txags92 said:

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We offered Bregman 6/156 when we needed a 3B and we thought we were competing with other 5+ year offers. Now that we traded away a very good player and depleted our OF to get a 3B and found out nobody else is willing to offer Alex 5 years, he is not worth 6/156 and we would be fools to offer anything close to that now. 3/75 or 4/100 with a club option for years 3/4 would be much more appropriate for what the market is offering Alex now. He made a bad choice and the banker's offer should go down accordingly.

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He has 4 and 5 year offers from other teams that he can take. If the team is only going to offer 3 or 4 years, they shouldn't even bother making an offer.

You still need someone to play 1st on Walker days off. Dezenzo and Caratini can fill that role, and I don't know how they stack up to Jon defensively, but I suppose it's nice to have a true back up. Just a thought.

Plus, he's cheap and is a LH option

I agree that we cannot offer 3-4. But if his best offers by teams he is not excited about are 5 year offers, then that is the offer I would extend. Matxh the best 5 year offer he has. There is no way it is above 150.

I think the org wants to get DeZenzo ABs, so backup ABs at 1B would seem to be his. I am assuming they project him as a 1B/LF with a projectable bat who can play 3B/2B in a pinch.

Yep, as much as I like Jon's bat off the bench, we have too may other bats that can play 1B to consiser carrying a pure 1B/DH on a four-man bench.

What is Jon's outlook, right now and if Caratini stays on the roster?

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MaxPower said:

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Next year is also a great year to go after a pitcher. I like Ranger Saurez as a cheaper version of Framber but there are a lot of others as well. You honestly may not even need a pitcher depending on the development of Arrighetti and Wesneski and health of LMC, Luis, France and Javier.

I'm more concerned about a complete lack of a lefty bat outside Yordan. Has a team ever won a WS with 1 lefty in their lineup? I honestly don't know.

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Unless Alex leaves, I think the left handed bat they're going to look to is Taylor Trammel who they picked up off the DFA heap from the Yankees. Big Jon will be the one off the bench. If Victor is traded, Salazar is left handed too

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Trade is your only option. Could you turn around and trade Paredes? Seems like he should be appealing to whoever was in on Bregman (Red Sox, Tigers, Toronto).

f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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texasaggie2015 said:

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Pressly was going to be traded regardless.

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Understood, but many saw it as a necessary step to reacquiring Bregman.

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Not even close to the truth. Pressly was asking to be traded even last season.

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— Bonda (@BenOndaTop) January 27, 2025

Is Bregman's defense at 3B a really big deal?

He had a good WAR last year despite pretty poor offensive stats

Does having him at 3B, Pena at SS, Peredes at 2B, and Walker at 1B make our infield defense elite?

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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On their podcast, Chandler suggests that the bregman decision could happen this week.

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They also suggested that Altuve would be headed to LF sooner or later regardless of Bregman returning.

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Was his defense that bad?

texasaggie2015 said:

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Would love to somehow move Caritini and a mid-level prospect for a decent middle reliever

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Stop trying to trade my favorite current Astro.

Harry Dunne said:

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wcrew93 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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On their podcast, Chandler suggests that the bregman decision could happen this week.

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They also suggested that Altuve would be headed to LF sooner or later regardless of Bregman returning.

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Was his defense that bad?

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According to them, he is statistically one of the worst defensive second basemen in the league

Harry Dunne said:

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wcrew93 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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On their podcast, Chandler suggests that the bregman decision could happen this week.

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They also suggested that Altuve would be headed to LF sooner or later regardless of Bregman returning.

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Was his defense that bad?

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From what I understand Altuve is the worst fielding 2B in the league, or near to it, per Rome

Was looking up Biggio's OF stats. I had no recollection of him playing OF early in his Astros career, but he did.

5 games in 1989
50 in 1990
2 in 1991

Then nothing again until
6 in 1999
1 in 2002

Then suddenly
150 in 2003 at age 37
149 in 2004 at age 38

That is so incredibly insane. What a player. He had previously played 18 games in the OF in the minors.


Robin Yount is more comparable to Altuve if he moves positions. Yount played SS from 1974-1984 for the Brewers, then swtiched to OF in 1985 and played there except for a smattering of games at 1B for the rest of his career.

Dating back to his 2007 season as a 17-year-old, Altuve has:
1 game at 3B in 2008
2 games at 3B in 2010
13 games at 3B and 1 at SS in 2011
1 game at SS in 2016 with the Astros
1 game at SS in 2019 with the Astros


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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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— Bonda (@BenOndaTop) January 27, 2025

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I want to believe it, but this choad probably ran to Walmart to buy a burner phone just so he could create this screenshot

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He didn't need to run to Walmart, he already has several in his drawer for when he does these tweets.

Ryan Pressly's on-field dominance as an Astro is obvious— and probably underappreciated by some — but he really morphed into a clubhouse leader this season. His airplane conversation with Hunter Brown helped catalyze Brown's midseason turnaround - https://t.co/28LZ68MQ6H

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 27, 2025

So up until this point, all the insiders (here and elsewhere) had indicated virtually 0% chance of Breggy coming back. Do we really feel this Pressly deal and the market falling off for Alex really gives us a legit chance to retain him?

Count me as one that would love to resign him, and I am not worried about 5 years from now. I see our window open for 3 more years and just want to extend this unparalleled level of success we've been having a little longer. Im ok with a total rebuild after that.

The Sun said:

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wcrew93 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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On their podcast, Chandler suggests that the bregman decision could happen this week.

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They also suggested that Altuve would be headed to LF sooner or later regardless of Bregman returning.

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Altuve's noodle arm doesn't play any OF position.

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Honest question, what's your evidence for that statement? The team obviously disagrees, and I don't recall ever seeing him even attempt a long throw.

AggieJ2002 said:

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So up until this point, all the insiders (here and elsewhere) had indicated virtually 0% chance of Breggy coming back. Do we really feel this Pressly deal and the market falling off for Alex really gives us a legit chance to retain him?

Count me as one that would love to resign him, and I am not worried about 5 years from now. I see our window open for 3 more years and just want to extend this unparalleled level of success we've been having a little longer. Im ok with a total rebuild after that.

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Everything changed in the last few days. All the guys at Fan Fest were talking about it being a very real thing.