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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Definitely not a one size fits all. It works for large structures with land enough for a tank whether it be a large house or a business. You can't going to install it on small houses in established neighborhoods with little room. It's about finding ways to utilize water that would otherwise run off though for certain houses and businesses and take strain off the system. Otherwise it just runs off and since you are near the Gulf it just goes there.

You also can have different levels of filtration for that water depending on need similar to how golf courses often use reclaimed water that isn't potable to water the grass.

It's not a panacea and it won't work for everything but it seems like a low hanging fruit idea that could help.

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It always happens. Always.

I used to think Corpus was the most corrupt city in Texas, but my wife is from the RGV and those cities say, "Hey Korpitos! Hold my cerveza!"

I promise you it's happening. Just follow the money.

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No doubt, but corruption and ineptness don't always go hand in hand. Corpus has to be one of the most inept cities, and by that I mean a true city, I have ever seen. For all the corruption and "compadre" politics the transformation of the RGV, especially when compared to Korpitos, of the last 25 years has been incredible. In the 80's Corpus was civilization to us, now it is blighty and decaying.

The RGV and Northeastern Mexico's water problems are gonna make Corpus's issue look like a social club disagreement at some point.

schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Even here your assuming a population that is eager to utilize this and reduce some of their dependence. Corpus... You're talking about a significant population that knows governments primary function is to care for them from cradle to grave, up to and including wiping their ___ for them, for "free"

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txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Even here your assuming a population that is eager to utilize this and reduce some of their dependence. Corpus... You're talking about a significant population that knows governments primary function is to care for them from cradle to grave, up to and including wiping their ___ for them, for "free"

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True. I'm also the guy who is just flabbergasted at the fools who have their sprinkler system running the morning after getting an inch of rain the night before.

It's all small percentages, but just shows the lack of thought for doing little things that you yourself control. It's one button, you turn it off or to manual.

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txags92 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Even here your assuming a population that is eager to utilize this and reduce some of their dependence. Corpus... You're talking about a significant population that knows governments primary function is to care for them from cradle to grave, up to and including wiping their ___ for them, for "free"

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I didn't say it would be easy to convince people. Just that is the best way to do it if you want to collect rainwater on a large scale.

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Diverting water from East Texas.

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How about no.

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So we shouldn't explore ideas to take water where it either floods or gets deposited into the Gulf and moving them to areas that could use that water? Most of the East Texas watersheds, esp towards the coast, run 90% plus capacity much of the time and refill quickly. I think it is a less viable option than other ideas but worth exploring.

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Don't live where there isn't water or learn to manage better.

Tell that to all of southern california.

Update:
Lake Corpus 18.6% (8.7% 1 mo ago)
Choke Canyon 7.9% (7.3% 1 mo ago)
Texana 99.2% (64.7% 1 mo ago)

Texana being full is great and some slow progress on Corpus, Choke Canyon still barely changed.

Still a time bomb but this puts some time back on the clock.

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Update:
Lake Corpus 18.6% (8.7% 1 mo ago)
Choke Canyon 7.9% (7.3% 1 mo ago)
Texana 99.2% (64.7% 1 mo ago)

Texana being full is great and some slow progress on Corpus, Choke Canyon still barely changed.

Still a time bomb but this puts some time back on the clock.

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Probably a year, assuming no additional inflows. But there will probably be inflows this winter

Still a lot of water coming down the Nueces, and L.Corpus will probably top out >20%

txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Great way to make houses even more unaffordable

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YouBet said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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I would count Conroe doing CoH paid for half of it

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Sure, but that's not really my point, other than Houston has far fewer lakes than DFW

There are lakes all over DFW. Why would they need to pull water from East Texas?

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Because, shockingly, DFW was actually planning ahead for growth and local lakes weren't enough. There are 8M+ people there now and zero natural barriers to growth going any direction because they are sitting in the middle of the plains. They keep growing like they are and they will need all of it.

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The Texas lege mandated all metro areas develop a long term water plan about 20 years ago. It's why San Antonio has the Vista Ridge pipeline that pumps water from near Caldwell all the way to the SAWS system. It's why the City of Houston constructed the Caper's Ridge pump station and pipeline that pumps water from the Trinity to Luce's Bayou/Lake Houston and spent $2B on a new water purification plant and distribution system for the entire north and west side of Houston and Harris County. Its why Corpus already has the Mary Rhode's pipeline from Texana and is looking to develop more water sources.

DFW and Houston have more access to water and it's easier for them to get it versus say San Antonio or Corpus. It takes longer by default for places like that to develop plans tht pass muster and then get those plans approved by voters and funded. Both of the last two of which are damn difficult to do when you have folks like those running Corpus in charge that just seem to step on their dicks every chance they get.

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Actually, it was nearly 30 years ago. Senate Bill 1 in 1997 created the regional water planning process and mandated plans looking 50 years into the future. The TWDB just adopted the 2026 Regional Water Plans for the 16 water planning regions in January, and they form the basis for the 2027 State Water Plan. Public comment on the Draft 2027 State Water Plan closes tomorrow.

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Damn, didn't realize it was 30 years. 30 years ago to me was 1980 in my mind....

schmellba99 said:

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txags92 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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YouBet said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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I would count Conroe doing CoH paid for half of it

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Sure, but that's not really my point, other than Houston has far fewer lakes than DFW

There are lakes all over DFW. Why would they need to pull water from East Texas?

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Because, shockingly, DFW was actually planning ahead for growth and local lakes weren't enough. There are 8M+ people there now and zero natural barriers to growth going any direction because they are sitting in the middle of the plains. They keep growing like they are and they will need all of it.

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The Texas lege mandated all metro areas develop a long term water plan about 20 years ago. It's why San Antonio has the Vista Ridge pipeline that pumps water from near Caldwell all the way to the SAWS system. It's why the City of Houston constructed the Caper's Ridge pump station and pipeline that pumps water from the Trinity to Luce's Bayou/Lake Houston and spent $2B on a new water purification plant and distribution system for the entire north and west side of Houston and Harris County. Its why Corpus already has the Mary Rhode's pipeline from Texana and is looking to develop more water sources.

DFW and Houston have more access to water and it's easier for them to get it versus say San Antonio or Corpus. It takes longer by default for places like that to develop plans tht pass muster and then get those plans approved by voters and funded. Both of the last two of which are damn difficult to do when you have folks like those running Corpus in charge that just seem to step on their dicks every chance they get.

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Actually, it was nearly 30 years ago. Senate Bill 1 in 1997 created the regional water planning process and mandated plans looking 50 years into the future. The TWDB just adopted the 2026 Regional Water Plans for the 16 water planning regions in January, and they form the basis for the 2027 State Water Plan. Public comment on the Draft 2027 State Water Plan closes tomorrow.

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Damn, didn't realize it was 30 years. 30 years ago to me was 1980 in my mind....

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Somebody on the astros thread was talking about being 35 in 2005 and I was about to start ragging on them about how old they were. Until I realized that I was 35 in 2005 too. Hearing grunge rock on the "classic rock" stations still unsettles me too.

schmellba99 said:

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txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Great way to make houses even more unaffordable

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If it offsets the water cost to still be able to irrigate a lawn or garden, it may be worth it to some people. But yeah, it is not a cost-free exercise and would be best if subsidized by the development groups to encourage lower water use.

schmellba99 said:

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txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Great way to make houses even more unaffordable

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They don't make sense for small/starter homes. They make a lot of sense for larger homes with room for a tank or for businesses.

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aggie93 said:

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Update:
Lake Corpus 18.6% (8.7% 1 mo ago)
Choke Canyon 7.9% (7.3% 1 mo ago)
Texana 99.2% (64.7% 1 mo ago)

Texana being full is great and some slow progress on Corpus, Choke Canyon still barely changed.

Still a time bomb but this puts some time back on the clock.

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Probably a year, assuming no additional inflows. But there will probably be inflows this winter

Still a lot of water coming down the Nueces, and L.Corpus will probably top out >20%

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More rain expected in the 10 Day, hopefully hit hits the right spots.

Up to 22%

Up 6 feet since mid April

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Up to 22%

Up 6 feet since mid April

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highest level in over a year

https://www.waterdatafortexas.org/reservoirs/individual/corpus-christi

BTW, you're welcome if you live in Corpus. We move away and just a few days later it pours and Corpus gets several months reprieve.

YouBet said:

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BTW, you're welcome if you live in Corpus. We move away and just a few days later it pours and Corpus gets several months reprieve.

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The Chicken Ranch said:

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It always happens. Always.

I used to think Corpus was the most corrupt city in Texas, but my wife is from the RGV and those cities say, "Hey Korpitos! Hold my cerveza!"

I promise you it's happening. Just follow the money.

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No doubt, but corruption and ineptness don't always go hand in hand. Corpus has to be one of the most inept cities, and by that I mean a true city, I have ever seen. For all the corruption and "compadre" politics the transformation of the RGV, especially when compared to Korpitos, of the last 25 years has been incredible. In the 80's Corpus was civilization to us, now it is blighty and decaying.

The RGV and Northeastern Mexico's water problems are gonna make Corpus's issue look like a social club disagreement at some point.

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Sounds like the Mexicans are running Corpus like they run Mexico. One would think they could look at Mexico and see what does not work. I can understand Texas state officials throwing up their hands.

You may be on to something.

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schmellba99 said:

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txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Great way to make houses even more unaffordable

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They don't make sense for small/starter homes. They make a lot of sense for larger homes with room for a tank or for businesses.

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I'm not sure how many people understand the cost of building a subsurface tank that is designed to resist external water and soil pressure, be structurally sufficient to support a building above and not float.

I'll give you a hint - it isn't cheap by any measure.

schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Great way to make houses even more unaffordable

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They don't make sense for small/starter homes. They make a lot of sense for larger homes with room for a tank or for businesses.

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I'm not sure how many people understand the cost of building a subsurface tank that is designed to resist external water and soil pressure, be structurally sufficient to support a building above and not float.

I'll give you a hint - it isn't cheap by any measure.

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They do it on smaller islands in the Caribbean all the time. Mostly by making a sealed masonry block walled basement. Yes, it isn't cheap, but when your only other option is desal/RO with limited and expensive electricity, it becomes worth it to spend to collect rainwater in larger quantities.

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aggie93 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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txags92 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Quick update:

Lake Corpus up to 17%, Texana at 93% and rising fast, Choke Canyon only up to 7.6% though.

Still haven't heard any argument as to why we aren't doing everything we can to get houses and businesses to use rainwater catchment systems. They get 30 inches of rain per year in Corpus on average that's a boatload of water that could be stored and take strain off the system. Instead they are pushing rainwater barrels that do almost nothing except virtue signal.

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Tell me, where would you install these catchment systems in established neighborhoods or business districts?

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Just a 5000 gallon tank is approximately 7X10. I'm all for catchment, but you have to plan for these, not something that gets dropped in the ground and forgot about. I'm also a rain barrel guy, but I use dunks so Hardwood doesn't get mad at me.

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Best place to install them is as part of new construction. Put a tank under the slab of the house with a manhole along the outside edge for access. Connect it to a RO system in the garage.

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Great way to make houses even more unaffordable

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They don't make sense for small/starter homes. They make a lot of sense for larger homes with room for a tank or for businesses.

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I'm not sure how many people understand the cost of building a subsurface tank that is designed to resist external water and soil pressure, be structurally sufficient to support a building above and not float.

I'll give you a hint - it isn't cheap by any measure.

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Building a deep well isn't cheap either and it will run dry with lower quality water. Once again it's not for everyone but it is definitely a good option for some. If you have a house with a large roof and plenty of land it's worth looking into. This is also an area where the state could put some money into making them more affordable and by looking at regulations on them. There is no panacea but it's a viable solution for a lot of situations.

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RGV AG said:

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The Chicken Ranch said:

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It always happens. Always.

I used to think Corpus was the most corrupt city in Texas, but my wife is from the RGV and those cities say, "Hey Korpitos! Hold my cerveza!"

I promise you it's happening. Just follow the money.

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No doubt, but corruption and ineptness don't always go hand in hand. Corpus has to be one of the most inept cities, and by that I mean a true city, I have ever seen. For all the corruption and "compadre" politics the transformation of the RGV, especially when compared to Korpitos, of the last 25 years has been incredible. In the 80's Corpus was civilization to us, now it is blighty and decaying.

The RGV and Northeastern Mexico's water problems are gonna make Corpus's issue look like a social club disagreement at some point.

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Sounds like the Mexicans are running Corpus like they run Mexico. One would think they could look at Mexico and see what does not work. I can understand Texas state officials throwing up their hands.

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I was just down in McAllen/Edinburg for the first time in my life.

I live in Corpus.

I have a lot of agreement with you...

More rain coming / predicted to that area this week… lakes will continue to fill up.

https://www.kristv.com/news/local-news/in-your-neighborhood/corpus-christi/corpus-christi-faces-historic-day-with-desal-vote-mayor-removal-hearing-and-water-restrictions

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If council votes no, the city remains on the hook for $235 million in state loans designated specifically for the Inner Harbor desalination project. That is the money Texas Gov. Greg Abbott referenced in March.

"They squandered it. Then they changed their plan, then they were indecisive about what to do," Abbott said.

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So much for hearsay about local politicians diverting state money for desalination to pet projects. No…there is no corruption here….

That sounds like a fun meeting. Not

Maybe the State needs to do to corpus what they did to HISD.

The city should be a political subdivision of the state. If you're created by the legislature... You can be uncreated as well.

You may be onto something.

Is this gauge reading at Tilden accurate? If so there is still a wall of water coming down

https://water.noaa.gov/gauges/TILT2

https://www.kristv.com/running-dry/corpus-christi-city-council-tables-inner-harbor-desalination-vote-until-september-after-15-hour-meeting

Gil Hernandez has got to be the dumbest council member ever to serve Korpitos. It rained, so, "Mañana…mañana…mañana…". Delayed until September 1 now. F-ing unreal!

Where is Hardwood to defend this clown? Hernandez keeps hanging his hat on groundwater. That isn't his water! It's belongs to the landowners on the entire Gulf Coast! What is he going to do when his wells in Nueces County drain the entire Evangeline Aquifer? Let's follow his money…."there's no corruption here…nothing to see…"

Desal is the answer yesterday, today, and tomorrow.