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Sounds like a plan. I'll see you there.
The person that is not willing to fight and die, if need be, for his country has no right to life.

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Waltonloads08 said:

Currently posting from an alcoholic rehab facility near Houston.

One more day and I am at 60 days. May not seem like a big deal, but I haven't gone 60 days since I was 16.

172 lbs / 5' 10" and was drinking a fifth+ of tequila a night and 8-10+ sutter home chardonnay during the day at work to physically function. Addiction really sucks. Tried several times to detox on my own, but had symptoms of DT's, (Delirium tremens) and had to drink before I started to seize. Medical detoxed for 9 days.

Finished 12 steps last week and led my first AA meeting tonight. will complete treatment at the end of next week. Going through a divorce soon, but committed to staying sober and have built a support network for when I get out.

If you know you cannot quit drinking due to withdrawals, DM me and I can tell you who to call for help. I know you are scared, but there is a way out.




Proud of you. I am 3,425 days today. It's a journey.
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See you at 7.

Black Patagonia jacket and military haircut.
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An honor to meet Jim at tonight's AA meeting. I truly appreciate you for being present. Means a lot to me
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Aggie Therapist said:

Thanks for sharing this. Thanks for being vulnerable.

Sounds like they hit you with the big book pretty good!

I was in rehab last October/Nov. one of the best decisions I've ever made in life. I'm sure you are well aware, but make the arrangements now before you like the pink cloud/bubble. Setttling in back to normal life can be hard for some.


totally agree. for me its working a program and keeping community.
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Thanks!

10 years soon, wow!
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GeorgiAg said:

I've been to AA a few times in the past and it's not something that worked for me.

Did Dryuary last year for about 60 days. I told myself I had shown control and was good. Started out with beer, then fell back into the Vodka.

started this Dryuary last November or so and I'm at 75 days today. I know I can't go back.

One of my motivations is I've told myself I DONT have to go to AA as long as I don't drink. But my new rule is that if I start up again, I will have to go. It's a weird motivation, but it is working so far. I hated the AA meetings I've been to. I don't want to sit around and listen to people talk about how they F'ed up their life. Plus I'm not religious so that aspect of AA does not work for me.


Congratulations on your progress and willingness to want to get better. I have no need or desire to defend AA, as I believe it is A path to recovery and not THE path to recovery. I embrace that it's not for everyone and can be a lot to digest or commit too. The home group I walked into also made all the difference for me….in my first weeks/months AA was just the people in the room and their words and behavior meant everything to me. That perspective, of course, drastically changes with a little time and willingness.

I do want to comment on a couple things, in the event others are struggling and are hopeful that AA is an option for them.

* AA is "religious" -
I believe the complete opposite to be true. I think the most unique thing about AA is how it helps folks (like me), who have fought religion their whole lives, find a path to a simple understanding of and contact with something that is more spiritually relevant/powerful than they are. I believe most people find their way into AA as agnostics or atheists. I had no need for anything bigger than myself and refused to look for new ideas and ways of living. I could finally see where that got me. And, as most probably know, there is an entire chapter of the literature on this exact subject titled "We Agnostics". The people in AA didn't need or want anything from me. My sponsor asked me if "i was WILLING to believe that MAYBE JUST MAYBE there is something out there that is more spiritually bad ass then I was". Saying "yes" to that simple request wasn't easy but i found the willingness and that's all it took to start taking some small steps to changing my thinking and making my life easier.

* listen to people who talk about effing up their lives -
There is no question that this occurs and can be off putting. Does this dynamic not exist in any group environment with imperfect humans that aren't forced to follow any specific rules? However, that is not the pattern that the program teaches and what it believes helps get us sober. It advocates sharing one's "experience, strength and hope"……what we were like before, what we did and how our lives look now…the good and the bad. We ought to share on what the SOLUTION was for us. Most can't go a meeting without becoming agitated over the way somebody is sharing. But that's been part of the learning experience for me. The program helped me change my way of thinking around this….my sobriety is not dependent on what that person does or says…shockingly, they didn't come to the meeting for ME….I may only have 7 days sober but there is a chance that the individual sharing is suffering more than me, my presence alone may be helping them get sober and adjust their way of thinking and sharing.

Again, i do not know what is best for anybody as it relates to their sobriety. I'm not looking to debate or defend. Just some personal perspective one way that's worked for many. Appreciate this thread and all of you who are just trying to be better.
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GeorgiAg said:

I've been to AA a few times in the past and it's not something that worked for me.

Did Dryuary last year for about 60 days. I told myself I had shown control and was good. Started out with beer, then fell back into the Vodka.

started this Dryuary last November or so and I'm at 75 days today. I know I can't go back.

One of my motivations is I've told myself I DONT have to go to AA as long as I don't drink. But my new rule is that if I start up again, I will have to go. It's a weird motivation, but it is working so far. I hated the AA meetings I've been to. I don't want to sit around and listen to people talk about how they F'ed up their life. Plus I'm not religious so that aspect of AA does not work for me.
I'm rooting for you. The first 30 days were the toughest for me, but something switched for me mentally around month 9.

My sister kept telling me "it gets easier" and she was right.

I hired a private counselor that specializes in rehab and she taught me a new way to think. Rewiring your brain takes time. We hire specialists for plumbing, electrical, tax accounting, etc. Invest in yourself and hire someone to help in this arena as well.

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Sounds like you are a very pleasant patient.

Good work brother! Take care of yourself.
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GeorgiAg
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Thank you. 81 days. Longest non-drinking period since I was 16 years old.

I probably will look for an online support group, because I know that helps.

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You are already in an online support group here! But whatever works best for you. Go do it!

Day 407!
Waltonloads08
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75 days today, you are ahead of me and I am happy for us both! Life if much better without -having- to drink alcohol. What a chore to have to manage such a thing.
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Congratulations sir.

Such an accurate description…exhausting!
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Great job! It's a battle that is worth fighting. May God bless you on your journey.
GeorgiAg
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95 days.

Looking at you, triple digits!
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Welcome back!

It takes 90 days to break a habit. Congratulations!
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A good friend of mine has fallen off the wagon and isn't responding well to my advice. I've been where he is and am now 4 yrs clean and sober. His wife asked if I knew of a therapist to help him. My therapist has moved away and I don't know of any I can recommend. It's never a good time to be an alcoholic, but his mother in law is dying of cancer and he's not there when his wife needs him the most. Any recommendations on a San Antonio therapist?
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Starlight in Kerrville or Laural Ridge here in SA are places to consider.
The person that is not willing to fight and die, if need be, for his country has no right to life.

James Earl Rudder '32
January 31, 1945
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100 days, 25 lbs.
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BOOM heck yes
GeorgiAg
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Can you tell when I quit?


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2/26/91....2/26/25

By the grace of God and the fellowship of AA, I have 34 years today.
The person that is not willing to fight and die, if need be, for his country has no right to life.

James Earl Rudder '32
January 31, 1945
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GeorgiAg said:

95 days.

Looking at you, triple digits!


Well done
P.U.T.U
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Just completed 6 months, several business meetings/conferences, bachelor parties, few work events at bars, and never felt tempted.
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Question for y'all

And I apologize, I'm sure this has been discussed in this thread, but I do not do well with these mega threads. I can't sidt through 1000+ posts to see if and how this was discussed

Again, apologies

So the issue that everybody on this thread has faced, the adjustment in social life, and roster of friends

If you have an active social life that involves alcohol, going from the drunken "life of the party" to stone cold sober can be daunting. Not only the fear of losing friends, but ACTUALLY losing social playmates. Those who may not call as much, or stop altogether, because you are not participating in the fun in the way everybody else is

What are your experiences?

How did you deal with that fear?

How did you deal with ACTUALLY losing the friends and the social life you once had?

Thanks in advance
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Welcome Captain!
I feel that if someone is a true friend and they want the best for you, that you can be who you strive to be and stop the circle. I found out real quick who my true friends were. Easy test, if you let someone know your changing your life for the best and they don't reply with "congratulations " or "good for you". Then they don't care about you. They care more about the chaos that drinking brings.
I took myself out of the environment and dispensed of those people. Over 4 years ago and I don't regret it a bit. Do what's best for you and your family not what's best for the social scene.
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My wife and I still go out with people, we just don't drink alcohol.

If you only hang out with someone when everyone is drinking and they don't want to hang out with you when you are not drinking they are not your friend, just an acquaintance. Sure there are people that you no longer hang out with but that is their loss. There have been people that I would go drink with before I stopped and now I don't like being around them when they do drink.

We don't go out to bars nearly as much anymore as well, not much point. I have to go to bars for work stuff and the majority carry non-alcoholic options which I am more than happy with. I used to think people would care about me not drinking but no one really does. Plus they have a DD so even better for them.

I am a very black and white person, if you don't add value to my life I don't want to hang out with you. If you need help I will gladly do whatever I can but if you are going to keep trying to pull me into your drama filled life then don't bother. My wife has a lot of friends that tried to pull her back for a while but she rarely talks to them anymore. When you take a step back and realize what is going on you will want no part in that.

My circle of friends has shrunk for sure but the ones I am still friends with are even closer friends now. We still have game nights or go to bars for trivia night and have fun. Best part is the next morning not worrying about if you did anything stupid and wake up hangover free. If something is not fun unless you are drunk then it is not fun to begin with. You may find new things that you decide to do.

One thing rarely mentioned on here is when you open up about your sobriety there will be more people than you think open up about their struggles. Pay it forward and help them go through the process.

I would say start with 30 days and take it day by day. You will notice your health will improve and so will your sleep.
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Welcome. I'm still a newbie, 108 days.

PUTU had great comments on that, and I second what he said.

If you go out, tell the bartender you are the DD and order a soda or coke with lime on the side and a straw. It looks exactly the same as a drink. You don't even have to tell anyone you are not drinking. One of my favorite drinks before was a vodka, soda, lime so no one had any idea I wasn't drinking. I had one situation with a "friend" - guy who was gonna be an ass about it and I told the bartender ahead of time - so she new when I ordered another round that it was sans alcohol. He never knew. After a few drinks, he was slobbering drunk anyway.

I've only noticed one other person, a work colleague, who has had an issue with it. But I think this speaks about him and his relationship with alcohol more than about me. Seriously why would anyone care that you are not drinking? If they do, it is because they want to feel better about themselves and their drinking habits. I will go out on a limb and state that there has never been a sober person annoyed that someone around them is NOT drinking.

My drinking buddies are fine with it now because they have a permanent DD. The hardcore drunk that I mentioned earlier - I don't hang around him anymore. Slobbering drunks are obnoxious.

Once you start seeing the other benefits you won't care. Sleep, weight, money. I'm 30 lbs lighter, and I don't give a F what anyone thinks anymore. Feels great.
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Also, you can have excuses. Weight loss - doing a strict diet/workout regimen, getting over a cold, just got over a stomach bug, gave up alcohol for lent, taking medicine where you can't have alcohol, got an early morning meeting with President Trump and Vlad Putin in the morning to discuss Ukraine, etc...
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GeorgiAg said:

Also, you can have excuses. Weight loss - doing a strict diet/workout regimen, getting over a cold, just got over a stomach bug, gave up alcohol for lent, taking medicine where you can't have alcohol, got an early morning meeting with President Trump and Vlad Putin in the morning to discuss Ukraine, etc...


Yep
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Thanks for the replies, all

I think I saw somewhere in this thread that someone was looking for an online recovery aid

This one is supposed to be pretty good
Dr. Daniel Hochman, MD, Austin, Tx
https://www.selfrecovery.org/

Also "This Naked Mind", book by Annie Grace
https://thisnakedmind.com/

Just additional resources if anyone is interested
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Captain, do you or someone you know have experience with this online recovery outfit? I've got a friend that is about to lose his family and he's trying to quit on his own. A second time. Wondering if I should send this link and maybe he'll look into it.
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AGpops1923 said:

Captain, do you or someone you know have experience with this online recovery outfit? I've got a friend that is about to lose his family and he's trying to quit on his own. A second time. Wondering if I should send this link and maybe he'll look into it.


Sorry. I do not have experience personally. A friend of mine told me about it, and I think he had not done the program, but the program was highly recommended. It is apparently an alternative to the 12 step type programs.

I think they have some sort of deal where you can try it for a month, and if you don't like it, quit and get your money back

The Dr also has a brick and mortar psychiatry practice, I believe
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AGpops1923 said:

Captain, do you or someone you know have experience with this online recovery outfit? I've got a friend that is about to lose his family and he's trying to quit on his own. A second time. Wondering if I should send this link and maybe he'll look into it.


If the guy is that far in he needs to see a medical doctor. They have prescriptions that raise the chance of staying sober from around 20% to 80-90%. It makes it so your body doesn't the alcohol the same so you can get drunk. Combining that with some kind of recovery plan is his best bet
 
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