jeremy said:

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Sounds like you know more about it than I do. I was in Budapest recently and saw these posters. Didn't have good enough internet at the time to translate it, but lots of them throughout the town;

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Looks like Zelensky has never been a vegan.

MJ20/20 said:

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Teslag said:

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I don't think he's "pro EU". It's not black and white. He will use the EU to get what he wants for Hungary, and yes the EU does provide some good (although most is negative). Orban wasn't anti-EU because he was pro Hungary. He was anti EU because that's what Russian influence pushed him to do.

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So Russian influence pushed Orban to close borders, promote Hungarian culture and strengthen Hungarian families by turning away immigrants and ***dom. Sounds like we need alot more Russian influence.

I don't think you are a ***, but you're russian blinders sure make you a white knight for them.

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Orban also sold out a lot of what Hungarians wanted for russian influence and corruption. He could have easily been anti immigration and closed borders and conservative without cowtowing to Russian influence. That's why he lost. Hungarians don't want to to sell themselves out to anyone, be it the EU or Russia. Orban chose the latter.

Well, now they have the former. Let's see how that works out for them.

MJ20/20 said:

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Well, now they have the former. Let's see how that works out for them.

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There's no indications he's sold out to the EU. He just won his election yesterday.

We'll see. He won't be able to straddle both sides. He's either going to be Orban 2.0 or in the EU fold.

Not that it is the end all be all, but the major players in the EU are celebrating as if this is a total victory. Going so far as to claiming the victory in Hungary is the momentum needed to enact changes to further entrech their authoritarian rule. These bureaucrats don't like egg on their face and this kind of grandstanding is typically reserved for issues / policies where the outcome is not ambiguous.

Teslag said:

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MJ20/20 said:

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Teslag said:

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I don't think he's "pro EU". It's not black and white. He will use the EU to get what he wants for Hungary, and yes the EU does provide some good (although most is negative). Orban wasn't anti-EU because he was pro Hungary. He was anti EU because that's what Russian influence pushed him to do.

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So Russian influence pushed Orban to close borders, promote Hungarian culture and strengthen Hungarian families by turning away immigrants and ***dom. Sounds like we need alot more Russian influence.

I don't think you are a ***, but you're russian blinders sure make you a white knight for them.

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Orban also sold out a lot of what Hungarians wanted for russian influence and corruption. He could have easily been anti immigration and closed borders and conservative without cowtowing to Russian influence. That's why he lost. Hungarians don't want to to sell themselves out to anyone, be it the EU or Russia. Orban chose the latter.

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From people on the ground, it sounds like he lost because of the pedo pardoning scandal by two of his underlings along with general corruptness that results from a party who has been in power for 15+ years.

It just seems like you forcing Russia into this for reasons.

MJ20/20 said:

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We'll see. He won't be able to straddle both sides. He's either going to be Orban 2.0 or in the EU fold.

Not that it is the end all be all, but the major players in the EU are celebrating as if this is a total victory. Going so far as to claiming the victory in Hungary is the momentum needed to enact changes to further entrech their authoritarian rule. These bureaucrats don't like egg on their face and this kind of grandstanding is typically reserved for issues / policies where the outcome is not ambiguous.

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Again, this is very myopic. The world isn't black and white. And the "major players" are celebrating purely because of TDS.

From wikipedia on Tisza:

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Prior to Magyar, Tisza was a minor conservative party, which defined itself as being "ideology-free".Under Magyar, Tisza Party has become a centre-right political party and a member of the European People's Party Group (EPP Group). Tisza, described as "synonymous with Magyar himself", has been described variously as a "centrist anti-establishment party",conservative, "conservative-liberal", or national conservative. The party has avoided taking clear ideological positions to appeal to the widest electoral coalition possible.

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Sure, 'trust us.'

YouBet said:

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Teslag said:

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MJ20/20 said:

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Teslag said:

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I don't think he's "pro EU". It's not black and white. He will use the EU to get what he wants for Hungary, and yes the EU does provide some good (although most is negative). Orban wasn't anti-EU because he was pro Hungary. He was anti EU because that's what Russian influence pushed him to do.

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So Russian influence pushed Orban to close borders, promote Hungarian culture and strengthen Hungarian families by turning away immigrants and ***dom. Sounds like we need alot more Russian influence.

I don't think you are a ***, but you're russian blinders sure make you a white knight for them.

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Orban also sold out a lot of what Hungarians wanted for russian influence and corruption. He could have easily been anti immigration and closed borders and conservative without cowtowing to Russian influence. That's why he lost. Hungarians don't want to to sell themselves out to anyone, be it the EU or Russia. Orban chose the latter.

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From people on the ground, it sounds like he lost because of the pedo pardoning scandal by two of his underlings along with general corruptness that results from a party who has been in power for 15+ years.

It just seems like you forcing Russia into this for reasons.

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There's no need to "force" russia into this. They are apart of it just as much and more so than the EU. They also engaged in campaigns on a large scale to influence this election.

To anyone that says this isn't about Russia…

Spend 2 hours in Buda or Pest and you'll see that 98% of hungarians sleep w one eye open to the old USSR. It's part of their culture at this point.

Corruption is also kind of part of life in Hungary. Not as much as Orban let it be tolerated but more than most of the rest of the EU. When the economy was good, people let it go. Since 2022 the economy has been **** and his cronies keep getting richer. It had to break at some point. His fidesz acted line the *********gaddaufis flaunting Wealth.

The combo of overt corruption, lack of protection for women and children and the first viable alternative in 16 years and it's not a shock PM won.

People also trust PM because everything hes so far said about the inner cronism of fidesz (the circle he was part of for decades) has shown to be true. Every single one of them.

The govt made him a target and he used his past to target them back and that get them back w much much much dirtier laundry.

Fidesz tried for 2 years to descredit and black mail and box him in china style and somehow he always turned it back in their faces.

I'm shocked he didn't fall out of a building chasing a Cat.

I'm pretty sure all former soviet satellite states have corruption, but I wonder why the corruption in Ukraine, one of the most corrupt places on earth outside of west Africa, is no big deal or non-existent in the news, and we're supposed send unending billions of dollars and euros to Ukraine, while everyone is supposed to really care about corruption in Hungary and they are to be withheld from EU funds until they elect someone approved by Brussels because of corruption.

Who decides what corruption the masses are supposed to know or care about and delivers those messages to the controlled mainstream media for programming?

Probably because Hungary has been getting more corrupt recently while Ukraine has been getting less corrupt.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025/index/hun

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025/index/ukr

who funds "transparency.org" so they can produce the "transparency perceptions index"?

sounds like a tool of security / intelligence state funded NGOs so they can drive their messages to the masses.


Edit to Add:

just asked AI. 47% of their funding is from government agencies, 21% from "multilateral institutions", 22% from "foundations and trusts"

major contributors to this organization are:

Open Society Foundations
European Commission


...so George Soros and the EU want people to be weary of Hungary's corruption but not worry about Ukraine's.

Do you have a ranking that you would like us to use instead?

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I'm pretty sure all former soviet satellite states have corruption, but I wonder why the corruption in Ukraine, one of the most corrupt places on earth outside of west Africa, is no big deal or non-existent in the news, and we're supposed send unending billions of dollars and euros to Ukraine, while everyone is supposed to really care about corruption in Hungary and they are to be withheld from EU funds until they elect someone approved by Brussels because of corruption.

Who decides what corruption the masses are supposed to know or care about and delivers those messages to the controlled mainstream media for programming?

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This is why the 'rule of law' globalists focus on court reform, first and foremost. Once the courts are controlled, the legislature and presidents etc. are easy to bring into line. Their version of foreign agent registration act was blocked by the EU, allowing tens of thousands of foreign NGO's to play heavily in the election for a quite deliberate, important reason.

▪️ The European Commission also expects speedy negotiations with Hungary on the dispute over immigration legislation, for which Hungary is already paying a fine of 1 million euros per day.
▪️ According to the Hungarian constitution, the country's president has 30 days to install pic.twitter.com/gGh2me9x7E

— Malcolm X (@malcolmx653459) April 14, 2026

The EU has already given Magyar 27 conditions he has to accept. More will follow, to establish the 'rule of law' in Hungary. He will comply with all of them.

Donor page for the Obama Foundation here where these numbers are crunched from. Notable that Open Society Foundation, which is active on the ground in Hungary & Poland, is listed as giving the Obama Foundation between $10 - $25 million toohttps://t.co/HhmmSDE2uE

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) April 14, 2026

'Muh, but VP Vance endorsed the other guy, and interfered'

Hungary forced to pay 1 million euros a day to keep muslim and African trash out is tyranny by the EU. I wish the EU would completely collapse and we could see these people take their countries back.

And then lawfare to keep the sovereignists from even being able to run again.

Hungary Election Winner Magyar Vows Constitutional Amendment to Ban Orbán From Running Againhttps://t.co/dpuAy2UR0j

— Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) April 14, 2026

The real goal is not just the man, of course (let alone 'corruption'), but the opposition party/group period, as the Germans similarly are working to do with AfD, and of course Poland, and Romania.

But wait, we were told by liberals on this board that this guy is a "true conservative" with values like Reagan. We were told to ignore the fact that the leftist globalists are celebrating.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Hungary forced to pay 1 million euros a day to keep muslim and African trash out is tyranny by the EU. I wish the EU would completely collapse and we could see these people take their countries back.

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Completely with you on that. I remember the Common Market. That made some sense as a trading block.

But the EU is an unelected tyranny of the entirety of Europe now. Waaaay more harm than good for member states.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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But wait, we were told by liberals on this board that this guy is a "true conservative" with values like Reagan. We were told to ignore the fact that the leftist globalists are celebrating.

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1. Always read a Nortex link.

2. If you had you'd see that they aren't amending thr constitution to ban Orban from running again. They are amending the constitution to impose term limits on officials, including prime minister and it would be retroactive.

3. Term limits for government officials is something many American conservatives have clamored for to avoid bloated federal government

4. Don't fall for Breitbart clickbait with a misleading headline

Teslag said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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But wait, we were told by liberals on this board that this guy is a "true conservative" with values like Reagan. We were told to ignore the fact that the leftist globalists are celebrating.

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1. Always read a Nortex link.

2. If you had you'd see that they aren't amending thr constitution to ban Orban from running again. They are amending the constitution to impose term limits on officials, including prime minister and it would be retroactive.

3. Term limits for government officials is something many American conservatives have clamored for to avoid bloated federal government

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Term limits are great, but I just can't get over that every leftist globalist is celebrating this victory for that guy, who is supposedly a conservative. There is a reason for that.

I'd advise to read your links/sources as well, if you had any. That pesky 'rule of law', judges, EU compliance, and going after Orban himself as well as officials who don't toe the new party line are...par for the course for the globalists (which, spoiler, he is). Left-wing Guardian source:

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Alongside other reforms aimed at unlocking the 17bn in EU funds, he said Hungary would join the European public prosecutor's office, giving EU investigators powers to probe fraud cases and examine how the bloc's money was used under Orbn's rule.

The new government would "fundamentally … do everything to restore the rule of law, plural democracy, and the system of checks and balances", Magyar said, but insisted it would "not use anti-democratic measures to restore the rule of law".

It would, however, "amend the constitution, and write into it that in future anyone can only serve as prime minister for two terms which is eight years", he said. Applied retroactively, this would bar Orbn from running again.

Magyar also said one of the new government's first steps would be to "stop state-funded propaganda" by suspending news broadcasts from "state-captured" public TV and radio until unbiased coverage could be ensured by a new supervisory board.

Describing them as "puppets" of the former regime, Magyar called on the heads of the country's two highest courts, audit office and competition and media authorities, as well as the chief prosecutor and Hungary's president, to resign.

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'Rule of law' is a cornerstone of USAID-Eisen censorship and control. The words are not mere accidents in Hungary, nor that Kallas boasted of them today.

Norm Eisen "personally trained prosecutors and judges" in USAID / State Dept Rule of Law programs before quarterbacking the domestic color revolution network against Trump when he won in 2016 https://t.co/bP2Rvq4EgZ

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) December 27, 2025

Magyar didn't campaign on 'rule of law' or banning Orban from running again some day. He's just a surprising 'yes man' to Brussels since winning.

Dude. Give It a rest. We all get it. Trust me. I'm exhausted and I disagree with you 100% but your posts are everywhere and exhausting to even try to retort.

Great Job. You win the internet today. You can pick up your prize at the end of the hall.

And he definetly fan on rule of law. Guess you werent i n Hungary at any point in the last 2 years.

Arm chair conservstive teaching us all that resistance is futile.

You must have a phd in hungarian politics. I'm impressed. Rolling my eyes….

Bayou City said:

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And he definetly fan on rule of law. Guess you werent i n Hungary at any point in the last 2 years.

Arm chair conservstive teaching us all that resistance is futile.

You must have a phd in hungarian politics. I'm impressed. Rolling my eyes….

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I bet the Hungarians will regret this election once the Ahkmeds and Muhammads start showing up. The EU is ***t and should die a violent death.

Stfu bayou city. Nortex adds a ton of context in addition to content in his posts. All you do is ***** because the pill is to tough to swallow.

nortex97 said:

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I'd advise to read your links/sources as well, if you had any. That pesky 'rule of law', judges, EU compliance, and going after Orban himself as well as officials who don't toe the new party line are...par for the course for the globalists (which, spoiler, he is). Left-wing Guardian source:

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Alongside other reforms aimed at unlocking the 17bn in EU funds, he said Hungary would join the European public prosecutor's office, giving EU investigators powers to probe fraud cases and examine how the bloc's money was used under Orbn's rule.

The new government would "fundamentally … do everything to restore the rule of law, plural democracy, and the system of checks and balances", Magyar said, but insisted it would "not use anti-democratic measures to restore the rule of law".

It would, however, "amend the constitution, and write into it that in future anyone can only serve as prime minister for two terms which is eight years", he said. Applied retroactively, this would bar Orbn from running again.

Magyar also said one of the new government's first steps would be to "stop state-funded propaganda" by suspending news broadcasts from "state-captured" public TV and radio until unbiased coverage could be ensured by a new supervisory board.

Describing them as "puppets" of the former regime, Magyar called on the heads of the country's two highest courts, audit office and competition and media authorities, as well as the chief prosecutor and Hungary's president, to resign.

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'Rule of law' is a cornerstone of USAID-Eisen censorship and control. The words are not mere accidents in Hungary, nor that Kallas boasted of them today.

Norm Eisen "personally trained prosecutors and judges" in USAID / State Dept Rule of Law programs before quarterbacking the domestic color revolution network against Trump when he won in 2016 https://t.co/bP2Rvq4EgZ

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) December 27, 2025

Magyar didn't campaign on 'rule of law' or banning Orban from running again some day. He's just a surprising 'yes man' to Brussels since winning.

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That's a lot of words to just not address nor acknowledge Breitbart's purposely misleading headline and that it was in fact term limits and not a law directed at Orban.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Bayou City said:

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And he definetly fan on rule of law. Guess you werent i n Hungary at any point in the last 2 years.

Arm chair conservstive teaching us all that resistance is futile.

You must have a phd in hungarian politics. I'm impressed. Rolling my eyes….

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I bet the Hungarians will regret this election once the Ahkmeds and Muhammads start showing up. The EU is ***t and should die a violent death.

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Again, Orban's successor is more anti immigration than Orban was.

I'm done discussing whatever it is you expect me to argue with you about, yet again. Feel free to stop following/replying to me. Believe whatever you want.

nortex97 said:

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I'm done discussing whatever it is you expect me to argue with you about, yet again. Feel free to stop following/replying to me. Believe whatever you want.

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I don't have to believe anything. I literally read the article you posted. Where it said it was term limits for all government officials and not a "ban" on Orban running again.

Why didn't you just read it yourself and clarify that without me having to?

Teslag said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Bayou City said:

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And he definetly fan on rule of law. Guess you werent i n Hungary at any point in the last 2 years.

Arm chair conservstive teaching us all that resistance is futile.

You must have a phd in hungarian politics. I'm impressed. Rolling my eyes….

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I bet the Hungarians will regret this election once the Ahkmeds and Muhammads start showing up. The EU is ***t and should die a violent death.

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Again, Orban's successor is more anti immigration than Orban was.

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Do you really believe that? Why are leftist globalists celebrating his victory? For God's sake, I agree with you on most stuff, but you are so ate up with Russia and Putan. Russia is a weak ass country that can't touch us. The cold war ended years ago.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Teslag said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Bayou City said:

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And he definetly fan on rule of law. Guess you werent i n Hungary at any point in the last 2 years.

Arm chair conservstive teaching us all that resistance is futile.

You must have a phd in hungarian politics. I'm impressed. Rolling my eyes….

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I bet the Hungarians will regret this election once the Ahkmeds and Muhammads start showing up. The EU is ***t and should die a violent death.

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Again, Orban's successor is more anti immigration than Orban was.

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Do you really believe that? Why are leftist globalists celebrating his victory? For God's sake, I agree with you on most stuff, but you are so ate up with Russia and Putan. Russia is a weak ass country that can't touch us. The cold war ended years ago.

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I believe it because it's true and that's his history.

The only reason leftist globalists are happy is because of TDS. It's that simple.

Magyar's marching orders are out. Direct from the source. Restore, Realign and Reform. Doesn't sound like sweep away corruption and go about your business as advertised.

I just spoke again with Prime Minister-elect @magyarpeterMP.

Hungary has returned to the very heart of Europe, where it has always belonged.

This is, above all, a moment for the Hungarian people. For their voice, their dignity, and their future in a safe, prosperous Hungary…

— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) April 14, 2026

I would expect that down the road, 5/10 years. Orban's "corruption " was standing up to the EU.

Just as many of us have said, Hungary expect to remain hardline against immigration

https://amp.dw.com/en/hungarys-magyar-outlines-policy-in-first-news-conference/a-76766682

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Magyar said that every member state had to be treated the same, and that he would need stronger guarantees on the rights of ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine in order to fully support its bid.

Like Orban, Magyar has taken a hardline against immigration. According to Peter Kreko, he has "emphasized that he would like even less immigration to Hungary than the previous government."

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