that money for their economy not to stagflate. Kudos

But the good news is there's a decade of him being part of Fides and his opinions haven't changed he just stopped broadcasting those that he knew would be taken out of context w the main stream media. Sound like someone from the US? Yup.

Also, he didn't found his political party. Hungary doesn't really have a liberal party. They have Fides they have t and they have far right. Before it was announced that he was joining T, most people thought his policies actually would out him closer to the far right BUT the far right party has ALOT of issues w the electorate and the way Hungary divides votes would have only entrenched fides even further. That's Why he joined a party. It was the only way for him to get into the W2024 euro parlamentar y elections so that's what he did. He out chessed Orban in a system Orban created to keep him in power.

You guys don't like That Orban got beat because Trump wanted him to win but you have to understand hngaro an politics before you rush to make a decisin.

Watch Over The next 6 months and Lets see how long it takes for DJT to embrace him and everyone on here to realize they're wrong.

Patience is a virtue. You'll all see.

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A politician who didn't take any over stances but was endorsed by the EU....this guy is a sleeper cell for the globalist cabal....evidence coming soon.

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Huge win for the bureaucracy in Brussels and elites in Davos. Their interference and manipulation has worked on enough Hungarians. Now, no one in the EU can stand in the way of wide open borders. You don't toe the line, you'll be ousted by the bureaucracy withholding funds and media control influence. That's how democracy works!

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Again, the new prime minister is just anti immigration as Orban. Maybe even more so.

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But, again, let's see if it actually plays out that way. Everything I've read said that he has to abandon some of his principles here to get his EU money.

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What EU money?

Where did you read it?

My analysis of Hungary's new political landscape:

This is the first time in Hungary's history when only 3 parties are represented in the Parliament and they all label themselves as 'right-wing'.

Tisza with 138 seats. The Tisza party will constitute a Supermajority. They market…

— Based Hungary 🇭🇺 (@HungaryBased) April 13, 2026

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My analysis of Hungary's new political landscape:

This is the first time in Hungary's history when only 3 parties are represented in the Parliament and they all label themselves as 'right-wing'.

Tisza with 138 seats. The Tisza party will constitute a Supermajority. They market themselves as 'right-wing', however, they are pro-EU, made up of the remnants of leftists, and are in complete servitude of the EPP in the European Union.

Going future: They will have dominance and will be united on issues the EPP from Brussels demands of them. However, this party's biggest weakness is itself. With a recession looming, and they plan to carry a system level change in the middle of it. Their unity as a party will be interesting considering the different ideologies in this party, they were largely united on the anti-Orbn and anti-Fidesz rhetoric. But now he's gone, I would say Magyar Pter's personal opinion's of illegal migration will be ignored by his party members.

Fidesz with 42 seats. Orbn's party is 'right-wing' however, is the only legacy party from the 1990s left. They are pro-Family, pro-Christianity, and Sovereignty.

Going future: This was Orbn's biggest political loss. Many will put into question the future of this party now. It has its weaknesses. Largely it is said that most people in Hungary they don't like Fidesz but found it necessary to vote for them for key ideas. Fidesz carries a generational hatred since the 90s, as they were around when privatization occurred. Many Hungarians now were born to parents from the 90s who've had bad experiences with this party.

A reform is plausible for this party coming into the future. Or they can take advantage of the weakness of the Tisza party when the storm of issues come its way.

Mi Haznk with 6 seats. Toroczkai's party is a 'right-wing', they are the reason Fidesz was making its right-wing decisions. Toroczkai was the first to call the closing of the border for illegal migration in Hungary in 2014. They are pro-Family, pro-Hungarian and Sovereignty.

Going future: I would say his party has the most to gain from this. Most people voted for Fidesz because they were a reliable party in power. Many people of Fidesz are right-wing, it will not be hard for them now to see change is required in the right.

Interesting times are ahead in Hungary's politics.

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Huge win for the bureaucracy in Brussels and elites in Davos. Their interference and manipulation has worked on enough Hungarians. Now, no one in the EU can stand in the way of wide open borders. You don't toe the line, you'll be ousted by the bureaucracy withholding funds and media control influence. That's how democracy works!

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Again, the new prime minister is just anti immigration as Orban. Maybe even more so.

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But, again, let's see if it actually plays out that way. Everything I've read said that he has to abandon some of his principles here to get his EU money.

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What EU money?

Where did you read it?

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The $500M that the EU is apparently holding up that I read about in one of these 3 Orban threads. Is that fake news? Maybe it is.

Edit: actually looks like the EU is holding up billions in Euros for a variety of disagreements with Orban.

I know i'm not going to change your minds.

We do a ton of business in Hungary and I will say the businesses are all very Very Very happy w the results. I Don't think you guys understand how corrupt orban had become.

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for graciously conceding his loss (that's how democracies are supposed to work).

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Sick burn on Hilary. Nicely done.

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hmm??? As opposed to the current Savior in Chief that claims election fraud/rigging/cheating unless he wins...

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I know i'm not going to change your minds.

We do a ton of business in Hungary and I will say the businesses are all very Very Very happy w the results. I Don't think you guys understand how corrupt orban had become.

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Very little of this thread (and board) has much to do with anything other than propaganda from both sides of the aisle. Just parroting what Soros or Murdoch distributed.

Bayou City said:

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I know i'm not going to change your minds.

We do a ton of business in Hungary and I will say the businesses are all very Very Very happy w the results. I Don't think you guys understand how corrupt orban had become.

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Ski Industry Equipment - Hungary makes ALOT of it.

Great post. Hungarians thought they were voting for less corruption. They will get Muslim "migrants" and higher energy prices. The EU was furious with Orban over his refusal to raise electric prices in line with others.

ETA: nuke plant construction will also likely be halted as well as lng supplies. I expect windmill and solar announcement fantasies.

🇭🇺 #Hungary: The new government’s policy is not entirely clear, despite the series of appropriate liberal mantras uttered by the leader of ‘Tisza’.

Péter Magyar’s entire campaign focused on him personally. It remains to be seen who will take up ministerial posts and what the… pic.twitter.com/i8ULCJbc3n

— MRLVW (@mrlvw64) April 13, 2026

🇪🇺 HUGE! Ursula DECLARES the European Union will move away from Unanimous Voting.

"We need to use the momentum of the Hungarian elections, to push for qualified majority voting!"

Smaller states have lost their voting power in the European Union! pic.twitter.com/J0n1DlxCYs

— Based Hungary 🇭🇺 (@HungaryBased) April 13, 2026

Bayou City said:

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Again, you guys must not follow politics that closely. The guy is not Orban but hes NOT a liberal. Hes a conservative through and through. He has a HUGE temper, he doesn't like gays, he doesn't like women in the work force and he HATES inmigrants. HATES THEM MORE THAN ORBAN.

The guy hasn't mentioned his positions because 85% of the media is controlled by Fides. He knew anything he said would be taken out of context.

The guys probably more hard line fides than Orban just less corrupt. This guy isn't john thune of Hungary. He's more like a less populistas JD Vance but still a dyed in the wool anti RUSSIA conservative. Hes not anti US hes anti Russia. Hes pro EU because he wants the money that's frozen. Once he gets that, he has no loyalty to them but hungry needs that money for their economy not to stagflate. Kudos

But the good news is there's a decade of him being part of Fides and his opinions haven't changed he just stopped broadcasting those that he knew would be taken out of context w the main stream media. Sound like someone from the US? Yup.

Also, he didn't found his political party. Hungary doesn't really have a liberal party. They have Fides they have t and they have far right. Before it was announced that he was joining T, most people thought his policies actually would out him closer to the far right BUT the far right party has ALOT of issues w the electorate and the way Hungary divides votes would have only entrenched fides even further. That's Why he joined a party. It was the only way for him to get into the W2024 euro parlamentar y elections so that's what he did. He out chessed Orban in a system Orban created to keep him in power.

You guys don't like That Orban got beat because Trump wanted him to win but you have to understand hngaro an politics before you rush to make a decisin.

Watch Over The next 6 months and Lets see how long it takes for DJT to embrace him and everyone on here to realize they're wrong.

Patience is a virtue. You'll all see.

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I pray you are right, Are you Hungarian?