texasaggie2015 said:

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The Astros and other teams aren't waiting for Bregman to sign with them as much as they're waiting for him to sign anywhere so the other dominoes start to fall.

Example: If Bregman signs with the Yankees, that likely makes Walker much more available for Houston as NYY will likely no longer pursue. Right now Walker is waiting to see if the Yankees will raise their offer if Bregman doesn't sign there.

They can put a deadline on Alex to make a decision on if he wants to sign here if they want, but it wouldn't change anything as far as the rate that they're pursuing others. The whole league is waiting.

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Farmer1906 said:

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texasaggie2015 said:

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The Astros and other teams aren't waiting for Bregman to sign with them as much as they're waiting for him to sign anywhere so the other dominoes start to fall.

Example: If Bregman signs with the Yankees, that likely makes Walker much more available for Houston as NYY will likely no longer pursue. Right now Walker is waiting to see if the Yankees will raise their offer if Bregman doesn't sign there.

They can put a deadline on Alex to make a decision on if he wants to sign here if they want, but it wouldn't change anything as far as the rate that they're pursuing others. The whole league is waiting.

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Someone has to blink and more dominoes will fall.

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gambochaman said:

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MaxPower said:

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Boras is also Alonso's agent. Have to think some of the same teams are in on him so letting this linger forever has negative downstream impact on Scott.

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Farmer1906 said:

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texasaggie2015 said:

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The Astros and other teams aren't waiting for Bregman to sign with them as much as they're waiting for him to sign anywhere so the other dominoes start to fall.

Example: If Bregman signs with the Yankees, that likely makes Walker much more available for Houston as NYY will likely no longer pursue. Right now Walker is waiting to see if the Yankees will raise their offer if Bregman doesn't sign there.

They can put a deadline on Alex to make a decision on if he wants to sign here if they want, but it wouldn't change anything as far as the rate that they're pursuing others. The whole league is waiting.

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Someone has to blink and more dominoes will fall.

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The Cardinals were willing to send $15-20 million to the Astros as part of the deal to help pay down Arenado's salary, sources said. The eight-time All-Star is set to earn $74 million over the next three years, though the Rockies are on the hook for $10 million as part of their 2021 trade with the Cardinals, while $12 million of the deal is deferred, bringing the present-day value of what he is owed to roughly $60 million. The money the Cardinals were willing to include would have brought the Astros' commitment down to roughly $40-45 million over three years.

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MaxPower said:

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He's not even worth $40M

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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NEWS: Nolan Arenado blocks potential trade to Astros, sources tell me, @brianmctaggart & @JohnDenton555

FULL STORY: https://t.co/zPtreNywha

— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) December 18, 2024

Thank you Nolan

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I can confirm the report that Nolan Arenado has blocked the trade to the Astros, originally reported by McTaggart.

Astros and Cardinals were pretty far in the process but Nolan said no.

Something else I have heard, the door is not closed on Alex Bregman returning...

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) December 18, 2024

IF the Astros were to up their offer to at least 175/6, I bet they could land Alex Bregman.

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) December 18, 2024

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Ag_07 said:

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I was where you are back when he was first mentioned but then I took a closer look at his numbers.

This isn't just one outlier season of low production. His production has been in a steady decline for the past few years. HRs, RBIs, OPS all on a steady decline in the past 3-4 years.

I know awards are the best barometer for success but it's telling that he won a GG in every season since 2013 until 23 and 24.

There's a reason they wanna trade him.

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It's way worse than I thought.





Aging playing with slow bat and long swing sees a decline (some major) in Hard Hit%, Exit Velo, Barrels, Fly Balls, Pop Ups, and pretty much all key batted ball data

Unless we think we have the magic touch to fix his swing, I want no part of him.

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Farmer1906 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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I think Nolan knows he's in decline and doesn't want to deal with the pressure of replacing Alex and the constant comparisons. I hope he continues to feel that way and doesn't change his mind on blocking the trade

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I think he wants to force himself to LA.

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Farmer1906 said:

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IF the Astros were to up their offer to at least 175/6, I bet they could land Alex Bregman.

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) December 18, 2024

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SpaceCityAg05 said:

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If 6/175 gets it done, I MIGHT consider pulling the trigger on that. Bregman brings intangibles (and keeps the clubhouse happy) and you then pray that his bat holds up. Infield defense improves with him back and Paredes at 1B.

Then you either have to use Framber in a trade to get a young controllable OF upgrade or you have to bite the bullet on luxury tax and sign one legit OF bat to make all of this work.

That also means decreasing some roster flexibility as Yainer can only play on his off days if Yordan is in LF (so Diaz can DH). Cam Smith, DeZenzo, Matthews, etc. all look to polish up their OF skills (unless you think Matthews has a shot to be good enough to unseat Pena at SS).

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