Fatrick Reed leaving LIV

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I wonder who will be next. It would also seem to give Bryson leverage for a bigger deal if they want him to stay.
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Patrick*

great news for him. I've always enjoyed his game and he's a stand up dude. Always nice to have more local guys to pull for on tour.
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AustinCountyAg said:

Patrick*

great news for him. I've always enjoyed his game and he's a stand up dude. Always nice to have more local guys to pull for on tour.


Eh...I've heard second hand from a family member who had an encounter with him and his wife that is evidence to the contrary.

And given he'd been one of the most disliked players on tour, been caught cheating multiple times (college and pro), and is estranged from his family I'd say there's enough there to question this assessment.

Oh yeah...He was also caught stealing form his college teammates as well. So yeah...I'm not sure stand up dude applies to Patrick Reed.

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Ag_07 said:

AustinCountyAg said:

Patrick*

great news for him. I've always enjoyed his game and he's a stand up dude. Always nice to have more local guys to pull for on tour.


Eh...I've heard second hand from a family member who had an encounter with him and his wife that is evidence to the contrary.

And given he'd been one of the most disliked players on tour, been caught cheating multiple times (college and pro), and is estranged from his family I'd say there's enough there to question this assessment.

Oh yeah...He was also caught stealing form his college teammates as well. So yeah...I'm not sure stand up dude applies to Patrick Reed.



fair enough.

However, Personally speaking he's been nothing but gracious with me and very talkative. He's also very hands on with a local charity a friend started for his son.
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Have to wonder what the tour is thinking about with Brooks, P Reed and the potential return of Bryson next year. LIV is going international, which, good luck. However, all this talk of not wanting to compete with football, more signature events, smaller fields, etc., you have a lot of bigger names that might be left on the outside.

Seems as though a framework for the '27 season was about to be released. Do they reconsider now that the landscape is changing quickly you might need more opportunities for the bigger names to play, even if they aren't top 60 or whatever?
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Glad he's headed back. The Tour needs a bad guy although Wyndham has been trying to step up for that role
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PGA Tour needs a villain or two.

Brooks leaving LIV was the watershed moment. These guys got their $$$, now they can play for something else.
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class of 03 said:

Have to wonder what the tour is thinking about with Brooks, P Reed and the potential return of Bryson next year. LIV is going international, which, good luck. However, all this talk of not wanting to compete with football, more signature events, smaller fields, etc., you have a lot of bigger names that might be left on the outside.

Seems as though a framework for the '27 season was about to be released. Do they reconsider now that the landscape is changing quickly you might need more opportunities for the bigger names to play, even if they aren't top 60 or whatever?


We're talking about the potential return of probably half a dozen guys over the next couple years. And they will either play themselves into relevance or they won't. Don't see the Tour thinking this requires re-thinking anything.
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That Dubai win was massive for him.
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This is great for the Tour. Rolapp is doing incredible work already. Monahan would have spent months setting a committee of the mules to get opinions from a million people who don't matter.

His focus is clearly on the marketability of the Tour and creating a better product for the fans. Nothing else matters.

Fewer events, fewer guaranteed cards, stronger fields. Hell yes
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The Milkman said:

This is great for the Tour. Rolapp is doing incredible work already. Monahan would have spent months setting a committee of the mules to get opinions from a million people who don't matter.

His focus is clearly on the marketability of the Tour and creating a better product for the fans. Nothing else matters.

Fewer events, fewer guaranteed cards, stronger fields. Hell yes


This is true. He also benefitted from being the new guy who didn't make promises 5 years ago and can legitimately say he wasn't involved in any of that and therefore, isn't looking backward. While Rolapp is doing a good job, just simply getting someone different in that chair that's not tied to the past to navigate the present may have been their best move.
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They made the necessary changes a few years ago to stem the tide of anyone else leaving. Once they did that, what we are seeing now was inevitable. Just had to wait out the contracts of the guys that left.

Monahan certainly made mistakes, but he ultimately fended off an entity that had a bottomless pit of money and was willing to spend it. There's something to be said for that.
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Not that it matters much, but Kevin Na and Hudson Swafford also applied for reinstatement.
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I don't know why, but I like villains on tour. Guys who cut against the grain. Reed fits this bill for me. Guys with actual personality. And guys who piss off Rory.
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Just in time for him to make a run at that RC team for 2027. Captain America is back!
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Can we send them Cantlay?
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Cantlay is kinda a villain, no?
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class of 03 said:

Cantlay is kinda a villain, no?

Need to be at least mildly interesting to be a villain, so no
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Julio von Matterhorn said:

class of 03 said:

Cantlay is kinda a villain, no?

Need to be at least mildly interesting to be a villain, so no

A**hole, yes. Villain no. Rory hates him, so that's good IMO. But zero personality whatsoever and he still let the whole pay for play in the RC be an issue when it didn't have to be.
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Glad Reed is back and can't wait to root against him.
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Nice!
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Don't know if anyone saw the Fox-LIV season kickoff tweet before it was deleted, but they still have Martin "Kraymer" and Dustin "Jonhson"

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Rahm has to stick around to keep his $$$ since he was later to jump over, but the dude is a competitor so this has to start to eat at him.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Rahm has to stick around to keep his $$$ since he was later to jump over, but the dude is a competitor so this has to start to eat at him.


It's been reported (NLU maybe?) that not only does his contract have several more years than most but also that his contract is much more ironclad in LIV's favor than those first contracts to Brooks, etc. were. Apparently, it would be really tough for him to get out of it without it being extremely punitive.

But I agree, he looks miserable.
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All indications are that Rahm isn't happy with LIV golf and his play has reflected that.
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SouthAustinAgSwag said:

I don't know why, but I like villains on tour. Guys who cut against the grain. Reed fits this bill for me. Guys with actual personality. And guys who piss off Rory.


We just need more players on tour who make you feel something. Good or bad.

No one feels anything about Eric Cole or Lanto Griffin
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DannyDuberstein said:

Rahm has to stick around to keep his $$$ since he was later to jump over, but the dude is a competitor so this has to start to eat at him.
Rahm also prolly go twice the amount or more of brooks and Reed type paychecks. He will survive
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I'm sure he got a ton more and am not worried about his survival lol. But it does seem to have taken its toll on him and there's an edge missing now. He's a fiery competitor and those Spanish golfers are always chasing Seve's legacy. Burning some prime years with an edge missing
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He thought everyone would kiss and make up if he went. Now hes stuck wasting some prime years of his career.
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Spot on
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For the most part, I agree. Although I think we need more that I want to root against. There are so many players I like and root for, it's good to have some heels like Reed that I can root against when they go head to head with someone I like.
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The Milkman said:

SouthAustinAgSwag said:

I don't know why, but I like villains on tour. Guys who cut against the grain. Reed fits this bill for me. Guys with actual personality. And guys who piss off Rory.


We just need more players on tour who make you feel something. Good or bad.

No one feels anything about Eric Cole or Lanto Griffin


Great example. I have nothing against Eric Cole, but he plays every week and gets decent tv time, but is just so vanilla and uninteresting.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Glad he's headed back. The Tour needs a bad guy although Wyndham has been trying to step up for that role


Wyndham has been doing a pretty decent job at it, but Reed is another level for sure.
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The Milkman said:

SouthAustinAgSwag said:

I don't know why, but I like villains on tour. Guys who cut against the grain. Reed fits this bill for me. Guys with actual personality. And guys who piss off Rory.


We just need more players on tour who make you feel something. Good or bad.

No one feels anything about Eric Cole or Lanto Griffin

This is what LIV took from the PGA Tour. Even Scotty doesn't exactly make you feel something other than he is the best golfer since Tiger but the personality on the course is blah at best.

I do wonder if Reed can get back to anywhere near being a top level golfer on tour. At least he should get some TV time since he is viewed as the biggest villain in pro golf.
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