Bryson will be back in a year - this story was posted Monday

https://www.thescore.com/news/3470015



Bryson on 72:

And from Tyrell Hatton below, guys are going to say the right thing now, but almost none of them wanted this move to 72



But Rahm was one of those pushing for it and would obviously have some pull. He had to be one of the 3

Wait till the yups at the bottom of these fields are 30 strokes behind Rahm after 4 rounds.

Chipotlemonger said:

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...OWGR had set definitions that they failed to meet. Those definitions existed before LIV was ever formed.

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Writing this again so you can reread it.

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Yes all of the PGA tour stops abide by the OWGR and LIV not getting them had nothing to do with the fact that the head of the OWGR is also the PGA tour commissioner.

Ian Barker is the head of the OGWR. He's a euro, not a PGAT guy.

Trevor Immelman is actually head of the OWGR board. I've listened to several interviews with him on this topic and they have been more than fair throughout the process.

The biggest strike against LIV is no one ever makes the case for why LIV should get points. They make the case that Rahm, Bryson, etc are world class players and should get points. No doubt they are world class players but, as Brooks just proved, you can't simply look at who happens to be on a tour at a particular point in time in determining whether they should get points. You have to make the case that the structure of the tour (how you qualify to be on it, how you can lose your spot through poor play, the format of the tourneys, etc.) warrants points. No one ever attempts to make this argument.

jja79 said:

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I agree golf is less entertaining than it was 5 years ago. I've gone from watching a lot of golf to watching hardly any.

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I don't disagree
But I think what I watch is better. I know that certain events are going to have good fields, and I turn those tournaments on. The others I kind of forget about, especially through the fall.

P Reed off to another hot start this week. Would love to see him play like this in Augusta

What are you smoking?

Chipotlemonger said:

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What are you smoking?

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Don't you know? A tour that you have to grind your way through lower tours to be a part of, can easily lose your card through bad play, and has a cut in the majority of their tourneys, but holds a couple small field tourneys (that, ironically, you only get into by your good play in those other tourneys) is exactly like an invitation-only league that hands out spots for-checks notes-being Korean or being a reclusive man of mystery who hasn't picked up a golf club in a decade that then allows them to play for years in no cut events against about 10 good players, a bunch of has-beens, and some never-will-bes. They're obviously the same and you must be one of the colluders if you can't see that.

Either they have rules or they don't. They've given points for 54 hole tournaments and no cut tournaments for the pga tour. Owgr just makes up the rules as they go just like the pga tour does. (Because they're run by the same person)

Just scroll down to Tour Eligibility for their rules, the vast majority of which have been in place since long before LIV and let me know which ones the Tour doesn't meet and which ones LIV does.

https://www.owgr.com/how-the-ranking-works

RogerFurlong said:

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They've given points ...for the pga tour

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I have bolded the important part. The PGA tour is getting points in instances due to the combative nature of getting on the tour itself, and the competition involved. For example...Anthony Kim off the couch isn't getting a shot on the PGA tour nearly a decade since he last competed.

Reed is running up the score on the DP Tour. He leads by 1 after 36 in Qatar. Should have no problem making the top 10 qualifier for PGAT membership next year.

Chipotlemonger said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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They've given points ...for the pga tour

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I have bolded the important part. The PGA tour is getting points in instances due to the combative nature of getting on the tour itself, and the competition involved. For example...Anthony Kim off the couch isn't getting a shot on the PGA tour nearly a decade since he last competed.

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Anthony Kim is a pretty cool story though. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins a tournament in the next two years.

RogerFurlong said:

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Chipotlemonger said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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They've given points ...for the pga tour

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I have bolded the important part. The PGA tour is getting points in instances due to the combative nature of getting on the tour itself, and the competition involved. For example...Anthony Kim off the couch isn't getting a shot on the PGA tour nearly a decade since he last competed.

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Anthony Kim is a pretty cool story though. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins a tournament in the next two years.

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Hasn't he been finishing near the bottom in every single LIV event?

I Am A Critic said:

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98Ag99Grad said:

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Reed is running up the score on the DP Tour. He leads by 1 after 36 in Qatar. Should have no problem making the top 10 qualifier for PGAT membership next year.

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We have very different definitions of "running up the score." Leading by 1 is not it.

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3rd week in a row. Maybe dominating would be better. he's clearly a step above the run of the mill DP player.

Quinn said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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Anthony Kim is a pretty cool story though. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins a tournament in the next two years.

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Hasn't he been finishing near the bottom in every single LIV event?

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Yes. He's been showing flashes as of late though. He finished 5th at one of the saudi events in November. We'll see. It would be a great story and pretty hilarious if he left LIV and went to the PGA tour if he get's it 100 percent turned around.

JCA1 said:

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The biggest strike against LIV is no one ever makes the case for why LIV should get points. They make the case that Rahm, Bryson, etc are world class players and should get points. No doubt they are world class players but, as Brooks just proved, you can't simply look at who happens to be on a tour at a particular point in time in determining whether they should get points. You have to make the case that the structure of the tour (how you qualify to be on it, how you can lose your spot through poor play, the format of the tourneys, etc.) warrants points. No one ever attempts to make this argument.

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So LIV's 7th ranked player going 1, 2, 1 in 3 DPWT tournaments would delegitimizes DPWT getting more points than LIV.