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According to spurs fans, they have the best coach and best power forward ever, the best point guard in the league, one of the best passing shooting guards ever, and one of the deepest benches ever, yet they got bounced in the first round the last two playoffs. What gives?

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You are making stuff up. I did not make stuff up.

Very few (if anyone) has made an outright claim that Parker is the best point guard in the league, like Simple does about Bynum. Everyone knows that Duncan, while still very good, is well past his prime. Manu can't play the minutes he once could.

Kobe, while on the beginning of his downhill slide, is still just 33. The Lakers are healthy, which has not been true of the Spurs the previous two playoffs.

According to spurs fans, they have the
best coach: yes
best power forward ever: true, but he has been battling nagging injuries for years
best point guard in the league: top 5 doesn't mean best, but nice hyperbole
one of the best passing shooting guards ever: who has been injured the last couple years
one of the deepest benches ever: not until halfway through THIS season, which isn't exactly applicable to the 2010 and 2011 playoffs
...yet they got bounced in the first round the last two playoffs. What gives?

You didn't think this through very well, that's what gives.

[This message has been edited by Ulrich (edited 5/21/2012 10:48a).]

There have been spurs fans who say that tony parker is better than Chris Paul, Derrick rose, Russell westbrook, rajon rondo, etc.

If he's better than those guys and more of a winner, then isn't he the best?

This isn't the same team as the last couple years......

Spurs got bounced in the first round last year with Manu playing with a broken arm.

The year before the Spurs knocked out the 2 seed Dallas Mavericks as a 7 seed.

Pay attention sport.

Danny Green
Gary Neal
Kawhi Leonard
Boris Diaw
Stephen Jackson
Tiago Splitter

are all guys who were not on this Spurs team a couple years ago/last season.

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There have been spurs fans who say that tony parker is better than Chris Paul, Derrick rose, Russell westbrook, rajon rondo, etc.

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Can you please quote (and link) a Spurs poster that says Parker is the best pg in the league? If you can't, then admit that you are making crap up.

Hotard, please try to keep up. You are embarrassing us all.

A lot was made of the busy Staples center this weekend, but it really wasn't a very good weekend for LA.


Saturday:

Game 3, Spurs vs. Clippers (Clippers lost)

Game 4, OKC vs. Lakers (Lakers lost)

Sunday:
Game 4, LA Kings' vs Phoenix Coyotes (Kings Lost)

Game 4, Spurs vs. Clippers (Clippers lost)

Is anyone watching game 5?

For me, the lakers are tough to watch. Bynum has incredible talent but is such a lazy careless POS. ive also never seen a team give up so many free points. If the thunder have a step on someone they just let them fly to the lane.

It really feels like I'm watching a team full of halfassers and then Kobe just wanting to shoot literally every shot.

Terrible calls here.

Dont matter. Lakers done

Kobe is ballin tonight.

not a flagrant foul.

Unbelivably bad calls here. FLAGRANT??

[This message has been edited by simplebay (edited 5/21/2012 9:53p).]

Reputation got him that call. That was a good hard foul.

Terrible call(s). And terrible composure

Really bad call by refs

I won't comment on the rest of your *****ing on the refs, but that was bad. However, the techs were justified.

If artest wasn't such an ass, he wouldn't be called for a flagrant there.

Twitter is blowing uo. Not sure ive seen suh unanimous.opposition to a call this playoffs

Generally refs in the nba give u leeway to protest a bad call.

Total momentum killer. Not game changer....but could be

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That was a good hard foul.

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I wouldnt even say it was a hard foul.

But yeah..reputation definitely got him that call. Something was cooking with both him and Bryant in the last 2 minutes...Harden was aggravating both, I knew something was going to break out. Too bad it was the idiotic refs that went overboard and not a full blown brawl which I was hoping would happen.

I'm following along on gametracker...wtf just happened?

and chuck says the same thing. Not even a hard foul.

That....seriously....could have been a jump ball, or definitely a no call.

Lord almighty. TNT crew hated it. Even notorious laker hater Chuck

I thought the right hand got the ball clean, but I want to see the left hand again because that looked like it pushed him to the ground.


Had that been D.Wade, it would have been a charge call.

Not real bad but the left arm going out like the was pushing and his rep got it for him.

Tough to tell how much of a shove he got away with the left hand, one angle its barely at all, another looks like a legitimate push.

Of course it was a reputation call. Which by definition of the rule makes it a completely horrible call

Lakers are getting screwed and somehow still in it. Oh right Kobe

Yeah I don't think there was much of anything on the left arm but it looked like it in real time. At least that is what I thought the flagrant was for when I watched it live. Bad call but I hate him so I'm ok with it.

Hell Kobe shoulda been on the bench with 3 fouls that whole 2nd quarter (if you want to play the refs card)

Its very obvious Lakers can hang with Thunder, Thunder can hang with Lakers - difference has been last few minutes or so. Who closes and how. Lakers are 2 shots.from being up 3-1

That being said....thunder will win this game by 8

I'm starting to think this team is having a playoffs like the 94 rockets.

Kobe with the Dirk shot

I'll see simple's hedge and raise...

This is going back to staples, thunder lose by 6

Kobe still.amazing. ho hum. Shockering.

However....when...west...brick?....is hitting that midrange pullup shot as he has all series, hes damn near unstoppable. Anddd Harden is going off.

If im the spurs...i figure out how to game plan against westbrook. He would eat parker alive. For him to try be the man, and make those shots

Pahdz this is actually not a hedge or an anti jinx for once. The lakers should be up 3-1. They were less clutch. Theres no coming back from that mentally. Any amount of money u want says its over tonight.

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Wow westbrook