2020 Sully protests (am i misremembering)

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hunter2012 said:

I thought on the video it was blaggie, I won't correct an eye witness. Either way it was a cringe moment for the old man.


I thought blaggie had an alternative meaning from 30/40+ years ago that doesn't translate in today's world. Nothing to do with being black. Does anyone recall that?
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coupland boy said:

Buck Turgidson said:

I woulda kicked every one of those punks off the team, but Jimbo "didn't do character" by his own admission. Sickens me what we put up with just to field a mediocre football team. I'd rather have a losing record than put up with scumbags like that.


Well, really though, you want a football program or not? I understand what you're saying but I'm also not being 100% facetious about that either.

I know I'm in the minority, but things I care about:
#1. Acting with integrity
#2. Preserving the character and image of A&M










#2004. Having a winning football program

I've gotten by all these decades without one, why on earth would I sell my soul for one now?
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jpb1999 said:

hunter2012 said:

I thought on the video it was blaggie, I won't correct an eye witness. Either way it was a cringe moment for the old man.


I thought blaggie had an alternative meaning from 30/40+ years ago that doesn't translate in today's world. Nothing to do with being black. Does anyone recall that?

When that old dude said it was the first time I'd ever heard it.

But... Urban Dictionary does have a definition back from 2008.
http://blaggie.urbanup.com/3523981
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A term used to describe someone of Western European descent (aka white) obsessed with the race of African Americans to the point of believing them self to be of the African race.

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No, but the removal of the statue was surprising given his family lineage.

His family history lineage is amazing. Talking big time Texas history. Really cool

I believe it was someone from texas A&M Kingsville who knew of texas history or taught texas history. It wasn't just some rando.
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Nevermind answered above
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bobbranco said:

OldArmy71 said:

Progressives use this argument against white people, whom they treat as guilty by association with white forefathers who held slaves or were segregationists.

Progressives often frame "Whiteness" as an innate evil that all white people are born with.

So someone might argue that since Mond (according to the research presented, whose truth I certainly cannot prove) is part white, he shares in the inherited evil that is Whiteness.



I believe Mond's heritage was capturing runaways, and slave sales in S. Texas and Mexico.


This is false.

Mond's ancestors on his mother's side were Mexican. His great-great uncle on his mother's side was the highest ranking Mexican-American in the Confederate Army. They did not own slaves, nor were they slave catchers. He was offered a commission in both the Union and Confederate Army, and chose the Confederates because they were located closer to him, and would be more concerned with his needs in the region.
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I'm amused that the end game result of all the protests and stupid **** was Trump getting reeelected, younger generation becoming more right wing and outright not ashamed to notice trends.

Being a liberal professor for Gen Z has to be miserable. They simply don't put up with the brain washing my millennials did.
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So many racists showed their colors during that period of time. I still recall Bobby Brown (Aggie player at the time) loving a tweet about a random white guy getting beaten and Bobby saying it would have been worse had he been the assailant. Just an insane period of time.
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I remember the athletic dept sent some stooge to go collect Tucker from making a further jackass out of himself.

That wasn't a good look for the school but it's largely been forgotten of course.
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But hey, at least we now have an offsetting statue of Matthew Gaines, a black man with almost zero connection to A&M
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CanyonAg77 said:

But hey, at least we now have an offsetting statue of Matthew Gaines, a black man with almost zero connection to A&M

You mean absolutely no connection. And the statue is built from a picture that they aren't even sure was Gaines.
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Well he was one of 21 state senators who voted to accept Morill Act funding which lead to A&M being founded. So it's not zero.

It ain't much above zero, though
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jpb1999 said:

hunter2012 said:

I thought on the video it was blaggie, I won't correct an eye witness. Either way it was a cringe moment for the old man.


I thought blaggie had an alternative meaning from 30/40+ years ago that doesn't translate in today's world. Nothing to do with being black. Does anyone recall that?



I'm Class of '89 which would have put me on campus in that time frame. We still used Waggie to describe women in the Corps, and that was officially frowned upon. I never once heard the word Blaggie until people started recounting what was said at that protest in 2020
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Nope

BLAGGIES

Never used.

EVER.

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Mega Lops said:

I remember the athletic dept sent some stooge to go collect Tucker from making a further jackass out of himself.

That wasn't a good look for the school but it's largely been forgotten of course.


After things had quieted down somewhat by the end of 2020, I got a call from 12th Man Foundation about renewing my donation. I don't buy season tickets anymore and really only donate a small amount just to keep up priority points. The sweet and clueless girl that called me was given this message from me. My donations help pay for the scholarships those people got and the salaries of the coaches and staff. I thought that event was highly embarrassing, not indicative about how I expect Aggie student athletes to represent our university, and completely mishandled by the athletic department. They will be getting a donation from me for 2020, but I want my message forwarded up to the Athletic Director. Yes, sir.



I have no idea if they cared, but I was pretty pissed off that year. And when I think back on it it still pisses me off. Jimbo was such a spineless little btch
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It was fortunate that 2020 FB season was the Covid season. I had no desire to watch a lot of those kids play.
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TChaney said:










Nope

BLAGGIES

Never used.

EVER.




Roland, the super blaggie, explodes the narrative.
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Meh.

Saban marched with his players, and Stoops and OU tried to play up his blm bull*****

Ainias put Mond in his place and caused Ausbon to quit the team, so it all worked out, imo. I don't expect our players to all share my political beliefs.
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Backyard Gator said:

bobbranco said:

OldArmy71 said:

Progressives use this argument against white people, whom they treat as guilty by association with white forefathers who held slaves or were segregationists.

Progressives often frame "Whiteness" as an innate evil that all white people are born with.

So someone might argue that since Mond (according to the research presented, whose truth I certainly cannot prove) is part white, he shares in the inherited evil that is Whiteness.



I believe Mond's heritage was capturing runaways, and slave sales in S. Texas and Mexico.


This is false.

Mond's ancestors on his mother's side were Mexican. His great-great uncle on his mother's side was the highest ranking Mexican-American in the Confederate Army. They did not own slaves, nor were they slave catchers. He was offered a commission in both the Union and Confederate Army, and chose the Confederates because they were located closer to him, and would be more concerned with his needs in the region.

This sounds an awful lot like Sully's history with the confederate army.
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Got a Natty! said:


I was standing next to the old Ag who said that. But the word was not "blaggie" it was blackie. And I cringed when he said it and braced for some physical contact. The protester was a track athlete, a hurdler. He pushed his way through me and that old Ag.


I was also physically there, and heard the word "Blaggie". But, it was noisy. It's possible that we both heard what we wanted to / were predisposed to hear due to the tension of the event.
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Buck Turgidson said:

I woulda kicked every one of those punks off the team, but Jimbo "didn't do character" by his own admission. Sickens me what we put up with just to field a mediocre football team. I'd rather have a losing record than put up with scumbags like that.

I'm always a supporter of our football team, but when I saw members of our football team threatening former students and the Corps, we had no football team that year. I was so glad to finally be rid of Mond after that.
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Good find in the Roland Martin tweet archives.
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coupland boy said:

Buck Turgidson said:

I woulda kicked every one of those punks off the team, but Jimbo "didn't do character" by his own admission. Sickens me what we put up with just to field a mediocre football team. I'd rather have a losing record than put up with scumbags like that.


Well, really though, you want a football program or not? I understand what you're saying but I'm also not being 100% facetious about that either.

You have to set expectations.

Former Students & The Corps >>> Aggie Football Team
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The principal reason given by Mond and the athlete protestors was that Sully's Confederate history invalidated everything good he accomplished for A&M and the state of Texas. That's why the history of Mond's family ties to the Confederacy became relevant to the debate.
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Maybe we can get some sweet campus photos from Mr. Mond.
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Can we get a "where are they now?" Update on these fine individuals who got a free ride to attend Texas A&M?
Where's Jhamon Ausbon these days?
How about Finite Trucker?
I don't need one for Mond. I couldn't care less what that jackass is doing.
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G Martin 87 said:

The principal reason given by Mond and the athlete protestors was that Sully's Confederate history invalidated everything good he accomplished for A&M and the state of Texas. That's why the history of Mond's family ties to the Confederacy became relevant to the debate.

I get that.

It's just funny that any equivocating of Mond's family about not being "all that confederate" exonerates Sully 3x, since Sully was such an outspoken advocate for the rights and safety of Black Texans after the civil war.
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Mond was a disgrace that day as a "team leader," standing there smiling and choosing not to intervene as the idiot player ripped off his shirt and tried to start something with the old Ag.
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TX_COWDOC said:


I don't need one for Mond. I couldn't care less what that jackass is doing.


fyi

I looked it up. Instagram.

He's a photography artist.
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Got a Natty! said:

It was fortunate that 2020 FB season was the Covid season. I had no desire to watch a lot of those kids play.



Same here. I was so disgusted I think I watch about one game the whole season.
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zephyr88 said:

I just remember the athletes that showed up to the fake outrage.

and that they showed up on University Owned golf carts.

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I remember a clip showing a football team member saying to an old Ag, "I'm gonna cut you bro." That, plus the other antics going on with them climbing on Sully to plant their flag and our little professor helping to run the show ended my contributions to any fund that might go to the athletic department. I switched all my donating to the CCA..
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CanyonAg77 said:

Well he was one of 21 state senators who voted to accept Morill Act funding which lead to A&M being founded. So it's not zero.

It ain't much above zero, though

No mention here of A&M or the Morrill Act at all. And although the statue looks like his picture here, you will notice there is a question mark in parentheses on the back next to his name. They aren't even sure if this is him, but they based the statue on campus on this photo.

https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/gaines-matthew

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TX_COWDOC said:

Can we get a "where are they now?" Update on these fine individuals who got a free ride to attend Texas A&M?
Where's Jhamon Ausbon these days?
How about Finite Trucker?
I don't need one for Mond. I couldn't care less what that jackass is doing.


Jhamon Ausbon does landscaping in Houston.
 
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