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TAMU1990 said:Oh, I agree. I wouldn't have pulled Jackson until he gave up a base runner. He was cruising. I guarantee you Earley is thinking about that late into the night.OlsenAg15 said:and, respectfully, two of those 4 baggers were after an egregious pitching change, or maybe two egregious pitching changes..TAMU1990 said:
I see the team fighting. They need to keep doing that.
Bama had more flyball outs by a wide margin (and some K's) than contact hits (singles, doubles) etc. They had 4 homers and two were after free passes.
I just wanted to point out there were a ton of fly ball outs for Alabama.
Based on his answers to the press, Early is giving no second thoughts to his pitching moves. They were absolutely the correct moves.
I saw a guy who was mad. Probably mad at himself in hindsight. He wasn't going to throw Rudis (or any player under the bus).BadMoonRisin said:
You think this guy is in over his head?
What gives you that idea? Other than...well, his (non)answers, his body language, his eye movement, his posture....but other than that...
The architect of this was speechless? Tell me more!
Two solo jacks in back to back pitches, after pulling a dude that was mowing them down in the late innings.
I'd be pretty speechless after that move as well.
Two solo jacks in back to back pitches, after pulling a dude that was mowing them down in the late innings.
I'd be pretty speechless after that move as well.
Same thing - he's not going to throw Rudis under the bus and he's not going to admit he made a mistake. He said they liked the matchup. He was relying too much on the analytics instead of staying with the hot hand (Jackson).Fquin said:TAMU1990 said:Oh, I agree. I wouldn't have pulled Jackson until he gave up a base runner. He was cruising. I guarantee you Earley is thinking about that late into the night.OlsenAg15 said:and, respectfully, two of those 4 baggers were after an egregious pitching change, or maybe two egregious pitching changes..TAMU1990 said:
I see the team fighting. They need to keep doing that.
Bama had more flyball outs by a wide margin (and some K's) than contact hits (singles, doubles) etc. They had 4 homers and two were after free passes.
I just wanted to point out there were a ton of fly ball outs for Alabama.
Based on his answers to the press, Early is giving no second thoughts to his pitching moves. They were absolutely the correct moves.
I can safely say I've seen far more pitching collapses coming from trying to scheme matchups rather than hot pitchers being left in one too many batters. ALWAYS RIDE THE HOT HAND BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW HOW DIALED IN THE NEXT PITCHER WILL BE. Tonight was the perfect example of it.
Besides, it becomes obvious when the hot pitcher is cooling off because he'll start loading the bases with walks or singles.
Besides, it becomes obvious when the hot pitcher is cooling off because he'll start loading the bases with walks or singles.
It's not just him... it's all the generals we hire, bad AD, poor board of regents, etc that are making the decisions.
We bring in unqualified people and you naturally get lackluster results. Not sure why people think things will change when you keep making the same faults over and over again. They are fortunate they have the second richest public school in the country (after TU) and can squander billions (sports, academics etc). Just imagine how highly ranked we would be in sports, academics, etc if we had good leadership. All the other schools do a lot more with a lot less.
We bring in unqualified people and you naturally get lackluster results. Not sure why people think things will change when you keep making the same faults over and over again. They are fortunate they have the second richest public school in the country (after TU) and can squander billions (sports, academics etc). Just imagine how highly ranked we would be in sports, academics, etc if we had good leadership. All the other schools do a lot more with a lot less.
TAMU1990 said:I saw a guy who was mad. Probably mad at himself in hindsight. He wasn't going to throw Rudis (or any player under the bus).BadMoonRisin said:
You think this guy is in over his head?
What gives you that idea? Other than...well, his (non)answers, his body language, his eye movement, his posture....but other than that...
You don't have to throw any players under a bus to admit you made a mistake. Misusing your talented players isn't throwing them under the bus. Throwing your long reliever in as a closer is misusing his talent.
Two observations…..
How has Earley seemed to have failed from learning how to coach when he had an elite mentor in Schloss? Makes you think Schloss doesn't actually share Jack with his assistants.
Big red flag was when we hired the Washington head coach to be on staff wasn't it. And where in the hell has his advice to Earley gone?
How has Earley seemed to have failed from learning how to coach when he had an elite mentor in Schloss? Makes you think Schloss doesn't actually share Jack with his assistants.
Big red flag was when we hired the Washington head coach to be on staff wasn't it. And where in the hell has his advice to Earley gone?
threeanout said:That move was absolutely mind boggling.NICU Dad said:So was punch hitting your best offensive catcher for Harrison.The Marksman said:
Taking out Luke Jackson was criminal
I get PH there if you don't like the match up, but damn use Binderup or Beregevin before Harrison.
You misspelled bottling.
Jackson got 4 outs on 14 pitches and got pulled. This was a major coaching blunder. Jackson did not look happy leaving the game, rightfully so. Earley is not only losing games but **** like this will cause him to lose the players as well.
Brutal season thus far with the same roster as last year minus normal attrition. I see zero signs of improvement. I just don't think hitters forget how to hit. Maybe we turn the tide today.
I mentioned this on another thread, but I have absolutely seen Schloss make moves where he got cute with matchups in big games that made me scratch my head. I don't think any head coach is immune to that...but especially early on in their career, trying to over manage a game is a temptation that many coaches have, instead of being patient and letting the players control their own destiny.
Bottom line is we had one of the best coaches in the country. Seemingly, there was nothing we could do to salvage that situation… it was what it was. But to go from Schloss to an unproven coach never made sense to me. Why would our program value shop? There were so many options. IMO, you never worry about talent or the short-term (next season) in hiring a coach.
At this level, you hire a coach with proof that he can win, and you let the other stuff (talent) fall into place. HC is a big job, and we are living on the job training in real time.
At this level, you hire a coach with proof that he can win, and you let the other stuff (talent) fall into place. HC is a big job, and we are living on the job training in real time.
Bobaloo said:
Brutal season thus far with the same roster as last year minus normal attrition. I see zero signs of improvement. I just don't think hitters forget how to hit. Maybe we turn the tide today.
Look closely - this is definitely NOT the same roster. Only Kent and Laviolette remain from last year. With Sorrell and Grahovac injured and Schott only able to DH, we practically have a completely different team. Only 2 of our 8 position player starters were in the line up last year.
Compare the starters from the CWS title game...
- 1B - Burton
- 2B - Kent
- 3B - Grahovac
- SS - Camarillo
- LF - Sorrell
- CF - Chestnut
- RF - Laviolette
- C - Appel
...to the starters in last night's game:
- 1B - Kash
- 2B - Farr
- 3B - Hensler
- SS - Kent (returner from last year)
- LF - Kiel
- CF - Laviolette (returner)
- RF - George
- C - Galloway
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
Our options to hire a top coach so late in the transfer portal were limited. Vitello listened to our offer because if he'd taken the job, he would have figured that he could hold the roster together for the most part. But, every other coach you care to name would have looked at this as a huge roll of the dice. Take the job and see your roster decimated in the transfer portal, then you take a beating in year one and constantly have to bear the comparisons to the last guy.The Collective said:
Bottom line is we had one of the best coaches in the country. Seemingly, there was nothing we could do to salvage that situation… it was what it was. But to go from Schloss to an unproven coach never made sense to me. Why would our program value shop? There were so many options. IMO, you never worry about talent or the short-term (next season) in hiring a coach.
At this level, you hire a coach with proof that he can win, and you let the other stuff (talent) fall into place. HC is a big job, and we are living on the job training in real time.
The only way we could have had a wide selection was to fire Schloss in April. It would have tanked the season and made us look silly (we also would have had to pay Schloss for the privilege of screwing us).
With the way the transfer portal works, there is a window for coaches looking to move up, bit it starts closing after the super regional.
Kent is upgrade over Camarillo.
Hensler is scratch vs Grahovic
Kash is an upgrade over Burton
Kiel is major upgrade vs Chestnut
LaViolet hurt in Omaha vs LaViolet now is probably a wash
Galloway major fall off from Appel
(why we couldn't recruit a better catcher is beyond me. Hey want to play for title contender everyone is back).
Farr is about as good as Kent was during the season at 2B but a fall off from Kent at the WS.
George is a fall off from Sorrell.
Biggest fall off is in the head coach and pitching coach positions. Check the guys record out in Austin if you don't believe me.
Hensler is scratch vs Grahovic
Kash is an upgrade over Burton
Kiel is major upgrade vs Chestnut
LaViolet hurt in Omaha vs LaViolet now is probably a wash
Galloway major fall off from Appel
(why we couldn't recruit a better catcher is beyond me. Hey want to play for title contender everyone is back).
Farr is about as good as Kent was during the season at 2B but a fall off from Kent at the WS.
George is a fall off from Sorrell.
Biggest fall off is in the head coach and pitching coach positions. Check the guys record out in Austin if you don't believe me.
so looking at the lineup A&M is rolling out...
who made the evaluations (or misevaluations) of the transfer players?
Kash, Bergevin, Galloway, George, Bear
they look very average -- and that's a problem
who made the evaluations (or misevaluations) of the transfer players?
Kash, Bergevin, Galloway, George, Bear
they look very average -- and that's a problem
Freshcorn was probably the option for the 10th.
I'm guessing the pitching coach had some input into the pitching changes, I don't think it's all on Earley.
And, yes, I realize it's his final decision.
RR
I'm guessing the pitching coach had some input into the pitching changes, I don't think it's all on Earley.
And, yes, I realize it's his final decision.
RR
Kash on paper should be an upgrade over Burton, but Ted hit .300 for most of the year and was in the middle of the order all season.
Kash has been picking it up lately but he's barely hitting .250 with only a handful of HRs which was what he was known for coming out of Tech.
Replacing Appel was a huge task and unfortunately we don't have anyone close to him behind the plate or in the batters box.
Kash has been picking it up lately but he's barely hitting .250 with only a handful of HRs which was what he was known for coming out of Tech.
Replacing Appel was a huge task and unfortunately we don't have anyone close to him behind the plate or in the batters box.
Yes catcher was a big fail we better be recruiting now go after the Cal Poly catcher he's very good way better than what we have. Galloway has some decent AB's at least but this is the biggest piece missing from the two teams.
Are you suggesting this is a 1 year experiment?
and Burton had 2 big walk-off at-bats in conference play last year
both in extra innings if I recall correctly
both in extra innings if I recall correctly
He did. He came up huge for us multiple times throughout the season and him and Appel always seemed to get timely hits when we needed them most.
Braden Montgomery is the biggest piece missing, just ahead of Appel.
LaViolette and Schott are having seasons (thus far) not even close to 2024.
We miss Grahovac's RBI / HR production.
We knew we'd have a hard time replacing Aschenbeck and Cortez, we haven't come close yet.
RR
LaViolette and Schott are having seasons (thus far) not even close to 2024.
We miss Grahovac's RBI / HR production.
We knew we'd have a hard time replacing Aschenbeck and Cortez, we haven't come close yet.
RR
MMantle said:
Braden Montgomery is the biggest piece missing, just ahead of Appel.
LaViolette and Schott are having seasons (thus far) not even close to 2024.
We miss Grahovac's RBI / HR production.
We knew we'd have a hard time replacing Aschenbeck and Cortez, we haven't come close yet.
I disagree Appel is the biggest loss. Montgomery was out most of the post season and was already going down production wise. Appel's defense and his bat are dearly missed. Just my opinion
RR
The excuses are very Aggie esk. Been working on next season since 1939.
Preseason poll #1. That means people who get paid to write about college baseball thought we were the nost likely candidate to win it all. If we don't win today we likely won't be ranked. You can't tell me Grahovic, Sorrell, and Stewart are the difference.
Preseason poll #1. That means people who get paid to write about college baseball thought we were the nost likely candidate to win it all. If we don't win today we likely won't be ranked. You can't tell me Grahovic, Sorrell, and Stewart are the difference.
And Appel
I hate tu. It's in my blood.
htownag08 said:
I've never been out on a coach after year one…but man…if this is what you field with this much talent, we may need to move on quickly.
If we don't make a regional then I'd move on and have a full coaching search. Dont go with the players choice to "hold a roster together". Go for a full search and get a top guy or at least a guy like Heefner from DBU who has been good with less talent
twk said:Our options to hire a top coach so late in the transfer portal were limited. Vitello listened to our offer because if he'd taken the job, he would have figured that he could hold the roster together for the most part. But, every other coach you care to name would have looked at this as a huge roll of the dice. Take the job and see your roster decimated in the transfer portal, then you take a beating in year one and constantly have to bear the comparisons to the last guy.The Collective said:
Bottom line is we had one of the best coaches in the country. Seemingly, there was nothing we could do to salvage that situation… it was what it was. But to go from Schloss to an unproven coach never made sense to me. Why would our program value shop? There were so many options. IMO, you never worry about talent or the short-term (next season) in hiring a coach.
At this level, you hire a coach with proof that he can win, and you let the other stuff (talent) fall into place. HC is a big job, and we are living on the job training in real time.
The only way we could have had a wide selection was to fire Schloss in April. It would have tanked the season and made us look silly (we also would have had to pay Schloss for the privilege of screwing us).
With the way the transfer portal works, there is a window for coaches looking to move up, bit it starts closing after the super regional.
Correct - we were stuck. It was Vitello as #1. We should have offered $4million for the guy and all of the facility upgrades - make Tennessee pony up.
To me the next best option was Vaughn and Earley as Asst head coach if he would have agreed to it. Otherwise, it was Earley. I hope he figures this out. I'm pulling for him because the alternative (the next 2-3 years) is worse
The Marksman said:
Taking out Luke Jackson was criminal
When losing, no matter what a coach does, he's going to get scrutinized. If he'd have left Jackson in, and he gave up a home run, you'd have said he left him in too long.
Hustle, hit, never quit!
We knew schloss was up to something and the only option our leadership came up with was to throw a Hail Mary at the coach who just beat us? That's next level imcompetence in the ad. National runner up, a loaded roster, a motivated nil donor base and new facilities coming would have been attractive to just about anyone and yet we end up hiring a first time head coach at the behest of a player or two who would be on the roster a max of one or two years anyway.
Freaking negligence in the ad. SMH.
Freaking negligence in the ad. SMH.
Agryan00 said:
The excuses are very Aggie esk. Been working on next season since 1939.
Preseason poll #1. That means people who get paid to write about college baseball thought we were the nost likely candidate to win it all. If we don't win today we likely won't be ranked. You can't tell me Grahovic, Sorrell, and Stewart are the difference.
Well, we would be more competitive with those three. I don't see Jace staying down all year and Schott has been doing better as of late.
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