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I-10 about to get much worse for a long time

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The Gulf Freeway has been under constant construction since the 1960's.
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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Sea Speed said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Martin Q. Blank said:

Is this part of redoing I-45? Or are they going to do all of this again once that project kicks off?

No, this is separate from the I-45 project. The I-10 project is to raise I-10 out of the floodplain because it has flooded 10 times in the last 30 years.


Ok so it has been unusable say 30 days in the last thirty years if we give it 3 days for every flood event. This is going to make it practically unusable for probably a year, given historic construction trends. Even if we said 5 days per flooding event l, that only gets us 50 days of non use in the last 30 years. If we are going off strictly lack of use, it's going to take something like 150+ years to break even on the down time alone.

I'm sure the flooding causes some undue wear, but IIRC it's never been bad enough to close it down on a long term scale to address flood related damage.

I know this is simplifying it, but still.

Yeah, that.
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Serotonin said:

Y'all are complaining but it's going to be amazing once all the road construction around town is complete.

We should have little to no traffic in Houston starting in 2027 and beyond, so the massive short term pain will be worth it.

Are you new here? Or just high?
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Id imagine 610 and 59 will get worse. Id imagine 59 will get the Katy traffic. Cypress area will hit 610 or 8.

It is going to be bad.
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Im so happy I don't have to go downtown anymore. Same for my wife, boy that's going to blow.
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Its going to be gridlock on Louisiana Street trying to leave downtown in the afternoons. It's FUBAR'd when they reduced it to 3 lanes at the beginning on the year. Now they are planning to reduce the lanes down to 2 AND shutdown the HOV out of downtown, thus adding even more traffic. Its already hellish trying to escape downtown with traffic spilling onto Allen Parkway and Memorial.

Brilliant move TxDOT! I wish these idiots were forced to sit in this traffic.
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I'm probably going to have to sit through the entire West Loop now to go home every day.
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Please don't tell anyone about the HOV flyover ramp that goes from Studewoodish into downtown via Franklin/Washington (that's never monitored for single drivers).

90% of the traffic on that is Metro & cops going to the HPD facility by the courthouse.
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Coog97 said:

Been here for the entirety of my 52+ years... didn't always feel this way, but this city sucks.

There are more people now in the city proper (2.4MM) than there were in the entire metro area in 1975 (2.3MM). There are 217% more people in metro Houston today (8.3MM) than 1975. And that's assuming census numbers for the huge influx of noncitizens are accurately counted.

There are too many people here, and frankly, too many that don't fit/belong. Compound that with crime by that population that is intentionally going unpunished by subpar civic leaders...it's a recipe for not liking what has become of the city, even if some ITL neighborhoods no longer have bars on the windows.
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drumboy said:

Please don't tell anyone about the HOV flyover ramp that goes from Studewoodish into downtown via Franklin/Washington (that's never monitored for single drivers).

90% of the traffic on that is Metro & cops going to the HPD facility by the courthouse.

My understanding is that's going away, too.
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czechy91 said:

Its going to be gridlock on Louisiana Street trying to leave downtown in the afternoons. It's FUBAR'd when they reduced it to 3 lanes at the beginning on the year. Now they are planning to reduce the lanes down to 2 AND shutdown the HOV out of downtown, thus adding even more traffic. Its already hellish trying to escape downtown with traffic spilling onto Allen Parkway and Memorial.

Brilliant move TxDOT! I wish these idiots were forced to sit in this traffic.

And Travis to 45N is going to get worse, too, since that's the N Main/ Pecore route into the Heights.
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Ryan the Temp said:

drumboy said:

Please don't tell anyone about the HOV flyover ramp that goes from Studewoodish into downtown via Franklin/Washington (that's never monitored for single drivers).

90% of the traffic on that is Metro & cops going to the HPD facility by the courthouse.

My understanding is that's going away, too.

F***
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cryption said:

Serotonin said:

Y'all are complaining but it's going to be amazing once all the road construction around town is complete.

We should have little to no traffic in Houston starting in 2027 and beyond, so the massive short term pain will be worth it.

Are you new here? Or just high?

Either that or my sarcasm just isn't as good as it used to be.
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Serotonin said:

cryption said:

Serotonin said:

Y'all are complaining but it's going to be amazing once all the road construction around town is complete.

We should have little to no traffic in Houston starting in 2027 and beyond, so the massive short term pain will be worth it.

Are you new here? Or just high?

Either that or my sarcasm just isn't as good as it used to be.

Very likely my sarcasm detector needs calibration lol
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cajunaggie08 said:

Ryan the Temp said:

drumboy said:

Please don't tell anyone about the HOV flyover ramp that goes from Studewoodish into downtown via Franklin/Washington (that's never monitored for single drivers).

90% of the traffic on that is Metro & cops going to the HPD facility by the courthouse.

My understanding is that's going away, too.

F***

Yep that's part of the shutting down the HOV that I mentioned in my post. Its going to be a real killer since there are limited options. I will try to arrive and leave downtown earlier and/or WFH more often.
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If the HOV from downtown to I-10 is going away, it's not mentioned: https://www.txdot.gov/whiteoaki10/news-alerts/major-traffic-switch-begins-october-24-as-i10-white-oak-bayou-elevation-project-advances.html

HoV mentions are from 45 to 10.
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Aggie71013 said:

If the HOV from downtown to I-10 is going away, it's not mentioned: https://www.txdot.gov/whiteoaki10/news-alerts/major-traffic-switch-begins-october-24-as-i10-white-oak-bayou-elevation-project-advances.html

HoV mentions are from 45 to 10.

I read somewhere the current flyover will be demolished and rebuilt at a higher elevation.

ETA - From your link:
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This $400 million project will raise the elevation of the I-10 mainlanes above the floodplain of White Oak Bayou from Heights Boulevard to I-45 including the reconstruction of the I-10 HOV lanes, and reconstruction of the Houston Avenue Bridge.

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Ryan the Temp said:

TxDOT is a jobs program. Construction will never be complete. Hell, the West Loop/59 interchange has been completely rebuilt three times in the last 20 years.
this absolute truth hits hard.

TxDOT is also a vehicle to plant more people in Texas when none are needed. Pun partially intended.

It is disgusting and irresponsible to build more new roads throughout Texas.
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Serotonin said:

Y'all are complaining but it's going to be amazing once all the road construction around town is complete.

We should have little to no traffic in Houston starting in 2027 and beyond, so the massive short term pain will be worth it.


**** Sheila Jackson Lee! She delayed this project by 15 years.
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Serotonin said:

schmellba99 said:

Serotonin said:

Y'all are complaining but it's going to be amazing once all the road construction around town is complete.

We should have little to no traffic in Houston starting in 2027 and beyond, so the massive short term pain will be worth it.


This entire post makes me laugh.

And think about how gullible you are in real life.

TXDOT is clearly showing that these projects will wrap up by a certain date. With the negotiating leverage, resources and initiative of the government behind these projects they should probably finish ahead of schedule and under budget. It really is going to be a completely different driving experience around in Houston in 2028 and beyond...


My God, how many times were you dropped on your head as a toddler?
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Replace Baltimore with Houston. Different city, same story.
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They announced plans for this (without funding yet) in like 2014-2015. How is this new to anyone?

At least I'll be 50 and my kids will be late college/young professionals when it's maybe done!

Perhaps midtown will find a resurgence 20 years later!
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That makes sense. I thought the implication was it was closing on October 24th which doesn't seem to be the case.
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schmellba99 said:

Serotonin said:

schmellba99 said:

Serotonin said:

Y'all are complaining but it's going to be amazing once all the road construction around town is complete.

We should have little to no traffic in Houston starting in 2027 and beyond, so the massive short term pain will be worth it.


This entire post makes me laugh.

And think about how gullible you are in real life.

TXDOT is clearly showing that these projects will wrap up by a certain date. With the negotiating leverage, resources and initiative of the government behind these projects they should probably finish ahead of schedule and under budget. It really is going to be a completely different driving experience around in Houston in 2028 and beyond...


My God, how many times were you dropped on your head as a toddler?

How many times were you?
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Ryan the Temp said:

Aggie71013 said:

If the HOV from downtown to I-10 is going away, it's not mentioned: https://www.txdot.gov/whiteoaki10/news-alerts/major-traffic-switch-begins-october-24-as-i10-white-oak-bayou-elevation-project-advances.html

HoV mentions are from 45 to 10.

I read somewhere the current flyover will be demolished and rebuilt at a higher elevation.

ETA - From your link:
Quote:

This $400 million project will raise the elevation of the I-10 mainlanes above the floodplain of White Oak Bayou from Heights Boulevard to I-45 including the reconstruction of the I-10 HOV lanes, and reconstruction of the Houston Avenue Bridge.



Dang....well hopefully they have HOV/Managed lanes all the way as opposed to how it ends before 610 now. And improvements to Park & Ride would be nice; I'd use it if it worked for the reverse commute.
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It's all a ploy to drive up Metro ridership!
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I Am A Critic said:

Coog97 said:

Been here for the entirety of my 52+ years... didn't always feel this way, but this city sucks.

I-10 runs both ways.

Doesn't sound like it will running much for the next few years.


I drive downtown to Memorial every day. I hate this project so much and have not seen anyone give a good answer to why it was needed. We'll see how bad this gets.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Oof ...

Starting October 24th, I-10 is going to be reduced to two lanes in each direction between Taylor Street and Downtown. The connections from I-45 south to I-10 west and from I-10 to I-45 north will be closed. This is expected to last into the middle of next year.

Where are seeing that eastbound will be reduced to 2 lanes? The only thing I see on that is the connection to 45 North will be closed.
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CowtownAg06 said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Oof ...

Starting October 24th, I-10 is going to be reduced to two lanes in each direction between Taylor Street and Downtown. The connections from I-45 south to I-10 west and from I-10 to I-45 north will be closed. This is expected to last into the middle of next year.

Where are seeing that eastbound will be reduced to 2 lanes? The only thing I see on that is the connection to 45 North will be closed.

Ummm, right there in the first sentence.
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from the link.....

Significant progress is being made as we continue advancing through phase 1 of the I-10 White Oak Bayou elevation project. Beginning Friday October 24 construction crews will implement a major traffic switch that will reduce the I-10 westbound mainlanes between I-45 North Freeway and Houston Ave to two lanes of traffic which will remain close until an estimated mid-2026.
This closure is necessary to complete the construction of the new elevated westbound mainlanes, which will overlap the footprint of the existing westbound mainlanes. Currently, on I-10 westbound between I-45 and Studemont Street, the lanes are reduced to three lanes, while the I-45 northbound connector ramp to I-10 westbound is reduced to a single lane of traffic.
Other major travel impacts:
  • Total closure of the I-45 Southbound Direct Connector to I-10 Westbound, including the HOV lane, estimated to re-open mid-2026. This connector will be fully closed to allow for its removal and reinstallation at the new elevated height.
  • Total closure of the I-10 Eastbound Direct Connector to I-45 Northbound, estimated to last through project completion in mid-2028. This direct connector weaves over the existing westbound mainlanes, under the existing HOV, and will be rebuilt similarly through the proposed bridges. The construction will be completed in phases throughout the entirety of the project.
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Quote:

from the link.....

Significant progress is being made as we continue advancing through phase 1 of the I-10 White Oak Bayou elevation project. Beginning Friday October 24 construction crews will implement a major traffic switch that will reduce the I-10 westbound mainlanes between I-45 North Freeway and Houston Ave to two lanes of traffic which will remain close until an estimated mid-2026.
This closure is necessary to complete the construction of the new elevated westbound mainlanes, which will overlap the footprint of the existing westbound mainlanes. Currently, on I-10 westbound between I-45 and Studemont Street, the lanes are reduced to three lanes, while the I-45 northbound connector ramp to I-10 westbound is reduced to a single lane of traffic.
Other major travel impacts:
  • Total closure of the I-45 Southbound Direct Connector to I-10 Westbound, including the HOV lane, estimated to re-open mid-2026. This connector will be fully closed to allow for its removal and reinstallation at the new elevated height.
  • Total closure of the I-10 Eastbound Direct Connector to I-45 Northbound, estimated to last through project completion in mid-2028. This direct connector weaves over the existing westbound mainlanes, under the existing HOV, and will be rebuilt similarly through the proposed bridges. The construction will be completed in phases throughout the entirety of the project.


Not sure on eastbound.....
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I think this was the reason for the question....."the first sentence" was a post from RTT, not a link or article.
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What am I missing here? RTT said that I10 was going down to 2 lanes in both directions. The link only mentions westbound being reduced (to 2 from 3). It sucks either way, but if the eastbound stays as is, at least mornings will be doable.
 
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