When my daughter was very young, I would take her into the men's room to let her do her business. It never crossed my mind to walk her into the ladies' room. Thankfully I only had to deal with this a handful of times, and we never had any issues.

I think Man B is a jackass. I liken his firing to the firing of the Chick-Fil-A filmer from a few years ago. If you embarrass your employer, you probably should expect to be fired.

There have been a couple of times when I wasn't paying attention to where I was going and walked into the ladies' room. One in Sterling C. Evans library, where I walked through the door and was looking at this smoking hot Aggie ... she was about to say something when I blurted out an "ooops, wrong door!" and got the heck out of there.

Then this one incident at a job that I had several years ago. I'm standing at the urinal doing my business. There are dividers between the urinals, and there was another dude at that urinal. And it's all perfectly normal - I am saying nothing to that dude, and he is saying nothing to me. Then, all of a sudden, one of the stall doors open, and we both hear this feminine voice say, "Sorry guys" and I turned my head just in time to see a gal bolt out of the stall and through the restroom door. The dude looked at me, I looked at him, and we laughed.

Deserve to be fired? Maybe not, but quite frankly I don't have much sympathy for him.

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No one would have known unless Man A decided to film it. How is he a "national spectacle"? Man A slandered his rep. His employer's CEO is just virtue-signaling and pandering to women.

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Recording someone isn't slander.

I probably wouldn't have recorded him, but I would have told him to screw off and quit throwing a hissy fit.

Man B was an independent contractor doing work with his real estate company. They ended the contract.

So, yes, technically, no more work for him, but not the same as a salaried employee getting the boot.

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As the father of a girl, it would never have occurred to me to go into the women's restroom with her when she was a young kid even though men's restrooms are gross, especially in gas stations (except Buccees).

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Your daughter never had to go really bad when the men's restroom was occupied and women's wasn't? I am out and about with my little one a ton and we have had to use a womens' restroom at least a couple times over the years.

I always make sure it is all clear...she's a female, so I don't feel bad about it at all. When they're young they sometimes don't give you much notice until they really have to go and then it's all about survival.

Honestly, that father handled it MUCH better than I would have.

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Sounds stupid all around.

Take your daughter to the mens restroom and put her in a stall if she's that young.

The other guy can protest without flipping his lid. If it had been a woman, it would have been ok.

Also, I bet there is more to the story about Man B.

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A kid who has to go when they're 3 or 4 runs the real risk of peeing in their pants and ruining a perfectly good breakfast or lunch. They cannot hold it like we can...and they often let you know at the last minute, just when the dam is about to break. If a men's restroom is occupied and locked, and a women's is wide open, I am doing that instead of the floor of the establishment or her pants. Every. Single. Time.

Luckily, a lot of the newer restaurants in Houston are just starting to do several unisex/family bathrooms so this predicament is much easier to avoid.

single stall ladies bathroom I took my daughter in and locked the door

same for mens, if it was clean

cleanliness was the main issue

I had women offer to help


when she was a bit older I would have her go by herself and i'd wait by the door, had to ask ladies check on her a time or two


I wouldn't really have any qualms doing what the dad did here

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It feels way more weird for him to take the daughters into the women's room than for him to take them into the men's room. In the men's room, he is not out of place and can protect them. In the women's room, he is making everyone else uncomfortable.

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I'll shut up after this, but I would be willing to bet that this is a gas station or comparable place and that the men's restrom was currently occupied. I don't know any fathers who would take their daughters into the women's restroom unless they pretty much had no choice and were desperate.

Either way, they guy freaking out over it is a complete psycho.

Men's restrooms are disgusting. I don't know why grown ass men can't keep from pissing on the floor. You guys need to sit down to take a piss if that's what it takes, but I have no issue with what the guy in the article did. I did that many times when my kids were young. If the 'Women's" restroom is unoccupied, then it is just a restroom. I would either guard the door or simply help the kids do their business. I could give zero f--- about what some beta male says about it. People need to mind their own business.

Not sure the guy should have lost his job though. That's a very liberal approach. It would have been better if it just worked itself out. Personally, I would think twice about calling out a man helping his daughters take a piss in a women's restroom. People like that do what they need to do and don't have a lot of tolerance for interference. You don't want mama bear and you definitely don't want papa bear....mind ya bidniss.

Man A did nothing wrong.

The extent of Man B's concern should have been asking the QT manager just to check on the girls and make sure nothing nefarious was occurring, because it was a man going into the women's restroom with two young girls. I get wanting to be a concerned citizen and protecting children, but he was out of line and went well beyond being a concerned citizen.

I would take young daughters into the women's restroom over the men's. It's just better overall given it's all stalls.

In the men's room, if the stalls are full we have to wait while other men are using the urinals (aka having their junk out). This gives a pervert an opportunity to "accidentally" flash my daughter. Even if there's no perverts, young kids have a tendency to stare, and the girls could be making the men uncomfortable from staring.

In the women's room, it's all stalls and privacy. Women aren't walking around with their tops off or anything. The issue with men being in the women's room is if they don't have a reason to be in there. Taking his daughter to the bathroom is a perfectly valid reason to be in there.

Dads, take your daughters to the women's room. Just don't be weird about it.

ETA: Unless there's a long line for the women's room. Then, depending on the circumstances, I might use my male privilege to go to the men's room.

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Men's restrooms are disgusting. I don't know why grown ass men can't keep from pissing on the floor. You guys need to sit down to take a piss if that's what it takes, but I have no issue with what the guy in the article did. I did that many times when my kids were young. If the 'Women's" restroom is unoccupied, then it is just a restroom. I would either guard the door or simply help the kids do their business. I could give zero f--- about what some beta male says about it. People need to mind their own business.

Not sure the guy should have lost his job though. That's a very liberal approach. It would have been better if it just worked itself out. Personally, I would think twice about calling out a man helping his daughters take a piss in a women's restroom. People like that do what they need to do and don't have a lot of tolerance for interference. You don't want mama bear and you definitely don't want papa bear....mind ya bidniss.

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I used to be 100% in agreement here. But I am losing patience for this kind of behavior. That is completely inexcusable...to attack a father in survival mode with several daughters, likely scaring the girls...that's a punchable offense in my book. The only reason not to clock that guy is because you could be hauled off to the pokey and separated from your girls. But I would have a hard time not at least getting in his face and daring him to make a move. ZERO EFFING PATIENCE FOR HIS FERAL-KAREN BEHAVIOR.

When I was a little kid I remember mom taking me into the ladies' room and I was mortified even at 3 or 4 years old. My dad would never have dared to step foot in a women's restroom with my sister. That's a psychological barrier you just can't get through.

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Men's restrooms are disgusting. I don't know why grown ass men can't keep from pissing on the floor. You guys need to sit down to take a piss if that's what it takes, but I have no issue with what the guy in the article did. I did that many times when my kids were young. If the 'Women's" restroom is unoccupied, then it is just a restroom. I would either guard the door or simply help the kids do their business. I could give zero f--- about what some beta male says about it. People need to mind their own business.

Not sure the guy should have lost his job though. That's a very liberal approach. It would have been better if it just worked itself out. Personally, I would think twice about calling out a man helping his daughters take a piss in a women's restroom. People like that do what they need to do and don't have a lot of tolerance for interference. You don't want mama bear and you definitely don't want papa bear....mind ya bidniss.

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I used to be 100% in agreement here. But I am losing patience for this kind of behavior. That is completely inexcusable...to attack a father in survival mode with several daughters, likely scaring the girls...that's a punchable offense in my book. The only reason not to clock that guy is because you could be hauled off to the pokey and separated from your girls. But I would have a hard time not at least getting in his face and daring him to make a move. ZERO EFFING PATIENCE FOR HIS FERAL-KAREN BEHAVIOR.

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I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it.

gender neutral bathrooms solve this problem btw

A lot more privacy in a women restroom with separate stalls than a mans with open urinals.

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gender neutral bathrooms solve this problem btw

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Those are easy to do when you have a one hole bathroom like a Starbucks but if you need to provide a restroom large enough to accommodate multiple people at a time like a restaurant, convenience or grocery store you can't do that.

They really do and they work fine in Europe but I do not think people here could handle them. You would have too many women thinking that they are in danger and likely too many perverts hanging out in there hoping to catch a glimpse. It is the same reason why nude beaches are not common here.

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gender neutral bathrooms solve this problem btw

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Yeah, I've got 2 girls and as they get older, it becomes more weird to take them into the men's, but still not comfortable sending them alone into women's. Love the places that have plenty of single stall/gender neutral restrooms.

Depending on how blue the city is, I would think twice about letting my little girl go into a women's restroom alone. There's more than a zero chance some dude is in there in heels, lipstick and a 2 day beard.

Libs can't complain about any of this since they built it. Oh yea but this guy was a regular dad, so the enemy.

Man B was way out of line and likely had a lot more going on dealing with people, and dang sure shouldn't have acted that way in front of the little ones. Man A (right or wrong) was just trying to quietly finish up.

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Men's restrooms are disgusting. I don't know why grown ass men can't keep from pissing on the floor. You guys need to sit down to take a piss if that's what it takes, but I have no issue with what the guy in the article did. I did that many times when my kids were young. If the 'Women's" restroom is unoccupied, then it is just a restroom. I would either guard the door or simply help the kids do their business. I could give zero f--- about what some beta male says about it. People need to mind their own business.

Not sure the guy should have lost his job though. That's a very liberal approach. It would have been better if it just worked itself out. Personally, I would think twice about calling out a man helping his daughters take a piss in a women's restroom. People like that do what they need to do and don't have a lot of tolerance for interference. You don't want mama bear and you definitely don't want papa bear....mind ya bidniss.

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I used to be 100% in agreement here. But I am losing patience for this kind of behavior. That is completely inexcusable...to attack a father in survival mode with several daughters, likely scaring the girls...that's a punchable offense in my book. The only reason not to clock that guy is because you could be hauled off to the pokey and separated from your girls. But I would have a hard time not at least getting in his face and daring him to make a move. ZERO EFFING PATIENCE FOR HIS FERAL-KAREN BEHAVIOR.

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I agree. And that is what I meant by 'work itself out'. I just didn't want to catch a ban for typing it out. I think we live in a time now that there just aren't any consequences. That guy is a real estate agent. He's a contractor. He just goes and works for another broker. There is no shortage of agents. I don't know him, I wouldn't recognize his name, there is no real consequence here. I grew up with a very physical type of family. Everyone was cool and calm to a point. My grandfather once punched a guy in the nose and shoved him down a flight of stares for popping off and saying something about my grandmother. You don't have that happen anymore and it shows in society.

Dad clearly was helping out his daughters. The reaction was on the level as if there was a dude jerking off in the women's restroom. Male Karen lost the plot on why people don't want men in women's restrooms.

Dad the right thing. Perfect plan.

Maren (male Karen) over reacted and is a bad person.

As someone stated earlier family restrooms/all genders bathrooms should be commonplace everywhere.

Also in other countries/cities floor to ceiling stalls exist where both genders can use and have privacy.

This is what happens when we stop using logic. Unfortunately, all we seem to use these days is emotion.

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My grandfather once punched a guy in the nose and shoved him down a flight of stares for popping off and saying something about my grandmother. You don't have that happen anymore and it shows in society.

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Oh that's when men were real men and women were real women.

Today? Everyone is confused and in many cases women are more masculine than men and vice versa.

Are squatter's rights relevant in this situation?

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Are squatter's rights relevant in this situation?

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We must take a stand against squatters

fc2112 said:

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What's a male Karen called? Cause that guy is a male Karen.

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I think F16 has agreed that a male Karen is a Kevin. Sorry all you Kevins.

Vitani said:

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It feels way more weird for him to take the daughters into the women's room than for him to take them into the men's room. In the men's room, he is not out of place and can protect them. In the women's room, he is making everyone else uncomfortable.

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No, he checked before he went in there. Plus, many men's room have open urinals. Yeah, he could've done the same thing, but I don't think what he did was wrong at all. I think he did the right thing and the other guy was an absolute ********. I watched the entire video and it is just so ****ing stupid. And who's to say there wouldn't have been both stalls being used when the lady and her mom tried to go in there they would've had to wait anyway. He did the right thing. Even the lady at the Quik Mart apologized to him

If the other ******** had just waited for about two minutes to let them finish, washing their hands, it would've all been over. This whole thing was ridiculous. You need to watch the video. And the guy got let go from a contract on his job for one client so he paid for being a dumbass.

The obsession some people have with who pees in what bathroom is disturbing.

Sex offenders in this state can live next to schools and with unrelated minors the same age as their victims, but that's not even discussed...

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Man A did nothing wrong.

The extent of Man B's concern should have been asking the QT manager just to check on the girls and make sure nothing nefarious was occurring, because it was a man going into the women's restroom with two young girls. I get wanting to be a concerned citizen and protecting children, but he was out of line and went well beyond being a concerned citizen.

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I will say that QT lady did a phenomenal job helping comfort the guys little girls. I hope they gave her some sort of reward/bonus

I remember years ago a man asking if I could take his daughters to the women's restroom. I guess I looked honest.