maybe i missed it, but why would the Eagles do that deal? Green has sucked.

Furlock Bones said:

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maybe i missed it, but why would the Eagles do that deal? Green has sucked.

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Project OLman and they have one of the best OL coaches in the game.

So is the ghost of Bob McNair going to play O Line now or what?

Does anyone know the salary cap numbers for CJGJ and Green? Did we net add'l money or lose some?

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cj-gardner-johnson-kenyon-green-trade-free-agency-texans/653665/

This move won't save the Eagles much cap room in 2025 (just $211,000 per OverTheCap) but will free up some money in the future for the team to continue to keep its core together long-term.

A big part of this trade is giving former third-round pick Sydney Brown a chance to compete for a starting spot next to Reed Blankenship in the Eagles' defense. Brown was a third-round pick out of Illinois in 2023 but hasn't yet carved out a significant role on defense. He showed some promise as a rookie but tore his ACL in the regular season finale and missed the start of 2024 before bing buried on the depth chart.

Eagle fans decidedly unhappy

https://www.eaglesmessageboard.com/topic/12954-eagles-trade-cj-gardner-johnson/

CJG is a really nice addition to a very young secondary. Ward was nice but was declining quickly whenever he actually made it to the field. Now we have someone who can play and has won a super bowl back there.


Also, we probably cleared some cap space, CJG has a very small salary left (I think 1.3 million this year and a little less next year), and everything on the cap number was mostly his prorated signing bonus for the eagles. Kenyon Green had his 2.8 million guaranteed number from his rookie contract, but I have no idea how the rookie signing bonus works in regards to a trade.

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Kenyon Green | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Green - $2.8mil Cap Hit, Club option in 2026

Gardner-Jonson - $3.7mil Cap hit this year, and $4.6mil next year.

MAROON said:

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Chauncey Gardner-Johnson | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Kenyon Green | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Green - $2.8mil Cap Hit, Clun option in 2026

Gardner-Jonson - $3.7mil Cap hit this year, and $4.6mil next year.

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That CGJ cap hit is mostly prorated signing bonus, which should stay with the Eagles as dead cap?

https://overthecap.com/player/chauncey-gardner-johnson-jr/7896

Positive Ag said:

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Just don't forget to send Schultz packing too.

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I would be happy, but don't think we'll be able to move him. While his contract isn't bad, it isn't something that would make someone want to take him.

IrishAg said:

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Positive Ag said:

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Just don't forget to send Schultz packing too.

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I would be happy, but don't think we'll be able to move him. While his contract isn't bad, it isn't something that would make someone want to take him.

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Wish the Texans could sneak into the top 10 and get Tyler Warren from Penn State

Positive Ag said:

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Just don't forget to send Schultz packing too.

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Ready to run with Brevin Jordan and Cade Stovall? If we move away from Schultz, we'll need a TE in the draft and I think we could get Lachey (Iowa) in the 4th or 5th round.

The Eagles took on $4.7M from CGJ's signing bonus, the rest of the proration belongs to future option bonuses that transfer to Houston.

— Spotrac (@spotrac) March 11, 2025

Ya definitely need to address the position. I'm a fan of Harold Fannin from bowling green but obviously banking on a draft pick isn't a full proof plan. But ya any tightends from Iowa are always worth a shot as well.

dcaggie04 said:

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The Eagles took on $4.7M from CGJ's signing bonus, the rest of the proration belongs to future option bonuses that transfer to Houston.

— Spotrac (@spotrac) March 11, 2025

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Nice, so that should put us close to 2M per year for the next 2 years, and then we can void the 11M bonus after that. Assuming we don't redo the contract.

Positive Ag said:

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Ya definitely need to address the position. I'm a fan of Harold Fannin from bowling green but obviously banking on a draft pick isn't a full proof plan. But ya any tightends from Iowa are always worth a shot as well.

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I don't think Fannin fits this offense style, Caley's time at New England and LA had inline guys the entire time, so I could see us taking Arroyo in the 3rd if he's there.

I like Fannin's upside. He's basically a WR playing TE and he put up ridiculous numbers at Bowling Green.

I probably have 4-5 TEs ahead of Fannin but that's just me

Signed a guard, Laken Tomlinson.

He was a starter last year at least. PFF graded him as about average so if it's cheap that's a good signing.

The Original Houston 1836 said:

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IrishAg said:

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Positive Ag said:

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Just don't forget to send Schultz packing too.

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I would be happy, but don't think we'll be able to move him. While his contract isn't bad, it isn't something that would make someone want to take him.

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Wish the Texans could sneak into the top 10 and get Tyler Warren from Penn State

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Yeah, I would love to get Warren but what if Loveland is still available around the high teens to low twenties? Most mocks seem to say that Warren will be gone by 14 but Loveland would still be available. But that Loveland wouldn't drop past the Chargers at 22.

#53/135 of Guards in pass blocking. So an upgrade at not a huge price - $4.25mil

So Tomlinson is basically the Kenyon Green replacement.

That's an upgrade for sure.

maybe mute this one...didn't realize it had volume

Caserio looking at Tytus Howard after getting rid of 3 of the 5 starting OL pic.twitter.com/KevyixDCMX

— 🖲️ (@TexansSavedMe) March 11, 2025

I mean, tough for the Colts because even now, 8 years after retiring, Luck is only 35. But damn they ae making some dumb decisions in a division full of dumb historically dumb decision making.

I mean, it's not like the Texans are devoid of bad decisions. But, yeah.

The Texans secondary is going to be great next year.

Great analysis from Sean Pendergast on the line moves

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The Houston Texans' 2024 season was one of those seasons that one might categorize as "just fine." They won 10 games, took home another division title, blew out the Chargers in a playoff game, before falling flat in Kansas City in the AFC divisional round. So, they fell short.

Like any failure, there is blame to be assigned, and based on the behavior of the team, both in coaching staff construction and in personnel over the last few days, the blame game for the Texans is clear. The franchise sees the Texans' underperformance as an offensive issue, specifically the offensive line. I say that because the only Texans coaches to lose their jobs were former offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik and former offensive line coach Chris Strausser.

Meanwhile, a few weeks after making changes to the coaching staff, Nick Caserio and DeMeco Ryans have spent the last few days completely dismantling one of the most underperforming offensive lines in football. Late last week, they released right guard Shaq Mason. On Monday, they traded Pro Bowl left tackle Laremy Tunsil to Washington for a boatload of draft picks. Finally, on Tuesday morning, they traded left guard Kenyon Green to Philadelphia for safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson.

This is all necessary, if they are going to become a better running and pass blocking team. Here are my thoughts on the Texans' eventful last few days:

The trade sending Tunsil out of Houston is bigger than the one that brought him here
Back in 2019, when the Texans were a few months into Bill O'Brien's reign of terror as head coach AND general manager, O'Brien sent two first round picks and a second round pick to the Dolphins for Tunsil. At the time, it was a massive overpay for a huge position of need for the Texans. In other words, it was done for football reasons. Fast forward six seasons, and Tunsil has made Five Pro Bowls. However, it seems like Texan fans were thrilled to see him go. That's very telling. This second trade of Tunsil, the one shipping him out, was done because Tunsil is not the leader and culture setter that this offensive line room needs. He's not a bad guy, but he is a paycheck player. DeMeco Ryans wants rabid dogs. Tunsil is the world's largest poodle.

Nick Caserio gets SOMETHING out of Kenyon Green
The Texans used the 15th pick in the 2022 draft to select Green out of Texas A&M, and all things considered, it's been an unmitigated disaster. Green came into his first camp injured, struggled his entire rookie season, missed his entire second season with a shoulder injury, and then was about to get benched in his third season before getting hurt again. The only good thing I can say about Green as a Texan is that he did an admirable job committing to his injury rehab in 2024. He got into great shape. However, the pick has been a bust, in every other way. That's what makes the trade of Green to the Eagles so pleasantly surprising. Nick Caserio was able to extract at least SOME value out of Green, acquiring two seasons of safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson, who is a big hitter and had six picks last season. Gardner-Johnson is only 27 years old. This is a fantastic pickup.

Is Tytus Howard safe?
Of course, if Tunsil is getting traded, then it means nobody on the offensive line is safe, because Tunsil was largely good at his job. Shaq Mason has been cut, and Green has been traded. If I were Tytus Howard, who might be the biggest excuse maker out of all the guys on this offensive line, I'd have my head on a swivel. Personally, I hope Caserio moves Howard. I don't care what he gets for him. Get out from under his salary and his non-SWARM personality. Do it, Nick.

What does C.J. Stroud think of all this?
It's too bad this deconstruction of the Texans' offensive line wasn't happening a year ago, because this time last year, it was hard to find an outlet that C.J. Stroud HAD NOT done an interview with. He was on every podcast imaginable, so we probably would have gotten some level of opinion about moving on from Green, Mason, and particularly Tunsil, who protects Stroud's blind side. If the Texans were dismantling an offensive line that was actually good, then it would be a much bigger deal. Stroud should view all of this as a motivated attempt to make his life a whole lot easier.