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Cajun/Creole places have had it tough in this town. Hebert's tried. Crazy Cajun's (wow do I miss them) tried.

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Same for Crazy Cajun and whatever the short-lived place in Wellborn where TX Burger is now located was called.

There was a barbecue place there briefly, too. I forgot about the Cajun place. I've heard it did so well that it overwhelmed the owner.

EDIT: Junek's Barbecue and Grill per 2009 Google street view. I don't remember if Cajun was before or after that.

AggiePhil said:

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FlyRod said:

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Cajun/Creole places have had it tough in this town. Hebert's tried. Crazy Cajun's (wow do I miss them) tried.

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Same for Crazy Cajun and whatever the short-lived place in Wellborn where TX Burger is now located was called.

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I miss the fried gator from Crazy Cajuns. Not sure I got much else.

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AggiePhil said:

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FlyRod said:

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Cajun/Creole places have had it tough in this town. Hebert's tried. Crazy Cajun's (wow do I miss them) tried.

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Same for Crazy Cajun and whatever the short-lived place in Wellborn where TX Burger is now located was called.

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I miss the fried gator from Crazy Cajuns. Not sure I got much else.

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we always got the Lagniappe and split it 3 ways

MyNameIsJeff said:

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There was a barbecue place there briefly, too. I forgot about the Cajun place. I've heard it did so well that it overwhelmed the owner.

EDIT: Junek's Barbecue and Grill per 2009 Google street view. I don't remember if Cajun was before or after that.

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It was afterwards. Junek's was the original tenant there after moving out of the gas station. The current TX Burger is (checks notes) the 6th restaurant in the spot, Cajuns Bayou Grille was the 5th.

Chubby's BBQ was around there somewhere.

If only I could skate!

oklaunion said:

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Chubby's BBQ was around there somewhere.

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I liked Chubby's. AC went out.. Economics.

Semiconductor Institute at RELLIS gets more money. Projected opening January 2028.

https://wtaw.com/texas-am-system-board-of-regents-approve-increasing-the-budget-for-its-rellis-campus-semiconductor-institute/

Any news on the datacenter bankruptcy?

Seriously.

Not that I've seen. But then, I haven't been looking for it.

techno-ag said:

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Not that I've seen. But then, I haven't been looking for it.

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I was curious because I was told that the same company wanting to do the CS one was supposedly contracted to find a tenant for the RELLIS one.

techno-ag said:

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Semiconductor Institute at RELLIS gets more money. Projected opening January 2028.

https://wtaw.com/texas-am-system-board-of-regents-approve-increasing-the-budget-for-its-rellis-campus-semiconductor-institute/

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Good to hear

Hornbeck said:

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techno-ag said:

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Not that I've seen. But then, I haven't been looking for it.

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I was curious because I was told that the same company wanting to do the CS one was supposedly contracted to find a tenant for the RELLIS one.

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Curious. I think the data center that was under construction at Rellis was more along the lines of a "standard" data center, rather than one designed for AI or Crypto mining. I seriously doubt RELLIS would want anything to do with the latter two out there, given their noise level etc. I mean, it's right next to a bunch of other buildings with lots of people in them....

From what I understand, Priority Power doesn't just have their hands in crypto and AI. They were a power specialist, who has jumped into the datacenter speculation game that's all the rage.

MyNameIsJeff said:

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There was a barbecue place there briefly, too. I forgot about the Cajun place. I've heard it did so well that it overwhelmed the owner.

EDIT: Junek's Barbecue and Grill per 2009 Google street view. I don't remember if Cajun was before or after that.

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Crazy Cajuns relocated to College Station partially because the septic system in the existing little building didn't support as many customers as they were getting.

I was good friends with the Petitjeans back then. (Still am, just don't see them since they moved.)

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Hornbeck said:

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techno-ag said:

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Not that I've seen. But then, I haven't been looking for it.

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I was curious because I was told that the same company wanting to do the CS one was supposedly contracted to find a tenant for the RELLIS one.

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Curious. I think the data center that was under construction at Rellis was more along the lines of a "standard" data center, rather than one designed for AI or Crypto mining. I seriously doubt RELLIS would want anything to do with the latter two out there, given their noise level etc. I mean, it's right next to a bunch of other buildings with lots of people in them....

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Curious as to what you see as the difference between "standard data center" and AI or Crypto? Also, curious what you think is the source of the noise in a data center that would be different for a AI/Crypto vs "standard"? They all require lots of data connectivity, power (generally including backup power) and cooling.

The configuration of the computers inside would be different, but I would expect that to be supplied by the tenant.

Plenty of applications running on AWS (Amazon Web Services, presumably a "standard data center") need a lot of compute and are "in the cloud" precisely because they can scale the compute quickly to get an answer faster than doing it locally, even with the communication overhead.

So..........

So nothing happened. The experiment was a *success*.

BiochemAg97 said:

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Tailgate88 said:

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Hornbeck said:

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techno-ag said:

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Not that I've seen. But then, I haven't been looking for it.

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I was curious because I was told that the same company wanting to do the CS one was supposedly contracted to find a tenant for the RELLIS one.

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Curious. I think the data center that was under construction at Rellis was more along the lines of a "standard" data center, rather than one designed for AI or Crypto mining. I seriously doubt RELLIS would want anything to do with the latter two out there, given their noise level etc. I mean, it's right next to a bunch of other buildings with lots of people in them....

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Curious as to what you see as the difference between "standard data center" and AI or Crypto? Also, curious what you think is the source of the noise in a data center that would be different for a AI/Crypto vs "standard"? They all require lots of data connectivity, power (generally including backup power) and cooling.

The configuration of the computers inside would be different, but I would expect that to be supplied by the tenant.

Plenty of applications running on AWS (Amazon Web Services, presumably a "standard data center") need a lot of compute and are "in the cloud" precisely because they can scale the compute quickly to get an answer faster than doing it locally, even with the communication overhead.

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I don't have any in-person experience with AI/Crypto data centers, but I have a rack of servers in a data center in downtown Bryan, and you'd never know it was a data center from walking by it. You can't hear any noise coming from it, it just looks like a building. (Unless you happen to catch the weekly test of the generator on the roof.)

I also had some servers at a data center in Austin, on a street with 20 different data centers including some HUGE ones. I did not detect any excessive noise, pollution, or vibrations while driving down the mile or so to get to the one I was co-located in, and as with Bryan, walking up the stairs and into the reception area, I couldn't hear the noise from the pods.

And I still have some servers at a data center in Jackson Mississippi that is located in the basement of a building on a college campus - again, you'd never know it was there.

In contrast, there was plenty of personal testimony and news stories posted here in opposition to the proposed data center at Mid-Town because of noise/vibration/power usage issues. There were news stories of people living near "AI or Crypto" data centers around the USA with horror stories of excessive noise and mind-numbing vibrations that were maddening.

As you no doubt know, when a rack server is running at low utilization, it is relatively quiet. But they are designed with fans that can rev up to insane levels when the servers are working hard and getting hard. It is VERY loud inside the data center pods I have been in, My servers are production servers hosting a pretty good load of users, but they don't ever get crazy hot (I monitor them). But if I walk around in there, some of the servers are absolutely screaming.

As I understand it, AI servers and Crypto servers are running at maximum load 24x7x365. And there are a lot of them, and they are packed into dense racks. They are ALL screaming - all the time. Mining Crypto, answering AI problems...Apparently enough of them to cause noise loud enough to overcome whatever noise dampening technology they have in there, and to the point that it even causes a low "hum" that can be very disturbing to humans near by.

Finally, it seems AI and Crypto data centers need extraordinary power. I have heard nothing about the RELLIS data center that is currently in limbo requiring additional power to be brought in. And I know there was talk around town of people looking forward to having another place to co-lo servers etc, so I was under the impression that it was going to be a "standard" data center.

My comments were based on that, and I'm happy to be corrected if I got any of that wrong.

Fibertown!

AI is not going away. The driver won't be commercial but defense. Power supply is the bottleneck. Figure out what the plan is for the short term (1-10 yr) and the long term (10+) for the power and invest in it. It may go elsewhere early - but it will be everywhere long term.

The "AI is going to kill us all" thread is on the Plotics board.

YWIA.

OnlyForNow said:

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The "AI is going to kill us all" thread is on the Plotics board.

YWIA.

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Pardon?

As you know, the fans on the computers aren't causing the noise outside. The outside noise is primarily coming from external cooling and power sources.

Yes AI and crypto are compute heavy. There are other data centers that are also compute heavy. I guarantee there are some systems on campus that are running compute heavy modeling/simulations essentially 24/7. It is possible to operate a compute heavy data center at a smaller scale and/or more quietly, and it could be doing AI, crypto, or simulations and it wouldn't matter.

I don't think OpenAI, Google, or Microsoft are going to be AI tenants of the RELLIS data center. They benefit from scale. But there are smaller AI applications that aren't trying to run LLMs for everyone on the internet that could be deployed in smaller facilities.

But at the end of the day, if you are leasing data center space, you have an amount of power, cooling, data connectivity, and space that you have to work with and I don't think you really care what the use is, as long as it fits what is available.

EBrazosAg said:

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AI is not going away. The driver won't be commercial but defense. Power supply is the bottleneck. Figure out what the plan is for the short term (1-10 yr) and the long term (10+) for the power and invest in it. It may go elsewhere early - but it will be everywhere long term.

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Power solution is ultimately nuclear if politics gets out of the way. Low carbon and always on. Several large data centers have already struck deals to restart or expand existing nuclear facilities to provide power.

Since RELLIS is also going to provide space for several small modular reactor companies to deploy, prove, and ultimately provide commercial power in 5-10 years, you ultimately end up with significant power really close by to that data center.

I'd like to point out, there's a difference between a datacenter running varied workloads with servers, network equipment, and UPSes versus acres of GPUs, liquid cooled, crunching blockchain computations.

I've spent most of my life either working in, managing, or selling equipment to the former.

Mazda dealership is under new management. The Purdy Group? Kid noticed the sign on the way home from swim lessons.

Yes! Came to post this - saw it a few days ago. Had a banner with Purdy group and said under new mgt.

Also - did the Caprock er places get bought out? Saw some work being done on the roof of the one on fitch and believe I saw a signature care er van around the same time so assume they are taking over?

I believe they've been shut down for a year or so

aggies4life said:

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Yes! Came to post this - saw it a few days ago. Had a banner with Purdue group and said under new mgt.

Also - did the Caprock er places get bought out? Saw some work being done on the roof of the one on fitch and believe I saw a signature care er van around the same time so assume they are taking over?

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Yes, Signature Care is taking over the Caprock locations.