What does your credit card setup look like?

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We've had a couple of CSR conversations so that's got me thinking about what everyone is using and why.

Are you a points person or team cash back? Do you use multiple cards? And if so, which ones and why?

As for myself, I was all in on Chase points cards, spearheaded by a Chase Sapphire Preferred and then a Chase Sapphire Reserve, for over a decade. I 4 or 5 different cards in the ecosystem and would spend based on which one gave me the best category multiplier. I used the points for Hyatt transfers, Southwest transfers (when I had a companion pass), and for 1.5x portal redemptions for cruises and car rentals. But when Chase devalued CSR portal redemptions and increased the annual fee, I lost over 30% of the value and the whole thing seemed less worth it so I switched.

These days, the bulk of my base spend goes on a single Robinhood Gold card. I still have the CSR to max out the coupon book with my last lower annual fee, but I'll likely downgrade back Sapphire Preferred or cancel entirely and just cash outs the points for Hyatt. I was thinking of keeping it until I realized how few purchases I put on it anymore. I'm barely racking up 15k points per year so there's no way the annual fee will justify it anymore.

I also do a LOT of churning when I can. I sign up for new cards based on future plans or sometimes I just find a good opportunity like an elevated offer or a low spend requirement. We're currently churning just one card - a CSR for my wife. We have no plan to keep it.

As for cards we hold but don't spend on, we have many of them. Either they're no-fee cards we've acquired over the years that sit in a drawer or they have an annual fee but also an annual benefit like elevated hotel/airline status, annual "free" hotel stay, or fee points. We're going to close a few of these, though, to reduce our overall annual fees.

And lastly, I've got my eyes on a couple of Citi cards. We already have a Double Cash (2% back) which we don't use because we have Robinhood Gold (3% back), but I'm considering the Citi Strata Premier to allow us to convert points to AA miles. That could make the Double Cash worth using, but it's really hard to give up straight 3% back once you have it.
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Sounds way too complicated...

Bank of America premium rewards + a couple of customized cash rewards cards = 2.62% on everything, 3.5% on dining and travel, 5.25% on gas & online shopping.
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mosdefn14 said:

Sounds way too complicated...

Bank of America premium rewards + a couple of customized cash rewards cards = 2.62% on everything, 3.5% on dining and travel, 5.25% on gas & online shopping.
Was way too complicated. Now I'm on straight 3% cash back from one card and just churn when I want.

I'm assuming you're boosting your BoA cards with Preferred Rewards?
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Yes.
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Costco CIti--3 or 4% on travel, restaurants, and gas and costco purchases
Amex Blue- 5% at grocery stores
Both get 1% on everything else

Amazon Chase--jut for amazon (5%)

Chase Sappire that is 5% rotating to different retailers quarterly, so that gets used when appropriate.
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I use the CSR for restaurants/bars and the RH Gold for everything else.

Just saw a bonus for a Venmo Card where you get triple CB rewards the first 6 months (9% on your top used category, 6% on your second most used category & 3% on everything else).

I ran the numbers and that should be roughly accretive by $900 for me with little effort, so I'll churn through that for the promo period, then likely go back to the RH Gold.

I don't mind switching around cards. My wife is not as big a fan. I do remind her when we're on vacation that these small inconveniences paid for a lot of it.
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I was a churner for a while until I realized it wasn't worth the hassle for me.

So currently I use WF Active Cash as my daily use card (2% cash back on everything), and have some small monthly charges on my 4 other cards just to keep them open for the credit history.
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I keep a united chase club card and amex marriott bonvoy. In about 3 more years I'll be lifetime bonvoy platinum so will probably drop the amex.

Then for my wife I churn chase united and marriott cards. I used to churn for me as well, but we've had a solid bank of 200-400k points in both united and marriott for a while so I stopped and just churn hers now.. that combined with our spending tends to keep up with our redemptions. I'm churning her about once a year, so it's hardly a hassle. I'm waiting for the current chase marriott to switch from 4 free nights to points.. I don't really like the 4 free nights, it's harder to maximize that bonus.


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yall want complicated:


AMEX BCP 6% on grocery
max 6K annual , only one with a fee $95 but I max it out by putting all groceries, gas (ARCO gift cards), and Amazon gift cards from grocery stores on it

CITI Custom cash 5% on restaurants/bars (or highest spend category each month)
$500/month max, could also opt for other categories monthly like if buying a flight

Elan Max Cash 5% on utilities/cable/internet chosen categories
Elan Max Cash 5% on gym/entertainment(event tix) categories

BOA Cash Rewards(x2) 3% online purchases chosen category (now just use for special offers)

BILT 1% pts on rent, redeem for higher value airline pts transfers (now RIP nice gravy train while it lasted)

Robinhood Gold 3% everything else

so averaging prob >4% on all common spend, a few are on bill autopays so usual day to day just choosing either the Amex grocery, Custom Cash restaurants, or RH Gold for other


also several other Citi and Barclays cards just part of the collection making 6-10K/yr selling tradelines


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Citi AAdvantage Exec for me. I fly a ton on AA (DFW based) so the (slightly discounted) Admirals Club membership thru the annual fee and authorized user access for the family is nice. The miles rack up and usually covers at least a couple family trips per year.
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AMEX BCP 6% on grocery
max 6K annual , only one with a fee $95 but I max it out by putting all groceries, gas (ARCO gift cards), and Amazon gift cards from grocery stores on it

used to have this one, but so many grocery stores (Walmart Grocery, Target. Costco) and any of the delivery services didn't count, so wasn't worth the fee anymore.

Even when I was able to max out the grocery spend, the upside was only $85 per year after the RH Gold card came into play ($360-180-95).
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Is there a way yet to assign your digital copies of cards to a category you want to use so that when you pay, there's orchestration which selects the grocery card for the grocery checkout, the fuel spend to another card, etc.

There's a lot of value in time saved for setting up various cards to different spend/merchant categories so you can just pay via mobile without having to remember the correct card every time.

Or at least I think.

And then having a sweet dashboard showing your rewards broken down by card or category.

Pretty sure some of this exists but the automatic selection of card to merchant/category at time of payment is locked down by Big Tech Wallet (Apple and Google).

However I realize manually managing all of this is a super rewarding (no pun intended) pursuit for some. Automation would take the fun out of it for the 0.005% of the population that absolutely rapes the credit card points game.
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1. Downgrading Chase Sapphire Reserve to Preferred ($95) or Unlimited (no fee). 99.99% of our spend has been on CSR for 10+ years.

2. Upgrading wife's old school AMEX to AMEX Gold which passively gets 4x points for restaurants and groceries, 3x airlines, and 1x everything else. We are moving to a foodie town so this card will actually make much more sense for us over the CSR going forward and the fee is $325 vs $1k.

3. I also have a Chase Rapid Rewards card which I don't use and a Citi AAdvantage card which I use very sparingly just to keep some of the points we have there. With us moving, AA is going to become our primary airline where we are going, so I'm also now interested in the Citi Strata card since they partner with AA. That might make its way into my wallet.
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BOA Premium Rewards, cash back for daily spend
Amex Plat for airlines and FHR (hotel) bookings (5x)
Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries (4x)
Citi AAdvantage Executive MC for airline miles and club membership
Hilton Amex Aspire, business/leisure travel and using FNAs
Marriott Amex Brilliant, same as Hilton but will probably drop soon, not using as much anymore
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A pretty good split between Amex plat and United club card, depending on bonus pts., etc. I try to spend my way to Platinum with United, then it's all Amex.
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Ag CPA said:

BOA Premium Rewards, cash back for daily spend
Amex Plat for airlines and FHR (hotel) bookings (5x)
Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries (4x)
Citi AAdvantage Executive MC for airline miles and club membership
Hilton Amex Aspire, business/leisure travel and using FNAs
Marriott Amex Brilliant, same as Hilton but will probably drop soon, not using as much anymore


Edit: my question came off harsh. Removing.
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Diggity said:

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AMEX BCP 6% on grocery
max 6K annual , only one with a fee $95 but I max it out by putting all groceries, gas (ARCO gift cards), and Amazon gift cards from grocery stores on it

used to have this one, but so many grocery stores (Walmart Grocery, Target. Costco) and any of the delivery services didn't count, so wasn't worth the fee anymore.

Even when I was able to max out the grocery spend, the upside was only $85 per year after the RH Gold card came into play ($360-180-95).
This card comes with the first annual fee waved. What many people do is downgrade as soon as the first annual fee lands and then within a month or so, they regularly report receiving an upgrade offer back to the BCP with another year of waved annual fee. Rinse, repeat, and never pay an annual fee.
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Mega Lops said:

Is there a way yet to assign your digital copies of cards to a category you want to use so that when you pay, there's orchestration which selects the grocery card for the grocery checkout, the fuel spend to another card, etc.

There's a lot of value in time saved for setting up various cards to different spend/merchant categories so you can just pay via mobile without having to remember the correct card every time.

Or at least I think.

And then having a sweet dashboard showing your rewards broken down by card or category.

Pretty sure some of this exists but the automatic selection of card to merchant/category at time of payment is locked down by Big Tech Wallet (Apple and Google).

However I realize manually managing all of this is a super rewarding (no pun intended) pursuit for some. Automation would take the fun out of it for the 0.005% of the population that absolutely rapes the credit card points game.
Im not aware of a digital wallet that can do this, but if you have auto-payments or anywhere that you can pay with the app such as Kroger, Shell, etc., then you could tie a specific card to your account at that place. I spend $400 per month at Kroger and I could use their app at checkout if I wanted to instead of my digital wallet (though I choose not to because I have a dedicated grocery card that's easy to remember).
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Ag CPA said:

BOA Premium Rewards, cash back for daily spend
Amex Plat for airlines and FHR (hotel) bookings (5x)
Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries (4x)
Citi AAdvantage Executive MC for airline miles and club membership
Hilton Amex Aspire, business/leisure travel and using FNAs
Marriott Amex Brilliant, same as Hilton but will probably drop soon, not using as much anymore
My back of napkin math shows over $2k in annual fees. Do you hold or churn these cards?

We're mostly churning big AF cards right now so I'm not one to talk. We have 2 CSRs, Amex Plat, Amex Bus Gold, and Hilton Aspire. All but the Hilton Aspire will get dropped this year, though. And the Aspire will probably go away after we travel next year.
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Jeeper79 said:

Ag CPA said:

BOA Premium Rewards, cash back for daily spend
Amex Plat for airlines and FHR (hotel) bookings (5x)
Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries (4x)
Citi AAdvantage Executive MC for airline miles and club membership
Hilton Amex Aspire, business/leisure travel and using FNAs
Marriott Amex Brilliant, same as Hilton but will probably drop soon, not using as much anymore
My back of napkin math shows over $2k in annual fees. Do you hold or churn these cards?

We're mostly churning big AF cards right now so I'm not one to talk. We have 2 CSRs, Amex Plat, Amex Bus Gold, and Hilton Aspire. All but the Hilton Aspire will get dropped this year, though. And the Aspire will probably go away after we travel next year.


That was my original question more or less. Breakeven on this group seems like it would be challenging without extraordinary spending across all cards.
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Fidelity Signature Rewards

2% cash back on all purchases that goes directly to my Fidelity investment account.

I also setup 100% autopay from the same account. When I see what the bill is going to be, I round that up to the nearest $1k and transfer that much from my checking to Fidelity to cover the cost.

The round-up and the 2% back are my weird way of putting money into my investment account on a regular basis.
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YouBet said:

Jeeper79 said:

Ag CPA said:

BOA Premium Rewards, cash back for daily spend
Amex Plat for airlines and FHR (hotel) bookings (5x)
Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries (4x)
Citi AAdvantage Executive MC for airline miles and club membership
Hilton Amex Aspire, business/leisure travel and using FNAs
Marriott Amex Brilliant, same as Hilton but will probably drop soon, not using as much anymore
My back of napkin math shows over $2k in annual fees. Do you hold or churn these cards?

We're mostly churning big AF cards right now so I'm not one to talk. We have 2 CSRs, Amex Plat, Amex Bus Gold, and Hilton Aspire. All but the Hilton Aspire will get dropped this year, though. And the Aspire will probably go away after we travel next year.


That was my original question more or less. Breakeven on this group seems like it would be challenging without extraordinary spending across all cards.
You have to be an absolute top tier spender in some major bonus categories to come out ahead long term. For most mere mortals, the payback will come from coupon book, lounge access, and airline/hotel/car rental status. In many cases, though, these points programs have lower tier cards for spending and upper tier cards for holding. The best benefit often comes from having one of each.
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deadbq03 said:

Fidelity Signature Rewards

2% cash back on all purchases that goes directly to my Fidelity investment account.

I also setup 100% autopay from the same account. When I see what the bill is going to be, I round that up to the nearest $1k and transfer that much from my checking to Fidelity to cover the cost.

The round-up and the 2% back are my weird way of putting money into my investment account on a regular basis.
Maybe the most fiscally responsible way to use a card. I can do similar with my Robinhood gold, but it dumps into an account dedicated to travel so I'm often emptying it.
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Jeeper79 said:

Ag CPA said:

BOA Premium Rewards, cash back for daily spend
Amex Plat for airlines and FHR (hotel) bookings (5x)
Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries (4x)
Citi AAdvantage Executive MC for airline miles and club membership
Hilton Amex Aspire, business/leisure travel and using FNAs
Marriott Amex Brilliant, same as Hilton but will probably drop soon, not using as much anymore
My back of napkin math shows over $2k in annual fees. Do you hold or churn these cards?

We're mostly churning big AF cards right now so I'm not one to talk. We have 2 CSRs, Amex Plat, Amex Bus Gold, and Hilton Aspire. All but the Hilton Aspire will get dropped this year, though. And the Aspire will probably go away after we travel next year.
don't most cards have direct rebates/kick backs?
Like united club card has $20/month Instacart, $10/month Uber rebate and $50 budget rebate, $200 has rebate... With just a few you can get back most or all of card fee.
Amex Marriott has $25/month restaurant credit, plus the free night in 85k hotel; those wipes out fee easily.
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Currently have United Venture, Amex Surpass and Chase Freedom. Wish I had one that got me lounge access but its not a big deal. We wont be travelling a lot this year via air, mostly road trips on the baggers.
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deadbq03 said:

Fidelity Signature Rewards

2% cash back on all purchases that goes directly to my Fidelity investment account.

I also setup 100% autopay from the same account. When I see what the bill is going to be, I round that up to the nearest $1k and transfer that much from my checking to Fidelity to cover the cost.

The round-up and the 2% back are my weird way of putting money into my investment account on a regular basis.

I have this too. Signed up for the 18 months no interest, plus a bonus cashback.
Since I'm not that interested in travel, makes the most sense for me.

Also have a Penfed that pays 2% cash back.
And UMB Bank Visa pays 3% cash back for gas, groceries, and discount stores [includes Walmart].
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I'm "grandfathered" in to what is effectively a zero fee Capital One Venture. 2X on everything. I'll keep using this card as long as they let me.

Citi AA Executive (Admiral's Club for my family has been worth it for me so far. Although DFW clubs during our recent spring break trip sucked.)

Citi Strata Premier (3X Gas, Groceries, Restaurants. Points now transfer to AA miles)

I'm in the DFW area and have learned I value airport perks more than hotel perks. Currently, American Airlines miles and status offer me the most value when traveling.
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deadbq03 said:

Fidelity Signature Rewards

2% cash back on all purchases that goes directly to my Fidelity investment account.

I also setup 100% autopay from the same account. When I see what the bill is going to be, I round that up to the nearest $1k and transfer that much from my checking to Fidelity to cover the cost.

The round-up and the 2% back are my weird way of putting money into my investment account on a regular basis.

I think this is the ultimate KISS savers set-up. My brother went all in on Fidelity to simplify his life and I think it's a great choice.
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I keep my base cards as Visa. I would only use a non Visa card for a sign up bonus and then cancel it after the bonus.
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That's interesting.

They haven't reached out to me, but I didn't push too hard to get it waived, as I don't spend enough on their designated "grocery" categories.
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Sofi at 2.2%
Target/amazon for the discounts
United for the free bags and travel credit

That's it
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deadbq03 said:

Fidelity Signature Rewards

2% cash back on all purchases that goes directly to my Fidelity investment account.

I also setup 100% autopay from the same account. When I see what the bill is going to be, I round that up to the nearest $1k and transfer that much from my checking to Fidelity to cover the cost.

The round-up and the 2% back are my weird way of putting money into my investment account on a regular basis.


Well, I havent thought of this. We use Fidelity for checking/spending already and that's where I have some of our investment accounts.

Hmm, I will have to look at this.
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reading through all these cards puts even more into light how hard Robinhood has mogged the entire CC industry with their 1st card
3% across the board no fees/categories/limits is still unheard of
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EliteZags said:

reading through all these cards puts even more into light how hard Robinhood has mogged the entire CC industry with their 1st card
3% across the board no fees/categories/limits is still unheard of


I just have a hard time trusting them.
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Exactly, they had to offer that promo because of their brand.

Same reason WeBull always has promos better than the big boys, and places like TradeUp offering insane bonuses.
 
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