I think making deferred payments for a player you don't actually need in your lineup as it stands right now is a terrible idea. If we had a glaring hole in the lineup and a rising star with his best years ahead of him is available, yes you try to talk him into that to make it happen. Bregman isn't that guy with our lineup in its current form.n_touch said:txags92 said:That plan would be to pay luxury tax…which Crane supposedly really doesn't want to do. They have a plan for where to play those three guys, but not a plan to sign all three without going over the luxury tax threshold.Ag_07 said:Bag said:EastCoastAgNc said:
One idiot writes a story not knowing what he's talking about where he says he'll sign her and all the AI aggregators pick it up
It literally makes no sense given all the moves we have made.
Except the Astros did have a plan if they landed Paredes, Walker, and Bregman.
Deferred payment to Bregs and also prorated every year so his pay starts around the third week of May
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The best player on every single team should bat leadoff in every single game.
— Ryan M. Spaeder (@theaceofspaeder) January 3, 2025
In 2024, across MLB, leadoff hitters had 10,711 plate appearances with the potential to either tie the game or take the lead — 957 more than three-hole hitters. This includes additional opportunities…
Man it would pretty rough to watch Yordan hit behind Chas, Dubon, and Meyers.
It also kept Matt Williams from hunting down Roger Maris. Williams had 43 and was on pace for 62. Strike kept him from 400 HR.Coog97 said:The Porkchop Express said:It is a staggering exercise in what-ifs. The season ended after 113 games, Bagwell had played 110.Mathguy64 said:Farmer1906 said:
Jeff Bagwell 91-95
26.6 WAR
148 wRC+
113 HR
469 RBI
2975 PA
Yordan Alvarez 19-24
23.3 WAR
166 wRC+
164 HR
466 RBI
2668 PA
How much of that 91-95 Bagwell data set if from that 94 season? That partial season was the greatest RHH season I have ever seen. Without the broken hand and strike it would have assaulted the record books in ways never seen.
Simple stat projections to 162 games for him
573 AB
149 runs scored
211 hits
46 doubles
56 HR
166 RBI
22 SB
93 BB
93 K
.368 / .451 / . 750
The all-time bummer of the season is that the strike cost Tony Gwynn a legit shot at .400. The Padres had played 117 games and he was hitting .394
Gwynn was on pace for 228 hits. He entered August hitting .385 and had started the month hitting .475 through 10 games (19 for 40).
The 94 strike may have also very well ended the Expos dynasty before it had a chance to begin. 30 years later, it still turns my stomach.
And Greg Maddux was having an unreal season. He was first in ERA at 1.56, and #2 was Bret Sabehagen at 2.74. Maddux had 16 wins and was on pace for 23. The next year he was 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA, but 1994 was potentially going to be better.
That expos team was off the charts amazing. Best OF in baseball - Moises, Marquis Grissom, and pre-Rockies Larry Walker. Not to mention 22-year-old Pedro Martinez.
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You can't just assume that if you bat your best hitter first all other things would remain the same. Teams would likely approach the bottom of the lineup differently. Also, cumulative MLB numbers make this seem bigger than it is. Per team, it's about 32 ABs over the course of the season.
There are very analytical teams out there that have likely crunched the numbers. There's a lot more that goes into it than simply number of at bats with a chance to tie or take the lead.
I think what this really shows is that it's beneficial to have a guy like Springer in the lead off spot. Altuve isn't bad, either. But you definitely want someone who can come through in those situations. It doesn't necessarily have to be your best hitter.
There are very analytical teams out there that have likely crunched the numbers. There's a lot more that goes into it than simply number of at bats with a chance to tie or take the lead.
I think what this really shows is that it's beneficial to have a guy like Springer in the lead off spot. Altuve isn't bad, either. But you definitely want someone who can come through in those situations. It doesn't necessarily have to be your best hitter.
txags92 said:That plan would be to pay luxury tax…which Crane supposedly really doesn't want to do. They have a plan for where to play those three guys, but not a plan to sign all three without going over the luxury tax threshold.Ag_07 said:Bag said:EastCoastAgNc said:
One idiot writes a story not knowing what he's talking about where he says he'll sign her and all the AI aggregators pick it up
It literally makes no sense given all the moves we have made.
Except the Astros did have a plan if they landed Paredes, Walker, and Bregman.
Crane has that plan at the beginning of an offseason, then he remembers he's Jim F'n Crane
BuT wHaT aBoUt SpEeD oN tHe BaSeS!Farmer1906 said:The best player on every single team should bat leadoff in every single game.
— Ryan M. Spaeder (@theaceofspaeder) January 3, 2025
In 2024, across MLB, leadoff hitters had 10,711 plate appearances with the potential to either tie the game or take the lead — 957 more than three-hole hitters. This includes additional opportunities…
In all seriousness, there can be debate about how you define "best" hitter. OPS? Slugging? Something else?
Farmer1906 said:The best player on every single team should bat leadoff in every single game.
— Ryan M. Spaeder (@theaceofspaeder) January 3, 2025
In 2024, across MLB, leadoff hitters had 10,711 plate appearances with the potential to either tie the game or take the lead — 957 more than three-hole hitters. This includes additional opportunities…
I mean we have our second best hitter hitting lead off, and he would be the best hitter on half the teams in the majors
The Astros often bat Yordan 4th which results in him coming up in the 2nd inning with the bases empty.
I'd at least move him up to 2nd.
I'd at least move him up to 2nd.
Frok said:
The Astros often bat Yordan 4th which results in him coming up in the 2nd inning with the bases empty.
I'd at least move him up to 2nd.
I'd put him 3rd with Walker 4th
redline248 said:
In all seriousness, there can be debate about how you define "best" hitter. OPS? Slugging? Something else?
Highest wRC+. Not perfect but better than the traditional slash line.
Frok said:
The Astros often bat Yordan 4th which results in him coming up in the 2nd inning with the bases empty.
I'd at least move him up to 2nd.
He should bat 2nd. It shouldn't be a question.
I'd do it like this:
Altuve
Yordan
Paredes or Diaz
Walker
Paredes or Diaz
That still leaves Pena and 3 below average OFers 6-9. At least 2 of them need to be average and one needs to be better than average.
And I'm still marveling at a team batting their entire OF 7-9. I don't think I have ever seen that in my life. Those are supposed to be plus offensive positions.
And I'm still marveling at a team batting their entire OF 7-9. I don't think I have ever seen that in my life. Those are supposed to be plus offensive positions.
Not sure if already discussed in this thread, but a few days ago MLB Trade Rumors talked about trading for Jesus Sanchez. That would be a great fit if possible.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/where-can-astros-turn-for-a-left-handed-outfielder.html
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/where-can-astros-turn-for-a-left-handed-outfielder.html
Would be a good fit. Lefty bat, hits the ball really hard, plays better defense than the free agent options.Bobby Jimbo said:
Not sure if already discussed in this thread, but a few days ago MLB Trade Rumors talked about trading for Jesus Sanchez. That would be a great fit if possible.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/where-can-astros-turn-for-a-left-handed-outfielder.html
speaking of Pena...
one thing the front office got right: no extension (yet)
have to see more and see better
25 walks in 650 plate appearances is so, so bad -- c'mon Snitker & Cintron...help him
small positive...he only struck out 111 times
one thing the front office got right: no extension (yet)
have to see more and see better
25 walks in 650 plate appearances is so, so bad -- c'mon Snitker & Cintron...help him
small positive...he only struck out 111 times
He's always swinging and missing at those outside sliders.
In 2017 Springer was 4th in wRC+ and (I think) OPS+. In 2019 He was 3rd.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
In all seriousness, there can be debate about how you define "best" hitter. OPS? Slugging? Something else?
Highest wRC+. Not perfect but better than the traditional slash line.
redline248 said:In 2017 Springer was 4th in wRC+ and (I think) OPS+. In 2019 He was 3rd.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
In all seriousness, there can be debate about how you define "best" hitter. OPS? Slugging? Something else?
Highest wRC+. Not perfect but better than the traditional slash line.
That team was so good offensively it didn't matter. Altuve, Correa, Springer, Marwin was probably the best way to go with the lineup.
Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:In 2017 Springer was 4th in wRC+ and (I think) OPS+. In 2019 He was 3rd.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
In all seriousness, there can be debate about how you define "best" hitter. OPS? Slugging? Something else?
Highest wRC+. Not perfect but better than the traditional slash line.
That team was so good offensively it didn't matter. Altuve, Correa, Springer, Marwin was probably the best way to go with the lineup.
That team was scary good. Curse you, Strasburg.
W said:
speaking of Pena...
one thing the front office got right: no extension (yet)
have to see more and see better
25 walks in 650 plate appearances is so, so bad -- c'mon Snitker & Cintron...help him
small positive...he only struck out 111 times
I just want to know why snitker and cintron are still our hitting coaches
Hornbeck said:Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:In 2017 Springer was 4th in wRC+ and (I think) OPS+. In 2019 He was 3rd.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
In all seriousness, there can be debate about how you define "best" hitter. OPS? Slugging? Something else?
Highest wRC+. Not perfect but better than the traditional slash line.
That team was so good offensively it didn't matter. Altuve, Correa, Springer, Marwin was probably the best way to go with the lineup.
That team was scary good. Curse you, Strasburg.
If we got regular season JV/Cole during games 1 and 2 we sweep that series
Because our offense has been among the best in baseball for several years now.
I think you posted after the season (or maybe it was Espada talking about it) that the team was looking into a switch in hitting philosophy. Or maybe asses why they got away from the usual plan?texasaggie2015 said:
Because our offense has been among the best in baseball for several years now.
Any word on how that's been going?
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Jose Siri showing off defensively in whatever league this is
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She says, "Hey Daddy look at this."
She points to a small Christmas ornament with the Rangers' logo on it.
Me: "Yeah, so?"
She picks it up.
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She says, "Hey Daddy look at this."
She points to a small Christmas ornament with the Rangers' logo on it.
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She picks it up.
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folks keep saying how good the Astros offense was last year...
but a deeper dive into the numbers based upon opponent...
the Astros scored 112 runs in the 17 games vs. the Rockies (61-101) and Angels (63-99) -- they destroyed those two terrible teams. Viva la Mexico!
in fact 15% of the 'stros total runs scored for the season came vs. Colorado and Anaheim
but against the Yankees and Mariners -- teams with good pitching...
the Astros scored a grand total of 57 runs in 20 games -- muy malo
but a deeper dive into the numbers based upon opponent...
the Astros scored 112 runs in the 17 games vs. the Rockies (61-101) and Angels (63-99) -- they destroyed those two terrible teams. Viva la Mexico!
in fact 15% of the 'stros total runs scored for the season came vs. Colorado and Anaheim
but against the Yankees and Mariners -- teams with good pitching...
the Astros scored a grand total of 57 runs in 20 games -- muy malo
17 games is a little over 10% of the schedule, so 15% runs scored doesn't seem too out of whack.
At the very least we didn't have the old schedule and 19 games versus that M's staff, then things would've looked even uglier. Although we would've had the extra 6 versus Anaheim.
At the very least we didn't have the old schedule and 19 games versus that M's staff, then things would've looked even uglier. Although we would've had the extra 6 versus Anaheim.
W said:
folks keep saying how good the Astros offense was last year...
but a deeper dive into the numbers based upon opponent...
the Astros scored 112 runs in the 17 games vs. the Rockies (61-101) and Angels (63-99) -- they destroyed those two terrible teams. Viva la Mexico!
in fact 15% of the 'stros total runs scored for the season came vs. Colorado and Anaheim
but against the Yankees and Mariners -- teams with good pitching...
the Astros scored a grand total of 57 runs in 20 games -- muy malo
Isn't that true for most teams?
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wtf joe
texasaggie2015 said:
Because our offense has been among the best in baseball for several years now.
And could be better- which Espada acknowledged when he criticized the overly aggressive mentality. Curious if that was encouraged by Cintron or the organization.
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