CS City Council Place 5 - Data Center Update

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mason12 said:

01:02 AM the meeting was adjourned.

Did they move whatever else was left on the agenda to a different meeting date, since they moved the data center stuff to be the first thing after the consent agenda?

Also, just out of curiosity, how long did the consent agenda stuff take? Was the data center part of the meeting 6+ hours ?
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How do we start the process?
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I am excited and shocked that it was a unanimous no! CS residents stepped up big tonight and I am so proud.
Now we fire the city manager…
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Did they break it to him that it was DENIED! I thought it was in poor taste he left.


It was noted from someone who was speaking he was gone. It was after unanimous vote that we got the news that he was at the bird.

I said something along the lines of, "It's a shame Don is no longer with us, he'd have had the dude bounced out on his ass."

Fun times!
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Omperlodge said:

2020 said:

Hornbeck said:

The signatures necessary to recall

Nichols: 8,405
Wright: 7,836

I've got numbers for all of them.


Based on the petition numbers this past week, that's certainly attainable. I think the turnout to recall some of these folks would even surprise some of us. The way Nichols and Wright thumb their noses at their own constituents is on full display tonight. I am extremely disappointed that these are our "representatives."


If you go this route get way more than you need to hold up to review. Classic problem with petitions.


Texas City just tried to recall their mayor, and the city secretary alleged fraud and threw out 1,000+ signatures.

Getting 10k each would work. I know a lot of people after tonight would be on board with a recall of Wright and Nichols.

I'm willing to help. It's clear that we have a vacuum of leadership. In that vacuum, the unelected leader that is running the ship needs to go.

First order of business in my mind is let it not so subtly be known that the real problem is Woods. Focus on trust and accountability… (Macy's… Northgate… Bitcoin dude…)
(You know, stuff we gripe about on here. )

Maybe he leaves.

I might make cleaning house a focus for recall citing all the recent failures, and very pointedly highlighting that this is to begin to turn things around. Next thing Eco Dev and Woods will try to bring in will be worse. We have a great new opportunity with a commercial hazardous waste disposal site….

I'll gladly help. Don't want to completely drive it, but some folks in my neighborhood are definitely on board. If we the people hesitate, we will lose the momentum we just gained.
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Hey y'all…
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Hornbeck said:

Omperlodge said:

2020 said:

Hornbeck said:

The signatures necessary to recall

Nichols: 8,405
Wright: 7,836

I've got numbers for all of them.


Based on the petition numbers this past week, that's certainly attainable. I think the turnout to recall some of these folks would even surprise some of us. The way Nichols and Wright thumb their noses at their own constituents is on full display tonight. I am extremely disappointed that these are our "representatives."


If you go this route get way more than you need to hold up to review. Classic problem with petitions.


Texas City just tried to recall their mayor, and the city secretary alleged fraud and threw out 1,000+ signatures.

Getting 10k each would work. I know a lot of people after tonight would be on board with a recall of Wright and Nichols.

I'm willing to help. It's clear that we have a vacuum of leadership. In that vacuum, the unelected leader that is running the ship needs to go.

First order of business in my mind is let it not so subtly be known that the real problem is Woods. Focus on trust and accountability… (Macy's… Northgate… Bitcoin dude…)
(You know, stuff we gripe about on here. )

Maybe he leaves.

I might make cleaning house a focus for recall citing all the recent failures, and very pointedly highlighting that this is to begin to turn things around. Next thing Eco Dev and Woods will try to bring in will be worse. We have a great new opportunity with a commercial hazardous waste disposal site….

I'll gladly help. Don't want to completely drive it, but some folks in my neighborhood are definitely on board. If we the people hesitate, we will lose the momentum we just gained.

Woods should have been fired within 48 hours of it being disclosed that he did not tell the council about Lewis's interest in the Macy's building,
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MiMi said:

Council now speaking. Paraphrased.

Scott Shafer: I was wrong about being able to mitigate the negatives. I'm in favor of denying this tonight.

Bob Yancy: What else is wrong with the project if KBTX achieved a concession today? I don't think they will ever get the power they will need. I believe in citizens first. We work for you. I am still a hard no today.

Melissa McIlhaney: I got 659 emails. Zero in support of the data center. I've been mad all week because I've been hog-tied. We followed a process that needs to be reassessed and redesigned. None of us were trying to get something by you. Our first duty is to you. I too will support denying the sales agreement.

David White: I apologize. This is a learning experience. I will be more transparent in what we are doing. It's not right how this came out. We are learning. My decision is based on our quality of health, home value. My vote is to deny this.

William Wright: It's been a difficult week. I was accused of automated responses. I was called the most corrupt of the bunch. You are passionate and angry. I'll be voting to deny this as well. I really appreciate everyone's time and engagement. I really encourage you to continue to be involved. I can't see this going forward.

Mark Smith: I apologize to the hundreds I didn't respond to. I did read them. Growth demands an increase in city services. We are challenged to find funding sources. How can we attract an ideal business? That's our job. I think we need to look for something else for this spot. And look our our processes to avoid this. The only thig I would have done differently is to do this sooner.



The 300+ acres will develop as the city grows. The city's role is to set the standards for development and facilitate the development,

Tower Point, Rock Praire/Wellborn area, Rock Prairie/Hwy 6 retail/professional areas developed with limited city marketing input as far as I understand,

Maybe the city should investigate re-platting the area into 20 to 30 acre tracts with streets and selling the tracts to private commercial developers, with tight zoning restrictions, so that interested parties might be interested in locating there in the future?

It we paid $700,000 for the land, it appears the city might be able to offset the cost of some of the other past stupid real property purchases?

Going forward, the city should stay out of the real estate business,
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w8liftr said:

Why did the City buy the land in the first place? Where in the city charter does it allow the city to do real estate speculation?




In 2000, the City of College Station acquired a significant portion of the land for the Midtown Business Park, which was later developed into a commercial area anchored by a Costco store. The city purchased the land for approximately $700,000 and later sold some of it to the business park's developer to help spur commercial development in the area.
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Well done everyone. Now that the purchase is off, I for one would like to see those details that no one on the council or staff could (or wanted to) talk about. Something smells and it is time to take this to the curb.
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Hornbeck said:

Hey y'all…


So true, however it should have never come to this....
First the non-transparency
Signing an ND that would be detrimental to the citizens of College Station.
Moving the sale to the last place in a 1000 page agenda.

As I have said, this whole thing does not pass the smells test.
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Thank you Councilman Yancy for bringing this to the people the moment you were allowed to. The fact that you were limited by process to only do that within a 24hr period is wholly unacceptable and opposite the interests of the community. How can I help to change that?
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College Station City Council unanimously rejects land sale for AI data center

https://www.kbtx.com/2025/09/12/college-station-city-council-unanimously-rejects-land-sale-ai-data-center/

A victory for the citizens last night, but the need for some changes is crystal clear.
Flatlander
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While this achieved the desired result of a 'No' vote, I think the real win for last night was:
  • Concession from council that they need to be more transparent (let's hope that truly happens).
  • Increased citizen engagement
Only thing missing now is staff accountability.
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woodiewood1 said:

w8liftr said:

Why did the City buy the land in the first place? Where in the city charter does it allow the city to do real estate speculation?




In 2000, the City of College Station acquired a significant portion of the land for the Midtown Business Park, which was later developed into a commercial area anchored by a Costco store. The city purchased the land for approximately $700,000 and later sold some of it to the business park's developer to help spur commercial development in the area.


Thats the history but not the why these purchase occurred.
Was this another Macy's?
Why is the city staff trying to play real estate developer?
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I am deeply appreciative of the common folk of this community for standing up and fighting against what appears to be a runaway government.

I trust my neighbors a whole lot more than I do the Mayor & City Council.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
herewegoagain
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Bob yancy takes a lot of heat on here, but he deserves big kudos on this one. I guarantee you this passes if he doesn't get folks stirred up on Texags with the heads up he gave.
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Hornbeck said:

So, a young lady at the meeting said that Brandon S was at the chicken. One of her girlfriends texted her and told her.

So fitting.

Wife said, you should go…. I'm going to bed.

He seemed like a smart guy, he probably already knew what the outcome would be but he wanted to at least save face and speak on his company's behalf.

I wouldn't have stayed for 6 hours either just to hear that it would get voted down
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TAMU1990 said:

maroon barchetta said:

mwm said:

Maybe we can get peta involved.

I've seen hogs and deer cross Midtown Drive just north of Costco.


I might have seen an endangered lizard or wetland toad on that tract in the past.

There is actually an endangered species of plant called Navasota Ladies Tresses in Lick Creek and throughout the Brazos River basin.


The COCS didn't care about these when residents were speaking against the rezonibg of the land near TP HEB.
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Assistant City MGR will be on WTAW about 8:35.
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Independence H-D said:

Assistant City MGR will be on WTAW about 8:35.

saying exactly what he said last night "it's not our fault, council knew everything and directed us the whole time" and if you believe that I'm the tooth fairy
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Thank you, Bob!
tu ag
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If the staff feels safe this morning, then the job has just begun.
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I wish Scott wasn't on vacation. He does a great job interviewing people from the cities.
Independence H-D
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The Conspiracy Theory that popped into my mind (briefly) is that they timed it with Scott's vacay....
FlyRod
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I may have missed it in all the posts but was the data center voted down for good or just postponed for a later date? I'm hearing both from different people.
BCSWguru
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the city manager in Bryan is retiring soon. Maybe CS can hire.
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FlyRod said:

I may have missed it in all the posts but was the data center voted down for good or just postponed for a later date? I'm hearing both from different people.

I watched the vote. It was voted down.
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FlyRod said:

I may have missed it in all the posts but was the data center voted down for good or just postponed for a later date? I'm hearing both from different people.

This real estate contract was voted down. Nothing says that another one cant be brought up in the future for the same thing, but I think given the reaction to this one, another one would be political suicide
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It was DENIED!
BobAchgill
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The lesson painfully learned again from this week is clear: secrecy, NDAs, and backroom deals always come at the expense of citizens, and the cost grows heavier each time it's ignored.

Whether it's Gibbons Creek, which robbed College Station of the proverbial golden goose that could have laid golden eggs by attracting ten's of thousands of fishermen as tourists but instead became a lake bordered by million-dollar homeowners who only care about their viewor a data center that entices great wealth but brings multiple entrapments leading to an electric power monopoly that drives BTU out of business and forces everyone to buy higher-priced power, or the shielding of knowledge that Brazos County is running out of water in eight years because it's an election year and incumbents don't want to lose their power base they've worked so hard to build…

In every case, the source of failure comes back to broken promises rooted in non-transparency and secrecy.

Gibbons Creek: hidden by NDA

Data Center: hidden by NDA

Water Shortage: hidden through Open Meetings violations, with incumbents withholding news that Texas A&M is on the verge of becoming a ghost town


An endless stream of entrepreneurs troll city governments for ways to separate citizens from their wealth, leveraging two tools: NDAs and Open Meetings Act loopholes.

How to prevent falling prey?
It's simple: adopt this policyno deal is so good that you have to lie to your mother.

Gibbons Creek: "Sign this NDA because we don't want others to…"

Data Center: "Sign this NDA because…"

Water Security: councilmen kept secrets


The way forward:
What happened this week will keep happening because lying has been baked into the culture of staff and council.

We all get report cards in lifestudents at school, employees at work. Here, the report card is recall. Citizens are the teachers and bosses; council members serve at their pleasure. With documented breaches of ethics relating to water security during an election cycle in one hand, and a petition with 15% of voters' signatures in the other, citizens should approach the city secretary and request a recall of all incumbent council members.

If the city secretary fails to perform their required duty to initiate the recall, then escalation to the Attorney General is the next step.

The recall is the citizens' leverage over the existing council. If council members truly want to keep their role of serving the community they love, then they can readily implement these recommendations tomorrow and bargain with the citizens to avert the recall.

Then, at the first council meeting after the purgeor after reforms are adopted to stave it offthey should close the NDA and Open Meetings loopholes that plague small cities and replace the city manager.

Here is the proof ...


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MsDoubleD81
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No Aggie ring, either. And he mentions being an Aggie numerous times.
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Bob Yancy takes a lot of heat in here as he's lumped in with the other city council members. He is always here on Texags to get the temperature of the community and DOES represent the community. I for one am extremely grateful for him bringing this up ahead of the meeting. He knew something wasn't right with it 11 months ago and was handcuffed until this week.
Thank you Bob!
 
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