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Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
#RedSox are signing LHP Aroldis Chapman to a 1-year deal for $10.75 million, league source confirms. pic.twitter.com/5vPN4lbUeN
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) December 3, 2024
The Porkchop Express said:Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
On the one hand, good for the Astros for being so good without having to blow 2 billion dollars.
On the other hand I bet we could have saved about 300 million and gotten the same results…
how?amercer said:The Porkchop Express said:Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
On the one hand, good for the Astros for being so good without having to blow 2 billion dollars.
On the other hand I bet we could have saved about 300 million and gotten the same results…
I'm sure it's Bagwell's fault somehow.
Have reported the Astros are considering moving Ryan Pressly and his $14 million salary. He has the ultimate say with his no-trade clause, but consider: Chapman, 36, got $10.75 million after a 111 ERA+ & 1.346 WHIP in 61.2 IP. Pressly, 35, had a 114 ERA+ and 1.341 WHIP in 56.2 IP https://t.co/Fx2uGAP2ix
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 3, 2024
Abreu is 58.5. Montero is 34.5. Brantley was $44M (but at least we got one good year for $16M there). I don't think this includes Pressly's 30M.Farmer1906 said:how?amercer said:The Porkchop Express said:Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
On the one hand, good for the Astros for being so good without having to blow 2 billion dollars.
On the other hand I bet we could have saved about 300 million and gotten the same results…
I don't know that I get anywhere close to $300M, but close enough for the hyperbolic point he was making.
Well...We can start with everyone's favorite coffee slinging barista who's getting paid $17 mil per to play soft toss for the past 3 years.
Nolan Arenado is more likely to be traded than to stay with the Cardinals in 2025, per @katiejwoo pic.twitter.com/1LJ5whFjL4
— B/R Walk-Off (@BRWalkoff) December 3, 2024
Dodgers are going to get him for free and the Cards will pay for most of the remaining money. I can see it now.
We could have done it without the below salaries in my opinion.Buck Compton said:Abreu is 58.5. Montero is 34.5. Brantley was $44M (but at least we got one good year for $16M there). I don't think this includes Pressly's 30M.Farmer1906 said:how?amercer said:The Porkchop Express said:Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
On the one hand, good for the Astros for being so good without having to blow 2 billion dollars.
On the other hand I bet we could have saved about 300 million and gotten the same results…
I don't know that I get anywhere close to $300M, but close enough for the hyperbolic point he was making.
2022: $43.3mm
LMCJ - $15.95mm
Brantley - $16mm
Castro - $3.5mm
Goodrum - $2.1mm
Baez - $5.75mm
2023: $79.28mm
Abreu - $19.5mm
LMCJ - $15.95mm
Pressly - $15mm
Brantley - $12mm
Montero - $11.5mm
Maldonado - $4.5mm
Taylor - $830k
2024: $86.7mm
Abreu: $19.5mm
LMCJ: $17.7mm
Pressly: $14mm
Ferguson: $2.4mm
Montero: $11.5m
... I'm sure there is more.
Over $209mm of wasted money in my eyes.
PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:We could have done it without the below salaries in my opinion.Buck Compton said:Abreu is 58.5. Montero is 34.5. Brantley was $44M (but at least we got one good year for $16M there). I don't think this includes Pressly's 30M.Farmer1906 said:how?amercer said:The Porkchop Express said:Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
On the one hand, good for the Astros for being so good without having to blow 2 billion dollars.
On the other hand I bet we could have saved about 300 million and gotten the same results…
I don't know that I get anywhere close to $300M, but close enough for the hyperbolic point he was making.
2022: $43.3mm
LMCJ - $15.95mm
Brantley - $16mm
Castro - $3.5mm
Goodrum - $2.1mm
Baez - $5.75mm
2023: $79.28mm
Abreu - $19.5mm
LMCJ - $15.95mm
Pressly - $15mm
Brantley - $12mm
Montero - $11.5mm
Maldonado - $4.5mm
Taylor - $830k
2024: $86.7mm
Abreu: $19.5mm
LMCJ: $17.7mm
Pressly: $14mm
Ferguson: $2.4mm
Montero: $11.5m
... I'm sure there is more.
Over $209mm of wasted money in my eyes.
If only they knew exactly how all of them would work out. What a bunch of idiots.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I know that's not what I'm saying.Farmer1906 said:PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:We could have done it without the below salaries in my opinion.Buck Compton said:Abreu is 58.5. Montero is 34.5. Brantley was $44M (but at least we got one good year for $16M there). I don't think this includes Pressly's 30M.Farmer1906 said:how?amercer said:The Porkchop Express said:Feels like the A's have spent their $90.5 million on like 50 players.Wabs said:
On the one hand, good for the Astros for being so good without having to blow 2 billion dollars.
On the other hand I bet we could have saved about 300 million and gotten the same results…
I don't know that I get anywhere close to $300M, but close enough for the hyperbolic point he was making.
2022: $43.3mm
LMCJ - $15.95mm
Brantley - $16mm
Castro - $3.5mm
Goodrum - $2.1mm
Baez - $5.75mm
2023: $79.28mm
Abreu - $19.5mm
LMCJ - $15.95mm
Pressly - $15mm
Brantley - $12mm
Montero - $11.5mm
Maldonado - $4.5mm
Taylor - $830k
2024: $86.7mm
Abreu: $19.5mm
LMCJ: $17.7mm
Pressly: $14mm
Ferguson: $2.4mm
Montero: $11.5m
... I'm sure there is more.
Over $209mm of wasted money in my eyes.
If only they knew exactly how all of them would work out. What a bunch of idiots.
The LMJ stuff really does suck, but again, that's not even in the free agent numbers from the link.
No one can deny we were all excited for Abreu. But we can also all admit that we've had some pretty terrible free agent luck.
3 Teams that make most sense for Alec Bohm Royals, Mariners & Astros. Assumption that neither team signs Alex Bregman. Dombrowski wants Bregman. Values intangibles. Wants the Player. Don’t see why 2 Yrs of Control on Bohm would be attractive to CWS.
— MLBExecutiveBurner (@HotStoveintel) December 3, 2024
#Rays RHP Pete Fairbanks and LHP Jeffrey Springs are generating trade interest, per @jonmorosi pic.twitter.com/itCLnzthOs
— MLB Deadline News (@MLBDeadlineNews) December 3, 2024
Would love Springs
I'd throw 2024 JV on the list too
the 'stros have been burned by the old guys
the 'stros have been burned by the old guys
MaxPower said:
Would love Springs
Same! Fairbanks too. He's good and hilarious.
BadAggie said:
"And the dodgers have signed every current MLB all star at $1M each with all of the rest deferred to the end of their careers"
Pressley for Bohm trade if it comes to that?Farmer1906 said:3 Teams that make most sense for Alec Bohm Royals, Mariners & Astros. Assumption that neither team signs Alex Bregman. Dombrowski wants Bregman. Values intangibles. Wants the Player. Don’t see why 2 Yrs of Control on Bohm would be attractive to CWS.
— MLBExecutiveBurner (@HotStoveintel) December 3, 2024
EastCoastAgNc said:Pressley for Bohm trade if it comes to that?Farmer1906 said:3 Teams that make most sense for Alec Bohm Royals, Mariners & Astros. Assumption that neither team signs Alex Bregman. Dombrowski wants Bregman. Values intangibles. Wants the Player. Don’t see why 2 Yrs of Control on Bohm would be attractive to CWS.
— MLBExecutiveBurner (@HotStoveintel) December 3, 2024
Bohm has way more value than Pressly. I could see it being part of a package.
Maybe the ghost of ed wade helps us out with a Philly trade for once
Bregs enjoying his time at home. I thought for sure DBacks would be his landing spot this time a year ago
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
I can't see the Dbacks paying him huge money tho even if they needed a 3B.
A fascinating winter meetings await the Astros, who are still in search of a direction during a pivotal offseason - https://t.co/6uTp9fX8WN
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 4, 2024
This is very accurate and spot on from what I've gathered.EastCoastAgNc said:A fascinating winter meetings await the Astros, who are still in search of a direction during a pivotal offseason - https://t.co/6uTp9fX8WN
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 4, 2024
Quote:
The baseball world will descend upon Dallas with the Houston Astros still in search of a direction. Conversations with people inside and outside of the organization have yielded more ambiguity than absolutes about their offseason plans myriad options but few conclusions on how to confront a crossroads.
Some within the Astros' organization have sought clarity from decision-makers throughout the past month and a half. Most have been unsuccessful, but front offices aren't mandated to keep everyone apprised of their methods.
Do you think the Astros bring in a president of baseball operations? Seems like they need one bad. Dana is more skilled in the farm system stuff, but he seems to lack in managing the major league roster. We need a lunhow type to manage the vision of the organization.
They've entertained the idea in the past but I think it's one of those things where they'll do it if the right guy becomes available but won't actively try to find one.
Your message is received loud and clear, he's waiting by the phone.texasaggie2015 said:
They've entertained the idea in the past but I think it's one of those things where they'll do it if the right guy becomes available but won't actively try to find one.
Yep, he's torn between Bagwell and Ausmus.. give him another year and he might make a decision.
EastCoastAgNc said:A fascinating winter meetings await the Astros, who are still in search of a direction during a pivotal offseason - https://t.co/6uTp9fX8WN
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 4, 2024
Options ranked (IMO) from least to most likely:
1. Go for broke and open the bank for a stud like Soto.
2. Sell everything and start over with as many prospects as possible through trades.
3. Split the baby and execute a soft rebuild by trading a starter (Tucker or Valdez, for example).
4. Keep vets until they walk and fill in gaps with a range of free agents on short term deals.
I see a gap between 2 and 3, and then a huge chasm between 3 and 4. I'd put the different percentages as 1%, 1%, 8%, 90%.
I also see #4 as a slow but inevitable bleed out to a hard and painful rebuild. Bottom line, I hope Dana captures lightning in a bottle this winter.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Honestly, the more I think about it -- I like 3 as the best option. It's not writing off 2025, but sets us up in a better position in 26 and beyond.
How about #5
We're not gonna drop 600 million to get a player, but I could see us going after a big name that isn't Breman then making deals(trades) to bolster the 25 team and beyond.
I think the goal should be to keep the window open through the next 3 to 4 years. Get one more title and live in the playoffs for a full decade
We're not gonna drop 600 million to get a player, but I could see us going after a big name that isn't Breman then making deals(trades) to bolster the 25 team and beyond.
I think the goal should be to keep the window open through the next 3 to 4 years. Get one more title and live in the playoffs for a full decade
yes, keep Framber
and then a starting rotation of Framber, Javier, HB, Big Luis, Arrighetti, and maybe someone else...
should keep the Astros in the division / wildcard hunt for another 5 years
and then a starting rotation of Framber, Javier, HB, Big Luis, Arrighetti, and maybe someone else...
should keep the Astros in the division / wildcard hunt for another 5 years
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