Panda, what exactly did Orban's admin do to the Hungarian ski equipment manufacturing companies and how is a new administration that promises to play nice with whatever the overlords in Brussels want going to help the ski equipment industry in Hungary?

No idea. I just know the manufacturers and Supply chain that we deal with are happy.

After reading more the guys sounds like a really good guy who agreed with Orban personally on most important topics. He made his mark when there was * hold your breath * a pee-do scandal when Orban's guys gave some reduced sentence to a guy who was trying fight for someone else involved in the actual issue (not a member of ORban's team directly).

But there is tons of corruption at all levels. Some of them like to show off how much money they have. The economy is in bad shape and has been for 4 years.

The only issue is that Magyar is beholdened to a part with lots of center left people who moved to it in the last few years (from more liberal parties that have no chance at this time in Hungary history). The other concern is how much Magyar will cede to the EU and its corrupt practices of buying outcomes it likes.

Decent article on this stuff:

https://roddreher.substack.com/p/orban-going-but-orbanism-coming-to

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He made his mark when there was * hold your breath * a pee-do scandal when Orban's guys gave some reduced sentence to a guy who was trying fight for someone else involved in the actual issue (not a member of ORban's team directly).

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I've read this sentence 8 times and I'm still no closer to understanding it than I was the first time.

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He made his mark when there was * hold your breath * a pee-do scandal when Orban's guys gave some reduced sentence to a guy who was trying fight for someone else involved in the actual issue (not a member of ORban's team directly).

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I've read this sentence 8 times and I'm still no closer to understanding it than I was the first time.

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It is complex. Read the substack article above.

Orban was PM. He put a female in as President (no real power). That president signed a pardon for a person that was Covering for an Associate that was abusing children at a group home w deep connections to fidesz and the church and orban.

The deal had to be approved and was so under some really really shady circumstancies by the Secretary of the interior and president (only 2 women in Orvans circle - bribes, looking the other way, etc etc). At the time that was Peter magyars wife.

He found out about it and divorced her, the news broke the next year (did he leak it?) and the female President and his now ex wife resigned in humiliation (orbans only 2 women in office) and Orbans myth that he was the richeous protector of women and children CRUMBLED. It got even worse when the public found out that orban then tried to frame it as a product of only those 2 women when there were documents that showed that 100% wasn't true and they were more or less just pawns.

**** blew up BIG TIME.

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for graciously conceding his loss (that's how democracies are supposed to work).

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Sick burn on Hilary. Nicely done.

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hmm??? As opposed to the current Savior in Chief that claims election fraud/rigging/cheating unless he wins...

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As opposed to his opponent in 2016 (oh yeah...Hillary), who STILL claims he was an illegitimate POTUS from back then? Or all the Democrats that parroted that party line for the past decade?

Good article. Sums up the current state of affairs well.
As mentioned in the other Orban thread, my biggest concern is that the new Government will be too beholden to the EU.

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He has conceded to his rival. Opposition (right now) looks close to a parliamentary super majority. Congratulations to the presumptive new prime minister, and yes, to Orban for graciously conceding his loss (that's how democracies are supposed to work).

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I would never have known that's how democracies are suppose to work if you had not put in parentheses. Was that for us conservatives?

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Good article. Sums up the current state of affairs well.
As mentioned in the other Orban thread, my biggest concern is that the new Government will be too beholden to the EU.

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Just a tad.

To recap:
1. The EU Council blocked $40 billion to Hungary because it wouldn't give NGOs control over its courts.
2. The EU Court blocked Hungary from passing a FARA law to see whether NGOs there were funded by the EU.
3. The EU Council announced it would centralize voting power… https://t.co/PY4MT55G5r

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) April 14, 2026

Watch this space over the next year.

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He has conceded to his rival. Opposition (right now) looks close to a parliamentary super majority. Congratulations to the presumptive new prime minister, and yes, to Orban for graciously conceding his loss (that's how democracies are supposed to work).

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I would never have know that how democracies are suppose to work if you had not put in parentheses. Was that for us conservatives?

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Since she's a communist, I think she was putting it in there as a personal reminder for herself.

Stealing this guy's post as my current stance. Whole thing is confusing at this point. I tend to think Hungary is going to get f'ed though.

This is like the fourth different perspective I've read on the Hungary election and I don't know wtf to believe.

I think the US Dems and commies just saw Orban get defeated and didn't look any further than that. I really think they didn't do five minutes of research to…

— Plague Trucker (@ZakkOsborne) April 14, 2026

Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

Hungary will resemble Germany in 2 years and be far less than fine.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Agree with Rapier. It certainly reads like the EU was far more interfering than Russia ever was here. That substack above was enlightening.

You also have a revenge porn obsession with Russia so I have to discount your opinion on this one by a good margin.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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You also have a revenge porn obsession with Russia so I have to discount your opinion on this one by a good margin.

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And you also have a habit of handwaving away what they do and how they treat those in their sphere of influence.

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Hungary will resemble Germany in 2 years and be far less than fine.

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Because you read it on X?

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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They are all anti immigration until they aren't. Angela Merkel had the famous "multi culturalism has failed" speech in 2010. How did that work out? Answer - 1.5 million per year pouring into the country by to mid 2010's with cash vouchers and two tiered justice system. Unfortunately, this is the beginning of the end of hungarian culture as we know it.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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Correct. With EU fertility at a record low of ~1.34 and natural population decline, the elite-driven transformation is erasing Europe's historic identity and will ultimately disappear. Russia, flaws and all, at least fights to preserve its own culture and people instead of importing a replacement.

Hey guys, don't believe the substacks from journalists on Hungary's resistance to certain EU policies and EU's interference and blackmail to influence elections and force compliance. There are many more people on X who post bad things about Orban being a dictator and Russia Russia Russia that are way more important than what's best for Hungarians. You're supposed to believe them instead.

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You also have a revenge porn obsession with Russia so I have to discount your opinion on this one by a good margin.

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And you also have a habit of handwaving away what they do and how they treat those in their sphere of influence.

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I've always acknowledged Russia and Putin as a bad actor. No fan of them, but the fact here is that the EU has been the primary external interference in this election based on everything I've read. Russia looks to be mostly irrelevant to this discussion while the EU flooded Hungary with it's NGO's all the while withholding funds because Orban didn't bend the knee and give up their sovereignty to Brussels. They are obsessed with centralizing power in Brussels and removing any autonomy member countries had/have which Ursula seems to be going all-in on now that Orban is out and unable to be the bulwark.

Not very Democracy like. Kind of Russia-like, reallly.

Sounds like you know more about it than I do. I was in Budapest recently and saw these posters. Didn't have good enough internet at the time to translate it, but lots of them throughout the town;

The fact that the EU has many of the policies / incentives boxed and prepared hours after the election should be a red flag as well. In their eyes, they have lost time to make up for, and they are getting on it. They found their in , with a disgruntled Magyar and now it's time to pound the accelerator.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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They are all anti immigration until they aren't. Angela Merkel had the famous "multi culturalism has failed" speech in 2010. How did that work out? Answer - 1.5 million per year puring into the country by to mid 2010's with cash vouchers and two tiered justice system. Unfortunately, this is the beginning of the end of hungarian culture as we know it.

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Did anyone believe that Biden would completely throw open the US border? He was supposed to be a moderate but ended up the most radical leftist to ever govern the country.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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They are all anti immigration until they aren't. Angela Merkel had the famous "multi culturalism has failed" speech in 2010. How did that work out? Answer - 1.5 million per year puring into the country by to mid 2010's with cash vouchers and two tiered justice system. Unfortunately, this is the beginning of the end of hungarian culture as we know it.

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Did anyone believe that Biden would completely throw open the US border? He was supposed to be a moderate but ended up the most radical leftist to ever govern the country.

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I think the main difference here is that Orban's successor wasn't just talking about being anti-immigration. He's governed and been that way his entire career. It's who he is. And it's who most Hungarians are. There is no popular groundswell of support for immigrants in Hungary like there is in Western Europe among the populace.

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No fan of them, but the fact here is that the EU has been the primary external interference in this election based on everything I've read.

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I don't doubt that at all...

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No fan of them, but the fact here is that the EU has been the primary external interference in this election based on everything I've read.

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I don't doubt that at all...

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You are free to produce writings that show a large, concerted effort of Russian interference. I'm not disputing it there was some. The pro-Orban guy in the substack above mentioned it was there, but the EU has been all over this one.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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They are all anti immigration until they aren't. Angela Merkel had the famous "multi culturalism has failed" speech in 2010. How did that work out? Answer - 1.5 million per year puring into the country by to mid 2010's with cash vouchers and two tiered justice system. Unfortunately, this is the beginning of the end of hungarian culture as we know it.

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Did anyone believe that Biden would completely throw open the US border? He was supposed to be a moderate but ended up the most radical leftist to ever govern the country.

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You can also go back to all of the past video with Bill, Hillary, Chuck, Joe, et al proclaiming illegal immigration to be a scourge.

But now that their party has moved fully into communism and reliant on illegal voting they embrace it.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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They are all anti immigration until they aren't. Angela Merkel had the famous "multi culturalism has failed" speech in 2010. How did that work out? Answer - 1.5 million per year puring into the country by to mid 2010's with cash vouchers and two tiered justice system. Unfortunately, this is the beginning of the end of hungarian culture as we know it.

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Did anyone believe that Biden would completely throw open the US border? He was supposed to be a moderate but ended up the most radical leftist to ever govern the country.

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I think the main difference here is that Orban's successor wasn't just talking about being anti-immigration. He's governed and been that way his entire career. It's who he is. And it's who most Hungarians are. There is no popular groundswell of support for immigrants in Hungary like there is in Western Europe among the populace.

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True, so we are about to find out which way he's going to govern. He's Orban but pro-EU.

Well, the EU hated Orban. This one will be interesting to see who he serves - Brussels or his people.

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Hungary will be fine. They will be just as against muslim immigration as they were before. But now will be lest in bed with Russia and a hostile government. And Russian influence is about 50x worse than the EU could over hope to be.

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Delusional.

The EU's goal is to replace its entire native population with third world garbage. The foolish elites think it will be easier to rule over a bunch of uneducated black/brown masses. Of course, those same masses will eventually consume the elites.

Russia, for all of its flaws, still values its history and culture.

The EU is far worse.

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That's not how hungarians operate or will allow. And despite what the American right wing substacks tell you, Orban's replacement is even more anti-immigration than he was.

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They are all anti immigration until they aren't. Angela Merkel had the famous "multi culturalism has failed" speech in 2010. How did that work out? Answer - 1.5 million per year puring into the country by to mid 2010's with cash vouchers and two tiered justice system. Unfortunately, this is the beginning of the end of hungarian culture as we know it.

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Did anyone believe that Biden would completely throw open the US border? He was supposed to be a moderate but ended up the most radical leftist to ever govern the country.

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I think the main difference here is that Orban's successor wasn't just talking about being anti-immigration. He's governed and been that way his entire career. It's who he is. And it's who most Hungarians are. There is no popular groundswell of support for immigrants in Hungary like there is in Western Europe among the populace.

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True, so we are about to find out which way he's going to govern. He's Orban but pro-EU.

Well, the EU hated Orban. This one will be interesting to see who he serves - Brussels or his people.

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I don't think he's "pro EU". It's not black and white. He will use the EU to get what he wants for Hungary, and yes the EU does provide some good (although most is negative). Orban wasn't anti-EU because he was pro Hungary. He was anti EU because that's what Russian influence pushed him to do.

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I don't think he's "pro EU". It's not black and white. He will use the EU to get what he wants for Hungary, and yes the EU does provide some good (although most is negative). Orban wasn't anti-EU because he was pro Hungary. He was anti EU because that's what Russian influence pushed him to do.

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So Russian influence pushed Orban to close borders, promote Hungarian culture and strengthen Hungarian families by turning away immigrants and ***dom. Sounds like we need alot more Russian influence.

I don't think you are a ***, but your russian blinders sure make you a white knight for them.

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I don't think he's "pro EU". It's not black and white. He will use the EU to get what he wants for Hungary, and yes the EU does provide some good (although most is negative). Orban wasn't anti-EU because he was pro Hungary. He was anti EU because that's what Russian influence pushed him to do.

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So Russian influence pushed Orban to close borders, promote Hungarian culture and strengthen Hungarian families by turning away immigrants and ***dom. Sounds like we need alot more Russian influence.

I don't think you are a ***, but you're russian blinders sure make you a white knight for them.

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Ha. No kidding. If that's what Russian influence is, then flood us with it.