Ag_07 said:
The trade itself is nice but damn he's making $16mm
I don't think it is that dumb of a trade for the Jags. An often hurt but quality older wr adds much more value to a playoff caliber team then a rebuild.
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I don't think it is that dumb of a trade for the Jags. An often hurt but quality older wr adds much more value to a playoff caliber team then a rebuild.
I'm guessing they restructure his deal. But regardless, I like the trade. I know he's had some injuries but a collar bone is flukey. It's not like he's a guy who's constantly dealing with high ankle sprains, etc.
This shores up a position of need for next to nothing.
This shores up a position of need for next to nothing.
Texan_Aggie said:
Yes it carries over - 1 year remaining with about $16M on it. Look for the Texans to sign an extension and spread cost over 2-3 years.
I agree on the extension, also 18 million isn't that big of a number anymore. I think that puts him around 25th for receivers salaries these days. And for context he makes less a year than Diante Johnson.
Overall it was a smart decision to get him in place and not have to be competitive with other teams on salary. Especially in a year with a very down WR draft class.
I love using 7th round picks on productive veterans. Id do the same thing with sixth round picks.
Agree completely!cupcakesprinkles said:
I love using 7th round picks on productive veterans. Id do the same thing with sixth round picks.
Yes, but we have struck gold in the 7th. Andre Hal, David Anderson, Zac Diles, Derek Newton were all productive. That said, let's use other teams' 7ths any day of the week.
cupcakesprinkles said:
I love using 7th round picks on productive veterans. Id do the same thing with sixth round picks.
Don't disagree. But the reason teams are willing to trade productive veterans for 6th and 7th rounders is they are generally viewed as having bad contracts. You can only go to that well once or twice because of the money involved.
JCA1 said:cupcakesprinkles said:
I love using 7th round picks on productive veterans. Id do the same thing with sixth round picks.
Don't disagree. But the reason teams are willing to trade productive veterans for 6th and 7th rounders is they are generally viewed as having bad contracts. You can only go to that well once or twice because of the money involved.
This is true.
However maybe he's willing to spread the contract out over a few years with better incentives
Instead of 15.5 this year maybe 20 over 4 years with a chance at 25
He has no guarantee of getting 10m more at this point in his career after the current contract
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/texans-plan-to-release-ol-shaq-mason-after-two-seasons/ar-AA1AtuWf
Shaq Mason going to be released. Not surprising as he's the 5th highest paid player on the team, played horribly last year, and releasing him gets almost his entire cap hit back
Shaq Mason going to be released. Not surprising as he's the 5th highest paid player on the team, played horribly last year, and releasing him gets almost his entire cap hit back
AgsMyDude said:JCA1 said:cupcakesprinkles said:
I love using 7th round picks on productive veterans. Id do the same thing with sixth round picks.
Don't disagree. But the reason teams are willing to trade productive veterans for 6th and 7th rounders is they are generally viewed as having bad contracts. You can only go to that well once or twice because of the money involved.
This is true.
However maybe he's willing to spread the contract out over a few years with better incentives
Instead of 15.5 this year maybe 20 over 4 years with a chance at 25
He has no guarantee of getting 10m more at this point in his career after the current contract
I agree on Kirk likely restructuring. My point was you can't trade every 6th and 7th round pick for veterans because you simply don't have the cap space for that.
So Booker from Bama if he's there in round one?
JCA1 said:AgsMyDude said:JCA1 said:cupcakesprinkles said:
I love using 7th round picks on productive veterans. Id do the same thing with sixth round picks.
Don't disagree. But the reason teams are willing to trade productive veterans for 6th and 7th rounders is they are generally viewed as having bad contracts. You can only go to that well once or twice because of the money involved.
This is true.
However maybe he's willing to spread the contract out over a few years with better incentives
Instead of 15.5 this year maybe 20 over 4 years with a chance at 25
He has no guarantee of getting 10m more at this point in his career after the current contract
I agree on Kirk likely restructuring. My point was you can't trade every 6th and 7th round pick for veterans because you simply don't have the cap space for that.
For sure, I absolutely agree. Those picks are important from a cap standpoint too, extremely cheap commodities.
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cupcakesprinkles said:
So Booker from Bama if he's there in round one?
I can dig it, sucka!
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sheldon-rankins-agrees-to-one-year-deal-with-texans
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-braxton-berrios-agree-to-one-year-deal
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-to-re-sign-de-derek-barnett
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-agree-to-terms-with-db-tremon-smith
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-braxton-berrios-agree-to-one-year-deal
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-to-re-sign-de-derek-barnett
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-agree-to-terms-with-db-tremon-smith
I'm pretty happy with those signings to shore up some spots (I really like the Tremon Smith signing for DB depth and ST play)Max Power said:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sheldon-rankins-agrees-to-one-year-deal-with-texans
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-braxton-berrios-agree-to-one-year-deal
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-to-re-sign-de-derek-barnett
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/texans-agree-to-terms-with-db-tremon-smith
Also apparently we're really looking at bringing in Greenlaw from the 49ers, hopefully that would be on a prove it deal but that would further upgrade the defense.
Former #Texans S Eric Murray is signing with the #Jaguars on a 3 year deal worth $22 million. Per @MJD
— Dylan Delgatto (@DDelgattoNFL) March 10, 2025
Murray leaves Houston for a division rival. Made $2 mil last year from the Texans. pic.twitter.com/Y1ssWVFRot
Trade: Texans are trading five-time Pro Bowl offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil to the Washington Commanders for a package of picks, sources tell ESPN.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 10, 2025
What if they're just sending a box of guitar picks in the mail and we got screwedLilSebastian13 said:Trade: Texans are trading five-time Pro Bowl offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil to the Washington Commanders for a package of picks, sources tell ESPN.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 10, 2025
The full terms:
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 10, 2025
-- A 2nd rounder and a fourth rounder to the #Texans, plus a third rounder this year.
-- Houston sends back a fourth rounder and Laremy Tunsil. https://t.co/fIpevnwjQe
This makes it seem like only a 3rd from this year and the 2 and 4 are future picks.
We better have a plan for OL.
The Texans are trading Pro Bowl tackle Laremy Tunsil to the Commanders, per source.
— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) March 10, 2025
Washington receives:
LT Laremy Tunsil
2025 4th
Houston receives:
2025 3rd
2025 7th
2026 2nd
2026 4th pic.twitter.com/zycpXYZQcC
Apparently it's not to get a bunch of dumb ass penalties.Ziggy Sobotka said:
We better have a plan for OL.
I'm assuming Fisher to LT and the Howard back to RT?Ziggy Sobotka said:
We better have a plan for OL.
BohunkAg said:Apparently it's not to get a bunch of dumb ass penalties.Ziggy Sobotka said:
We better have a plan for OL.
But possibly give up more sacks in return
What are the cap implications?LilSebastian13 said:Trade: Texans are trading five-time Pro Bowl offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil to the Washington Commanders for a package of picks, sources tell ESPN.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 10, 2025
Also, I totally called this on this thread like a month ago.
The Texans were already tied for third most in sacks allowed in 2024.gougler08 said:BohunkAg said:Apparently it's not to get a bunch of dumb ass penalties.Ziggy Sobotka said:
We better have a plan for OL.
But possibly give up more sacks in return
Clearly he's not the guy. He hasn't been the guy and he won't be the guy. The Texans gave up the second most sacks in the league last year.
Maybe he'll be that guy in Washington but he is not ever going to be that guy here.
Glad to get the picks, a year too late if you ask me.
Maybe he'll be that guy in Washington but he is not ever going to be that guy here.
Glad to get the picks, a year too late if you ask me.
Think this was a culture move. Our line has been "finesse" for awhile. He is the leader and you weren't going to change that with him here.
I mean, if you got a box of rocks for him, that Would've been fine.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
oh, Caserio wasn't buying all the Pro Bowl hype
2nd, 3rd, and 4th for a 30-year old player
good Nick
2nd, 3rd, and 4th for a 30-year old player
good Nick
Laremy Tunsil’s remaining contract and dead cap & savings with a pre-jun 1 trade:
— Houston Stressans (@TexansCommenter) March 10, 2025
(Not sure of how it will all shakeout but sharing nonetheless). Should receive some cap relief this year & next I’d suspect. pic.twitter.com/vpJtnhtT64
Doesn't save us much this year to use for a replacement.
let's trade away the guy responsible for 2 of the 52 sacks our line gave up.
That will help CJ next year.
That will help CJ next year.
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The AFC False Start leader race just got blown wide open for '25.
How many yards in penalties was he responsible for? Those are just as bad as sacks.
He also couldn't care less about run blocking. This is addition by subtraction.
He also couldn't care less about run blocking. This is addition by subtraction.
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