*****OFFICIAL 2019-2020 Houston Rockets*****

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Simmons is 24 years old. He is an elite defender and if he had a decent jump shot he would be a top 10 player in the league.

He's already in the top 15-ish area. Not sure what you're talking about.
He's a soft big guy who can't shoot. He's also not a fit with Wall. For a team that believes in the 3 and already has a PG who can't shoot, he makes no sense. Rather get Herro and Duncan Robinson.
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Cousins looks like he's in great shape! Playing well to start
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Boogie looks...good???
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

Boogie looks...good???
Hope he can stay healthy. He's got loads of talent.
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Nice seeing Gerald Green back out there and playing well
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CFTXAG10 said:

Nice seeing Gerald Green back out there and playing well

Still shoots every time he has the ball.
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What explanation does Harden have for wanting to be traded to the East other than he knows he can't be the #1 and he's scared of LeBron?
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Jesus, save some for the regular season
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Random thoughts:

It's really interesting watching the Rockets play offense without a rigid set of outcomes. There is a bright side of no Harden.

I really like this Tate kid. He is built like a brick wall.

Nwaba seems useful as a defender.

Coboclo might be playing the game of his life.

Boogie and Wall look great

I think the team is trying to send a message to James.
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What's the deal with Wood?
Harry Dunne
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Sore elbow, minor issue. Back next game.
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MaxPower said:

Good Poster said:

Simmons is 24 years old. He is an elite defender and if he had a decent jump shot he would be a top 10 player in the league.

He's already in the top 15-ish area. Not sure what you're talking about.
He's a soft big guy who can't shoot. He's also not a fit with Wall. For a team that believes in the 3 and already has a PG who can't shoot, he makes no sense. Rather get Herro and Duncan Robinson.
Is 4th in DPOY voting soft? Is he softer than Harden?
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Harry Dunne said:

MaxPower said:

Good Poster said:

Simmons is 24 years old. He is an elite defender and if he had a decent jump shot he would be a top 10 player in the league.

He's already in the top 15-ish area. Not sure what you're talking about.
He's a soft big guy who can't shoot. He's also not a fit with Wall. For a team that believes in the 3 and already has a PG who can't shoot, he makes no sense. Rather get Herro and Duncan Robinson.
Is 4th in DPOY voting soft? Is he softer than Harden?
Haha literally everything is wrong with what Max said. No sentence makes sense.
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No fans for Mavs to start the year. Wouldn't be surprised if Rockets do the same.
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No the rockets are having fans.
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YNWA_AG said:

No the rockets are having fans.
as of now
Harry Dunne
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CFTXAG10 said:

Cousins looks like he's in great shape! Playing well to start
I love his postgame quote for a lot of reasons:

Boogie said:

"It shows that it's still a really good team here, regardless of the circumstances that are floating around the team right now. It's still a really good team in place, a lot of talent. We're not rolling over because a few pieces are missing. We're going to go out and perform. Hopefully, those pieces join us and we continue to improve as a team."

Wood will be back. This was directed at Harden and Tucker. First of all it's awesome that he refers to Harden and Tucker as "pieces"...and I don't think it's meant to be pejorative. Obviously Cousins and Wall have to prove they are healthy, but both these are guys that have been multiple-time all-stars and 2nd and 3rd team All-NBA guys that have been the best player on bad teams. Even without Harden this is the best team Wall has ever been on and Cousins has played 16 minutes per game in a total of 8 playoff games so you can image that they are pumped up to be on this team. Harden has had a bunch of quotes about "needing more pieces", so he shouldn't be offended and I love that we are considering him another piece of the puzzle just like everyone else.

Also Tucker can GTFO with being upset about his contract status. Harden's entitlement is rubbing off. Look Tucker is great in ways that we all know about and it's easy to root for his blue collar background and his gritty underdog style. I have always been a fan. It's also hard to find a tough humble guy who will know his role and stay in his lane and that has been essential on these Harden teams where James is hogging the oxygen. That said...

Tucker is a 35 year-old role player and he has played his role well, but how in the world can he be shocked that the organization wants to play this year out see how it goes?

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If he wants the East Coast so bad, trade him to the Kicks. Would love to see Harden under the NYC media scrutiny.
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Think he can veto a trade
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Aggie09Derek said:

Think he can veto a trade
Not a single player in the NBA has a no-trade clause right now.

But Harden could ***** out like Kawhi and just not show up if he didn't like where he was sent.

A few players that signed a 1y trade can veto a trade.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/12/nba-players-who-can-veto-trades-in-202021.html
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Thanks for heads up

Basically Harden could Veto it essentailly due to next year being his last year on his deal (yearr after is a players option); and no one would trade away needed assets to get him to have an unhappy star that would be demanding a trade right away and would only be under contract through next year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/james-harden-6312/
MaxPower
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I'm seeing Heat pick up steam. Herro, Duncan Robinson, Nunn, Iguodala, Olynyk and a first or two is the rumor. I'd definitely do that deal. Get some young guys who bring energy and can shoot. Nunn and Duncan Robinson are great stories, the kind of guys you have to root for and play with a chip on their shoulder. Herro is a potential star (prolly not superstar) but at least you know he will bring it in the playoffs. Olynyk is also underrated as a 5 who can shoot. Not sure where he fits here. Maybe you move Tucker and go with Wood at the 4 and Boogie/Olynyk at the 5?
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Lol what is so great about Nunn's story? Besides being a 5* HS prospect who got arrested and convicted for assault on a woman. Yea, impossible to root against that.
MaxPower
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Lol what is so great about Nunn's story? Besides being a 5* HS prospect who got arrested and convicted for assault on a woman. Yea, impossible to root against that.
Didn't realize that. I was referring to going undrafted and carving out a role for himself.
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Haha and there's a very good (bad) reason he went undrafted
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No thanks on Nunn

JAG

That deal is just a bunch of pieces - rockets would be on losing end of that deal for sure unless Herro becomes a true star.
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John Wall looks fast and Boogie is also moving well. They look good on the floor together.
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M.C. Swag said:

Lol what is so great about Nunn's story? Besides being a 5* HS prospect who got arrested and convicted for assault on a woman. Yea, impossible to root against that.
IIRC the conviction was for pushing her and pouring water on her. It was never even claimed or alleged by the victim that he beat her. Make of that what you will. Still not a good look, but not a Ray Rice situation or anything like that.
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I don't think it's illegal to pour water on anyone's head.
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M.C. Swag said:

I don't think it's illegal to pour water on anyone's head.
Sure it isn't, but I did say he shoved her, and that was what the victim claimed and what he was convicted for. All-world male athlete pushing a lady probably ain't gonna end well.

I'm not arguing that he's innocent or a good guy or falsely accused, I'm just saying this doesn't put him in blacklisted outcast Ray Rice type territory.
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I am not high on Herro. He is plenty good, but I don't think he's going to be a star. I don't think he'll ever be an overall better player than Ben Simmons is today.
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Harry Dunne said:

I am not high on Herro. He is plenty good, but I don't think he's going to be a star. I don't think he'll ever be an overall better player than Ben Simmons is today.
Agree

Defintely could end up being better, but doubtful. Hell maybe Ben Simmons finally learns to shoot and is a top 5 player in the league.
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If it were me, I'd only deal to miami for Bam Bam. That kid is special. Herro could be really good, but I'd try to extract Bam and I'd be willing to risk losing Herro if they walk away.
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AG@RICE said:

If it were me, I'd only deal to miami for Bam Bam. That kid is special. Herro could be really good, but I'd try to extract Bam and I'd be willing to risk losing Herro if they walk away.
Guessing they would tell the Rockets to go f themselves.....hope I'm wrong. Would love Bam.
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