Let's address the elephant in the room. You wanted Scoot over Wemby?
What were your reasons?
What were your reasons?
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Guitarsoup said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
So if Wemby is cleared to play, do you risk bringing him in too early or do you roll the dice and see if the guys can win game 4 without him?
If he's cleared to play by the NBA medical staff as well as the Spurs medical staff, it's not rolling the dice
The roll of the dice was Wemby sitting.
I really think that KOC has leaned into rage bait/engagement farming. I think that is why he used his MVP vote for Wemby against the consensus - he wanted the engagement and notoriety. KOC wasn't doing that as much when he was with The Ringer, but is doing it now constantly at Yahoo.
It's one thing if before the draft process you are pushing trading down for Kon because he's a better shooter and the Spurs need shooting.
But that Kon tweet was near the trade deadline. We got to see each player for ~50 games and he is still doing that.
It's one thing to throw out stupid or ignorant stuff long before they play in the NBA, but he had the benefit of seeing both in the league.
It's one thing if before the draft process you are pushing trading down for Kon because he's a better shooter and the Spurs need shooting.
But that Kon tweet was near the trade deadline. We got to see each player for ~50 games and he is still doing that.
It's one thing to throw out stupid or ignorant stuff long before they play in the NBA, but he had the benefit of seeing both in the league.
To be fair to Guitar, there were a lot of questions about Wemby's ability to physically handle the NBA game at his weight and slim build and Scoot had a lot of early hype. Guitar was pro-scoot like a year before the draft, as more info on Wemby came out, it became pretty obvious that Wemby was the better prospect and it wasn't like Guitar continued to beat Scoot's drum as the better player. We can only analyze things with the info we have and at first it wasn't crazy to prefer Scoot to Wemby.
I'm on record as always gambling in the draft for the higher ceiling, but even I wasn't sure that Wemby could deliver on that ceiling as consistently as he has so far early in the draft process.
I'm on record as always gambling in the draft for the higher ceiling, but even I wasn't sure that Wemby could deliver on that ceiling as consistently as he has so far early in the draft process.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Let's address the elephant in the room. You wanted Scoot over Wemby?
What were your reasons?
Long before the draft or even the lottery, Wemby had a lot of injuries in his teens (including stress fractures and back problems) and I had the same worries that everyone else had with a 7'5 skinny alien about injuries because pretty much no one 7'3 and taller has ever had a long, healthy career in the NBA as a featured player.
I said Wemby would be better, but Scoot might have the better career due to injuries Wemby has limiting him in his career. Ironically, Scoot has had way more injuries. I was thinking in context of like Ralph Sampson (#1 pick in 83) vs James Worthy (#1 pick in 82.) Sampson was a better player, but Worthy had the better career because Sampson's injuries limited him.
I also was way higher on Scoot because his athleticism looked off the charts (Westbrookian) good because he was playing in the dog**** GLeague.
AggieEP said:
To be fair to Guitar, there were a lot of questions about Wemby's ability to physically handle the NBA game at his weight and slim build and Scoot had a lot of early hype. Guitar was pro-scoot like a year before the draft, as more info on Wemby came out, it became pretty obvious that Wemby was the better prospect and it wasn't like Guitar continued to beat Scoot's drum as the better player. We can only analyze things with the info we have and at first it wasn't crazy to prefer Scoot to Wemby.
I'm on record as always gambling in the draft for the higher ceiling, but even I wasn't sure that Wemby could deliver on that ceiling as consistently as he has so far early in the draft process.
Also none of us knew at the time that Wemby's parents had started him on yoga and flexibility stuff way back in his pre-teen days to work on his tendons and ligaments to prevent sprains.
That's why things like this can happen with him regularly and he doesn't even leave the floor:
**** like that is not normal and certainly not expected. But his mom being a coach and his dad being an athlete and them knowing he was special at an early age and leading him down that flexibility road is probably why he hasn't had injuries to any connective tissue in his 3 years in the NBA and that his early fractures and back issues as a teen were probably growing issues that are unlikely to reoccur. But at the time, we had no way to know any of this stuff.
I don't think any of us thought Wemby would be top 3 in MVP on a 62 win team in year 3.
All I do is Nguyen said:
Went to bed at halftime and wasn't feeling very optimistic about the outcome of the game. Sooooo happy to wake up to us basically getting the series back to where it should (tho we should be up 3-0).
Living on the east coast suck ass sometimes
We're in Tampa for the last cheer competition of the year. It was rough being in my feet for 12 hours and then watching the game until 2 am.
time to fully bench Fox and start Harper -
Wemby is definitely pushing all the right buttons with his conditioning and building. It'll take time, but if he keeps pushing himself physically in the off-season he can really help himself in the back end of his career.
Average Joe said:
Wemby is definitely pushing all the right buttons with his conditioning and building. It'll take time, but if he keeps pushing himself physically in the off-season he can really help himself in the back end of his career.
Yeah, it is pretty incredible the mindset he has had at such a young age.
And he seems to have followed the Kareem blueprint.
- Stay flexible
- Yoga
- Martial Arts
- Don't add unnecessary weight, because it is bad for your feet/joints
Combine that with much better modern sports medicine and the prospect of Wemby having a long and healthy career looks a lot brighter.
Still want a thicc, beefy PF that can shoot to body up against the big fellas and let Wemby stay as a free safety in the paint.
Alright, I can respect it. It will age like milk but at least you stand by it.
The more info we have, the better opinions we can create. No shame in being wrong and changing your opinion with newer and better information. When I wrote about my injury concerns with Wemby, it was long before the draft and it was the same concerns basically everyone had. Once the draft process got going and we got to know more about him, it wasn't something that was continually pushed. Just gets brought up out of context (or completely misrepresenting what I said) by people that want to dunk on me.
I obviously don't think now what I thought 4 years ago.
I obviously don't think now what I thought 4 years ago.
Again, I love to disagree with Guitar from time to time, but his take on Scoot wasn't controversial at the time.
I was in love with Devin Carter 2 years ago and that looks pretty crazy right now since he's barely been able to stay healthy or crack the rotation for Sacramento.
I also think that Nate Ament is going to be a good NBA player, but there is a chance we sit here in 2 years and he's a collosal bust. Predicting NBA success before you see how a guy reacts to being a professional is incredibly difficult. I have certain elements I like to prioritize that I think are good predictors but I've been wrong as often as I've been right.
Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled discussion, I'd hold Wemby out one more game and try to run back another win without him. If he is set on playing, let him be the bench version of Wemby so you can limit his minutes and exposure against a Portland team we should beat without him. We stand no chance in the next rounds without a 100% healthy Wemby so the team needs to make sure that guy is available for us. Of course if Portland pushes this thing maybe I change my tune, but for me right now, the important games are still down the road where Wemby's impact is necessary.
I was in love with Devin Carter 2 years ago and that looks pretty crazy right now since he's barely been able to stay healthy or crack the rotation for Sacramento.
I also think that Nate Ament is going to be a good NBA player, but there is a chance we sit here in 2 years and he's a collosal bust. Predicting NBA success before you see how a guy reacts to being a professional is incredibly difficult. I have certain elements I like to prioritize that I think are good predictors but I've been wrong as often as I've been right.
Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled discussion, I'd hold Wemby out one more game and try to run back another win without him. If he is set on playing, let him be the bench version of Wemby so you can limit his minutes and exposure against a Portland team we should beat without him. We stand no chance in the next rounds without a 100% healthy Wemby so the team needs to make sure that guy is available for us. Of course if Portland pushes this thing maybe I change my tune, but for me right now, the important games are still down the road where Wemby's impact is necessary.
Carter being able to defend 1-5 is worth so much right now. Absolute unsung hero. Dude needs to trust his shot and just let it fly. Don't think. Just throw it up and get the board or get back on D.
I'll be honest, I was fully checked out from the NBA after 2018 or so, until the Wemby hype started and Spurs got the #1 pick.
I never heard about all these concerns at the time.
But going back to game 5, I agree with whoever said you limit Wemby's minutes. If we start pulling away, let him sit.
If it starts looking bad, you put him in.
I never heard about all these concerns at the time.
But going back to game 5, I agree with whoever said you limit Wemby's minutes. If we start pulling away, let him sit.
If it starts looking bad, you put him in.
If he clears the NBA's doctors and our doctors, which I believe he has, maybe you do a 20min thing, but I think you play him and put your foot on their throat.
I think playing first half closer to the 20min game restriction and playing second half by ear would be fine. If he needs to play more minutes to win, you do it.
I think playing first half closer to the 20min game restriction and playing second half by ear would be fine. If he needs to play more minutes to win, you do it.
It's concussion protocol, he's either cleared to play or not.
Go for a gentleman's sweep with a couple extra days of rest after the series for the entire team while Minnesota and Denver beat each other up.
Go for a gentleman's sweep with a couple extra days of rest after the series for the entire team while Minnesota and Denver beat each other up.
Magic were too inept to knock the Hawks back to the playin, but are about to go up 2-1 against Detroit.
Gonna be wild if the Pistons get knocked out.
Pretty crazy playoffs so far. I think the WCF will be the real Finals though.
Pretty crazy playoffs so far. I think the WCF will be the real Finals though.
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Gave myself a pinch this morning to make sure I wasn't still asleep, but sure enough, the Spurs are actually in the playoffs and they have a real ass team. I've missed this part of the year so much
AggieEP said:Guitarsoup said:jteagle said:
Follow up!Spurs fans: I retract my previous statements about Kon over Harper 😂😂 https://t.co/HBsH5hJUTH
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Not good enough, KOC. I'm bringing this **** up for the next 15 years at least.
I'm always amazed that people who get paid money to cover and write about the NBA have so little knowledge about basketball. Kon is just the most recent version of a player like Dennis Scott, Dan Majerle, Dell Curry, Luke Kennard etc that are GREAT shooters that absolutely do not have a ceiling above players who can create and initiate offense for themselves and others.
Dan Majerle was a multiple time all defense selection. I won't stand for the Thunder Dan slander!
You and me both dudeObi Wan Ginobili said:
Gave myself a pinch this morning to make sure I wasn't still asleep, but sure enough, the Spurs are actually in the playoffs and they have a real ass team. I've missed this part of the year so much
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
No intention on slandering Dan.
Just trying to think of good players through time whose value offensively was limited by an inability to operate as a creator.
I did look back at his NBA reference page after your comment though and was surprised by how low his 3pt% was for his career. I remembered Majerle as a sniper but he was much weaker as a shooter than 3D Scott and OG Curry. Maybe I just remember him having unlimited range and being one of the few guys to shoot it from way behind the line.
Just trying to think of good players through time whose value offensively was limited by an inability to operate as a creator.
I did look back at his NBA reference page after your comment though and was surprised by how low his 3pt% was for his career. I remembered Majerle as a sniper but he was much weaker as a shooter than 3D Scott and OG Curry. Maybe I just remember him having unlimited range and being one of the few guys to shoot it from way behind the line.
Odds on Wemby playing tomorrow? Given that we won last night I say no. But who knows
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
I say he plays, no point in having him fly out to Portland if they weren't having him play a game.
AggieEP said:
No intention on slandering Dan.
Just trying to think of good players through time whose value offensively was limited by an inability to operate as a creator.
I did look back at his NBA reference page after your comment though and was surprised by how low his 3pt% was for his career. I remembered Majerle as a sniper but he was much weaker as a shooter than 3D Scott and OG Curry. Maybe I just remember him having unlimited range and being one of the few guys to shoot it from way behind the line.
By today's standards, he was an average to slightly above average 3 point shooter. In the 90s guys just didn't shoot that much, so he had a reputation as a sniper.
I think he can operate as a secondary creator. He was 78th percentile as a PnR ball handler this year and had 3.4apg. But he is going to be an off-ball shot maker and secondary creator.
Maybe he is a smaller Gordan Heyward?
I like the Dan Majerle comparison if you replace the defense with dough.
Poor Man's Chris Mullin to stick with the gingo theme.
Maybe he is a smaller Gordan Heyward?
I like the Dan Majerle comparison if you replace the defense with dough.
Poor Man's Chris Mullin to stick with the gingo theme.
I think Mullin would be a top end comp, same as like Mitch Richmond if you want to look at guys who could really shoot and who were good enough off the dribble to work as secondary creators. (Both in the HoF and I don't think Kon has that type of ceiling) Peak Allan Houston seems similar just scale up the numbers to adjust for current pace of play and 3pt rates.
In any case, Dylan's got a chance to be the kind of player that makes multiple all NBA first teams if he can scale up what he did this year to a higher usage rate. Guards just don't shoot 50% from the field that often over a whole season, and those that do win MVP awards and end up in the hall of fame as inner circle guys.
I can't always tell the future perfectly, but I can foresee a time 4 years from now when Kon is on a rookie max extension and everyone looks at each other and says WTF is that guy making 35 Million dollars? He's great value on a rookie deal, and I'd take him on a Keldon deal but a player like him in the apron era cannot take up a full max slot.
In any case, Dylan's got a chance to be the kind of player that makes multiple all NBA first teams if he can scale up what he did this year to a higher usage rate. Guards just don't shoot 50% from the field that often over a whole season, and those that do win MVP awards and end up in the hall of fame as inner circle guys.
I can't always tell the future perfectly, but I can foresee a time 4 years from now when Kon is on a rookie max extension and everyone looks at each other and says WTF is that guy making 35 Million dollars? He's great value on a rookie deal, and I'd take him on a Keldon deal but a player like him in the apron era cannot take up a full max slot.
jsc8116 said:
I say he plays, no point in having him fly out to Portland if they weren't having him play a game.
Could be that the outcome of game 3 was going to factor in.
jsc8116 said:
I say he plays, no point in having him fly out to Portland if they weren't having him play a game.
Wemby has passed all the Spurs concussion protocol tests and has to get the blessing of the league doctors now.
He flew out because we expected him to be passed and play in one or both games and also because he is the opposite of Kevin Durant and wants to cheer on his teammates.
Game 3 outcome was never going to factor into whether one of the most competitive guys in the league plays in a playoff game.
Sure it could.
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