Pendragon12 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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Enzo The Baker said:

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The fact that Marco is getting minutes ahead of Walker is egregious. Marco is a corpse on defense especially in transition. In addition to the turnovers last night, our defense was pretty bad.

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It's not even surprising to me. Pop's always been a 'culture/korporate knowledge' guy, over youth.

It's ridiculous at this point that Marco is taking minutes like this though. Marco should be someone you put in and if he hits his first couple of shots you keep him in. If not, he gets pulled right away. Because he's a turnstyle defensively and if he's not putting the ball in the hoop at the offensive end, he's not doing jack to help.

But Pop would rather soap box about Trump these days than take a hard look at what's left of the old guard and what they contribute.

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This is a bad, lazy take.

Marco demands defenders to stay close to him along the perimeter. He moves constantly off the ball on offense, and does so very well. By being Marco, he creates much needed space for others to operate.

Does that make him a net positive when he's not hitting? No. But the spacing is likely better right now with Marco on the floor than Lonnie, because Lonnie is another mid range guy. Lonnie is important to our future, absolutely, and I expect he will get some minutes and potentially relegate Marco to the bench/spot up minutes by season's end, but Marco has a purpose right now that Lonnie can't fulfill.

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Enzo The Baker said:

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Maybe Pop will start to use White and Murray together towards the end of the games for now. It makes sense if we want to make stops. Their defense against Beal at the end was beautiful and maybe a sign of things to come. It would just be an awkward fit with them and DeMar (who found a grove tonight).

I thought walker looked good on offense but defensively he looked meh, fouling a player for an And 1 after getting beat off the dribble. Another occasion he gambled after a steal that led to a switch with LMA on a smaller guard, which led to a three for the Wizards. But in both of these instances it's just discipline he has to learn. I'd still like for him to get these minutes. He can really shove it down the other teams' throat, especially with DJ.

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Enzo The Baker said:

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Maybe Pop will start to use White and Murray together towards the end of the games for now. It makes sense if we want to make stops. Their defense against Beal at the end was beautiful and maybe a sign of things to come. It would just be an awkward fit with them and DeMar (who found a grove tonight).

I thought walker looked good on offense but defensively he looked meh, fouling a player for an And 1 after getting beat off the dribble. Another occasion he gambled after a steal that led to a switch with LMA on a smaller guard, which led to a three for the Wizards. But in both of these instances it's just discipline he has to learn. I'd still like for him to get these minutes. He can really shove it down the other teams' throat, especially with DJ.

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Enzo The Baker said:

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Maybe Pop will start to use White and Murray together towards the end of the games for now. It makes sense if we want to make stops. Their defense against Beal at the end was beautiful and maybe a sign of things to come. It would just be an awkward fit with them and DeMar (who found a grove tonight).

I thought walker looked good on offense but defensively he looked meh, fouling a player for an And 1 after getting beat off the dribble. Another occasion he gambled after a steal that led to a switch with LMA on a smaller guard, which led to a three for the Wizards. But in both of these instances it's just discipline he has to learn. I'd still like for him to get these minutes. He can really shove it down the other teams' throat, especially with DJ.

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AG 2000' said:

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Marco's averaging 28% shooting and two points per game. And gives us nothing defensively. Teams are daring him to shoot. I stand by my earlier remarks there - give his minutes to Lonnie if he misses his first two shots in a game.

And come on guys. I don't think Pop's focusing on politics at the detriment of prep time for the team. At the same time, when it's clear our team needs work, and there's obvious personnel and strategy type things he could be improving on, I think he just needs to shut up and coach. Especially when he's pulling a LeBron and giving China a reach around while talking trash about Trump.

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azulAg said:

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i blame trump /s

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azulAg said:

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did you not see the " /s "

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Aggie_3 said:

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How in the hell can I not watch this game on tv when I live in San Antonio

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Pendragon12 said:

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Aggie_3 said:

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How in the hell can I not watch this game on tv when I live in San Antonio

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Is it not on FSSW?

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Sports-Ag said:

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First half Portland was hitting everything and the Spurs were struggling. Murray played good defense on Lillard but didn't play down the stretch for minutes restriction. Can't wait until Murray can play longer and finish the games.

Also, Murray is putting up good all around numbers for the limited minutes he is playing.

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• Derrick White seems like he's on the road back to being last season Derrick White. He was aggressive, assertive, and crafty getting to the rim.
• DeMar had a fantastic game save the 2 last FTs. Pop probably should have brought him back in sooner when we couldn't buy a bucket in the 4th and Portland went on their comeback.
• LA had a really, really strong game defending the post in my opinion. I think he ended with 5 blocks? I also thought he was pretty solid with his PnR defense (or at least better than usual).
• We beat a WC team. It wasn't pretty. We maybe should have lost, but I would argue they should have too...both teams came back after being down big and made it a 1 possession game at the end. I'll take any win against the West, especially against Dame and CJ.
• Murray is disruptive on defense, very disruptive. I think if he isn't on a minutes restriction, there's a good chance Lilliard never gets going and we don't all feel like we suffered heart attacks last night.

• We can't run a fast break well to save our lives. That HAS to improve. We should have plenty of opportunities with DJ and DW manning our back court.
• Murray's control needs work. He's young, hungry, aggressive, and riding high on being back playing basketball, but he's our point guard and he has to play smarter offensively. If we are more successful on 50% of our fast breaks, I think we blow Portland out. I still think he could easily be dominant and a borderline All Star this season, but last night is the bad with DJ. He can't have those nights.
• Inconsistency continues to plague us. I firmly believe that if we stay focused for 48 mins/game, we can beat anyone and make a run in the playoffs. We have talent, we have coaching, but we need to play smarter and with more focus for entire games.
• The refs sucked. Both sides. We got calls we shouldn't have gotten. They got calls they shouldn't have gotten. I have no idea what a foul is anymore after last night.