****** The Official Houston Texans Thread 2025 ******

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someone should send that X post to the McNairs and Nick Cassie
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something about Mike Leach and accuracy (or lack thereof) comes to mind
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W said:

something about Mike Leach and accuracy (or lack thereof) comes to mind

and someone should send Mike Leach quotes to Elko and Caseiro
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I see Mark Fletcher is projected as a 5th round pick. Wouldn't mind seeing the Texans pick him up.
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In the 5th someone would be getting a steal. Dude is a beast.

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Bogey1996 said:

I see Mark Fletcher is projected as a 5th round pick. Wouldn't mind seeing the Texans pick him up.




pretty sure hes returning to miami
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Don't like this
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maca1028 said:


Don't like this


On the radio this afternoon, they thought he was a possibility for the OC position in Tenn. I like this better than that.
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JCA1 said:

maca1028 said:


Don't like this


On the radio this afternoon, they thought he was a possibility for the OC position in Tenn. I like this better than that.


Yeah, I figured he follow Saleh to Tennessee with their SF familiarity
maca1028
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Good point. I just don't like the fact that he's not coming here, but we all knew that.
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IrishAg said:



2023 kind of surprised me, but apparently CJ has been in the top 2 for worst off-target throw rate percentage of any QB all three years he's been in the NFL.


I don't know the parameters for a throw to be considered off target in terms of distance from where the ball should be placed, but it certainly seems like Stroud misses by very large margins when he does miss.

One thing that might not be factored in those percentages is whether a pass is completed, yet when looking at the potential of the play, not hitting the receiver in stride can be devastating to the yards after catch potential.
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Stroud will likely continue to make some incredible plays on occasion, however it's the ordinary plays that fails to make too often. If the Texans can do a good job of improving the OL, who were playing pretty decently for much of the season, and get the running game going again, I think Stroud can get back to being a very good quarterback if he stops being overly concerned about the pass rush. Calmness in the pocket could change him completely.
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eATMup-Reveille said:

Stroud will likely continue to make some incredible plays on occasion, however it's the ordinary plays that fails to make too often. If the Texans can do a good job of improving the OL, who were playing pretty decently for much of the season, and get the running game going again, I think Stroud can get back to being a very good quarterback if he stops being overly concerned about the pass rush. Calmness in the pocket could change him completely.


I disagree. He's done. He's permanently broken in this town. No matter how good the oline and running game get, he will never be calm in the pocket here. The longer we stick with him, the more time we waste not winning a title with this defense.
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calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.
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oh no said:

calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.

Don't forget depth on the pass catchers where our 2nd level is just as good as our first level, for when those high and behind passes cause injuries.
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Yes

He's done
Gig ‘Em Baby!
JCA1
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The team is in a really interesting place right now. To their credit, they've built a truly championship caliber defense similar to the Ravens, Bucs, Seahawks, etc. Coupled with the fact that there's no truly dominant teams right now, simply pairing it with an average offense makes this team a legit contender, if not a favorite. Unfortunately, the offense can't manage average right now. The question, how much of this window do you burn trying to find out if these guys (and, in particular, CJ) can get there?

You can make a pretty good argument that next year should be treated as Super Bowl or bust and if you think you can snag a veteran QB who gives you a better chance than CJ, you should do it. Now, I'm doubtful the team does this, but windows like this are often short lived. I hope they are exploring everything.
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It was still a pretty remarkable run from starting 0-3. Just a disappointing final two games by the QB where his three-seasons long known deficiencies really shined and bit the hardest at the worst time.

Makes you wonder though, even without Mixon or Dell all year, even without Nico in that last game, would they have won vs New England last week if Trent Brown were available and Titus Howard and Daulton Schultz hadn't both gone down in the first half last weekend? It feels like this team should be eating Jarrett Stidham en route to the super bowl right now. I mean, we lost because CJ threw FOUR int's vs the Pats... but if Titus stays upright, is there a chance CJ only throws three or two of those picks and we win?
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another consideration with the "window" for this team.. JAX and INDY are trending way up heading into next year, IMO
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superaggie73 said:

eATMup-Reveille said:

Stroud will likely continue to make some incredible plays on occasion, however it's the ordinary plays that fails to make too often. If the Texans can do a good job of improving the OL, who were playing pretty decently for much of the season, and get the running game going again, I think Stroud can get back to being a very good quarterback if he stops being overly concerned about the pass rush. Calmness in the pocket could change him completely.


I disagree. He's done. He's permanently broken in this town. No matter how good the oline and running game get, he will never be calm in the pocket here. The longer we stick with him, the more time we waste not winning a title with this defense.

Agreed. The New England game was his Brad Lidge Game 6. It's just a matter of when he leaves at this point, not if.
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oh no said:

calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.

While I understand this is sarcasm, it's mostly true. If you have a very good defense, you can win a title with a game manager QB. You don't have to have Brady or Manning or Mahomes necessarily.

We have an elite defense.

It appears Demeco wants to have a power, smashmouth offense, but we don't currently have the personnel to make that work. I think you have starters on the line in Ersery, Howard and Ingram, and you need to add two maulers this offseason, whether by draft or free agency. You need an every-down, franchise back, and that isn't easy to find. The ND RB is probably the only first round back, and you probably have to trade up into the top 10 or so if you want him. Unless some guys get cut, free agency isn't all that interesting...Seattle's Kenneth Walker would be awesome but I have no idea if Seattle will actually let him walk. Either way, they need to find a legit back...Woody and the ghost of Nick Chubb isn't good enough.

However, if you can retool the line and add a legit running back, you can focus on running the ball consistently (probably what DeMeco wants any way) and CJ doesn't have to be Mahomes to win.

Still disappointed in how CJ has seemingly regressed over time. After his rookie year, I thought we finally had a legit elite QB. He might still be that guy, but I'm doubtful.
maca1028
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Wow, all indications from the GM today made it seem as if they're running it back with the staff on offense. What a gamble.
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maca1028 said:

Wow, all indications from the GM today made it seem as if they're running it back with the staff on offense. What a gamble.

I mean, why not? A new staff isn't going to fix this in just one year, they need continuity with the playbook. Also, you can only blame the offensive coaches for so long, before no coaches worth a damn will come here.
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JCA1 said:

In addition to the poor play, the way he's carried himself during the games is really troubling as well. Admittedly, trying to read body language can clearly be a fool's errand. But, man, CJ has exuded some terrible body language the last two games.

Eeyore
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oh no said:

calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.

....and how do you suppose they will fit all of that under the salary cap?
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wasntme said:

oh no said:

calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.

....and how do you suppose they will fit all of that under the salary cap?



oh. silly me. what was i thinking?

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IrishAg said:

maca1028 said:

Wow, all indications from the GM today made it seem as if they're running it back with the staff on offense. What a gamble.

I mean, why not? A new staff isn't going to fix this in just one year, they need continuity with the playbook. Also, you can only blame the offensive coaches for so long, before no coaches worth a damn will come here.

Do you think that Jerrod should be back considering that CJ has regressed with him as the QB coach?
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oh no said:

wasntme said:

oh no said:

calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.

....and how do you suppose they will fit all of that under the salary cap?



oh. silly me. what was i thinking?



I know you were being sarcastic, I was just going along with it, lol!
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oh no said:

another consideration with the "window" for this team.. JAX and INDY are trending way up heading into next year, IMO

Indy has as tough of a QB dilemma if not more so than the Texans. Danny Dimes is a free agent.
He went 8-5 and was tremendously successful for the Colts last year, the had the ACL injury. His contract last year was 1 year, $14 million.

Those 13 games of success (3,101 yards, 19 TD, 8 INT) make him a pretty sought-after free agent.

1) So is he loyal to the Colts because it's such a good situation?
2) Are the Colts willing to give him big-time starter money based on 13 games against a terrible schedule followed by a season-ending injury?
3) Are the Colts willing to do that when they still are on the hook for $10.8 m for AR15 for 2026?
4) Who is going to back up the truck for Dimes if he looks around the league? Who needs a QB really badly?

Arizona.
Cleveland.
Raiders if they don't draft Mendoza
Saints
Jets
Steelers

Or we could set the world on fire and sign Daniel Jones away from the Colts and make Stroud a backup.
Because you know a well as do that a healthy Daniel Jones is a 5-6 point favorite at Denver this weekend.
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I'm more perplexed than ever now. No idea what this could be that both the team and Mixon (and his agent) would rather the rumor mill spin wild all year than simply clear this up.


IrishAg
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maca1028 said:

IrishAg said:

maca1028 said:

Wow, all indications from the GM today made it seem as if they're running it back with the staff on offense. What a gamble.

I mean, why not? A new staff isn't going to fix this in just one year, they need continuity with the playbook. Also, you can only blame the offensive coaches for so long, before no coaches worth a damn will come here.

Do you think that Jerrod should be back considering that CJ has regressed with him as the QB coach?

What will it accomplish? CJ Stroud is a 3 year veteran in the NFL going into his 4th season. He's played in 6 playoff games. Changing his QB coach isn't going to magically fix him at this point. Best case scenario is continuity and you hope everything clicks for him next year. Do I think that will happen, nope....but, I don't see how bringing in someone else is going to help.

When you think about it, this offense looks like it was designed and executed by an extremely smart first year play caller....which is exactly what Nick Caley is. So ride with it, expect him and his offense to grow as he, his coaches, and the players get more comfortable in what to do. Nothing to be done about it now, if it doesn't work then clearly a large scale overall should happen next year at the president, gm, coaching and player level. Because the choices made and capabilities shown at all levels was severely lacking, and that will be the only way to change things.
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oh no said:

wasntme said:

oh no said:

calm down, guys. CJ Stroud can be a good enough quarterback. As long as they maintain an elite defense at all three levels, build one of the best OLs in the NFL, get some stud WRs adept at catching passes that are high and behind them, have a stable of healthy work horse RBs that don't shoot themselves in the foot, and stay healthy, this team can win with CJ at QB.

....and how do you suppose they will fit all of that under the salary cap?



oh. silly me. what was i thinking?




Yeah, you forgot a couple of George Kittle-like do-everything TE's. I mean, we need a couple of security blankets for CJ.
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CJ's problem is between the ears. I have no idea the specifics.

If Texans can right the ship with a sports psychologist and some sort of leadership training, maybe keep him? Worked okay for Framber for a stretch.

Either way, unless there's a home run QB that makes sense, I'm not for dumping CJ and hiring a $30M+/year mediocre QB like Daniel Jones.
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Texan_Aggie said:

CJ's problem is between the ears. I have no idea the specifics.

If Texans can right the ship with a sports psychologist and some sort of leadership training, maybe keep him? Worked okay for Framber for a stretch.

Either way, unless there's a home run QB that makes sense, I'm not for dumping CJ and hiring a $30M+/year mediocre QB like Daniel Jones.

At least none of the receivers have to worry about being drilled in the chest with a football
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JCA1 said:

I'm more perplexed than ever now. No idea what this could be that both the team and Mixon (and his agent) would rather the rumor mill spin wild all year than simply clear this up.




Someone in the media should just say, "How about when you guys want to come clean and announce what happened, let us know. Until then, we're going to just continue torching Stroud. "
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