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If schools arent open in September its going to be really hard for School Board Trustees to ask for more money from taxpayers next go around. From what I've heard our ISD is already concerned with future budget shortages outlooks. Hard to justify spending money on buildings, classrooms and teachers when none are being used to their fullest capabilities.

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Hard to justify paying expensive tuition for virtual classes, colleges are underestimating how many people will sit out a semester. Incoming freshman will delay a year or semester

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AggieOO said:

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i said it is not likely at this point, but if you don't think it is at least a possibility, you have your head in the sand.

You can google the numerous articles where schools are planning for this exact scenario.

Again, at this point, i don't think it is likely, but a second wave of this crap is a possibility the most likely outcome.

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75AG said:

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Baba Booey said:

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75AG said:

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We may start school in September. We may start football and extracurricular activities in September. But IF a second wave hits, this current shutdown will look like child's play.

Nothing will be normal again until we have a vaccine. That's the only truth.

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This is also not true. You need to do some research on the concept of herd immunity.

There is a stickied thread on the last few pages that talks a lot about this, and directly how you are wrong.

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You and I have never posted, so I'll provide you some info. I'm in the biotech industry. I speak daily to leaders in the biotech world - the people who are working on these vaccines development . They do not know at what level herd immunity will impact this virus. So don't tell me I'm wrong. We are potentially tens of millions of immunizations away from achieving herd immunity.

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75AG said:

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It is all hypothetical at this point. I provided no anecdotal data in my post.

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cone said:

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Baba Booey said:

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75AG said:

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It is all hypothetical at this point. I provided no anecdotal data in my post.

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Yes, you think because you are in the biotech field you have a leg up on most.

Let me show you:

My neighbor's uncle is on Fauci's staff and said that there are 13 different vaccines that are a week away from being mass produced and sent to every doctor's office in America....

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now you're just being as *******

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AggieOO said:

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I'll get labeled as a fear monger, since that's the term that is thrown around at anyone who doesn't believe the economy will be booming in a few weeks, but...I'm not scared or trying to instill fear in others. I am literally, every day at work, helping people to prepare and create a plan in case the current situation extends. It is 100% having a plan in place to be prepared. I have a few customers who actually had a Pandemic plan in place and put it into action when Covid hit the US. They are in pretty good shape. When I mention the possibility that things might drag out, I am automatically met with "there will be repercussions. The economy will tank!" You don't think that I realize there will be impacts of schools and/or businesses remaining closed? My wife is currently downstairs with our toddler because she's on furlough, while I work from home because I can't travel for work. I have daily conversations with customers who are laying off workers and have budgets frozen because they have locations worldwide that are 100% shut down. Believe me, I understand this is NOT good for the economy or our general mental well-being. I completely agree with those retorts. That doesn't mean, I can't also entertain the idea that it is a good idea to have a plan in case this don't return to normalcy in the next few weeks or even the next couple months. Having a plan in place might actually help alleviate a small part of the economic issues.

For those who think that there is ZERO chance of this thing dragging out. What I don't understand is this:

What if I'm wrong? People wasted some time putting together a plan that doesn't end up getting used. We return to normalcy, at least for the most part. Everyone is happy. I sincerely hope this is the case.

What if you are wrong? (not that you will even entertain the idea that you are wrong)

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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Remote schooling =/= our economy falling apart. I really shouldn't have to explain this.

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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Remote schooling =/= our economy falling apart. I really shouldn't have to explain this.

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You don't get it. This isn't about remote schooling or conventional schooling. If in 8 months we are still quarantined, the economy is in trouble.. this is REALLY simple stuff, dude.

And yes, there is a difference between quarantined and large masses gathering.. however, with the way this thing spreads, we will have a conclusion either way before school starts back up.

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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Remote schooling =/= our economy falling apart. I really shouldn't have to explain this.

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You don't get it. This isn't about remote schooling or conventional schooling. If in 8 months we are still quarantined, the economy is in trouble.. this is REALLY simple stuff, dude.

And yes, there is a difference between quarantined and large masses gathering.. however, with the way this thing spreads, we will have a conclusion either way before school starts back up.

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Newsflash - the economy is in trouble, quarantine or no quarantine. Yes, this is really simple and I don't think you fully understand the reality of what's happening.

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Keegan99 said:

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How exactly do parents go to work if the kids are stuck at home?

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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Remote schooling =/= our economy falling apart. I really shouldn't have to explain this.

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You don't get it. This isn't about remote schooling or conventional schooling. If in 8 months we are still quarantined, the economy is in trouble.. this is REALLY simple stuff, dude.

And yes, there is a difference between quarantined and large masses gathering.. however, with the way this thing spreads, we will have a conclusion either way before school starts back up.

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Newsflash - the economy is in trouble, quarantine or no quarantine. Yes, this is really simple and I don't think you fully understand the reality of what's happening.

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LOL, and you think I don't understand? Maybe you should talk to some financial analysts before you spout off. I think there is one on this very thread.

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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Remote schooling =/= our economy falling apart. I really shouldn't have to explain this.

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You don't get it. This isn't about remote schooling or conventional schooling. If in 8 months we are still quarantined, the economy is in trouble.. this is REALLY simple stuff, dude.

And yes, there is a difference between quarantined and large masses gathering.. however, with the way this thing spreads, we will have a conclusion either way before school starts back up.

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Newsflash - the economy is in trouble, quarantine or no quarantine. Yes, this is really simple and I don't think you fully understand the reality of what's happening.

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LOL, and you think I don't understand? Maybe you should talk to some financial analysts before you spout off. I think there is one on this very thread.

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I need to talk to a financial analyst before I give an opinion? Huh?

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Baba Booey said:

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TxAG#2011 said:

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Some people are still in denial it seems. America as we know it will be no more if schools don't go back in 8 months? Really?

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Yes... really? You think the economy can withstand 6 more months of this?

Second question, do you know what an economy is our how it works? It requires more than just upper middle class jobs with people who can work remotely.

You are the one in denial.

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Remote schooling =/= our economy falling apart. I really shouldn't have to explain this.

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You don't get it. This isn't about remote schooling or conventional schooling. If in 8 months we are still quarantined, the economy is in trouble.. this is REALLY simple stuff, dude.

And yes, there is a difference between quarantined and large masses gathering.. however, with the way this thing spreads, we will have a conclusion either way before school starts back up.

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Newsflash - the economy is in trouble, quarantine or no quarantine. Yes, this is really simple and I don't think you fully understand the reality of what's happening.

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LOL, and you think I don't understand? Maybe you should talk to some financial analysts before you spout off. I think there is one on this very thread.

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I need to talk to a financial analyst before I give an opinion? Huh?

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As long as you know you are clearly stating an opinion and not facts, then I guess not. I just know that a much more educated person on the economy would be happy to explain market fluctuations to you because it seems like you don't understand.

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Baba Booey said:

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AggieOO said:

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I'll get labeled as a fear monger, since that's the term that is thrown around at anyone who doesn't believe the economy will be booming in a few weeks, but...I'm not scared or trying to instill fear in others. I am literally, every day at work, helping people to prepare and create a plan in case the current situation extends. It is 100% having a plan in place to be prepared. I have a few customers who actually had a Pandemic plan in place and put it into action when Covid hit the US. They are in pretty good shape. When I mention the possibility that things might drag out, I am automatically met with "there will be repercussions. The economy will tank!" You don't think that I realize there will be impacts of schools and/or businesses remaining closed? My wife is currently downstairs with our toddler because she's on furlough, while I work from home because I can't travel for work. I have daily conversations with customers who are laying off workers and have budgets frozen because they have locations worldwide that are 100% shut down. Believe me, I understand this is NOT good for the economy or our general mental well-being. I completely agree with those retorts. That doesn't mean, I can't also entertain the idea that it is a good idea to have a plan in case this don't return to normalcy in the next few weeks or even the next couple months. Having a plan in place might actually help alleviate a small part of the economic issues.

For those who think that there is ZERO chance of this thing dragging out. What I don't understand is this:

What if I'm wrong? People wasted some time putting together a plan that doesn't end up getting used. We return to normalcy, at least for the most part. Everyone is happy. I sincerely hope this is the case.

What if you are wrong? (not that you will even entertain the idea that you are wrong)

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Your first post in this thread was you needing to throw out that schools won't open again in 2020, and your last post is talking about convincing people to better financially plan.

Do you really think anyone here would argue that people shouldn't financially plan better?

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OldCamp said:

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Most parents that I know that still have jobs are making plans to put their kids in day care or small private schools next month.
People who are still working either remote or in essential businesses simply cant do their jobs and take care of their kids.
If schools dont open in the fall I would imagine a surge in day care attendance as parents un-enroll their children.

Personally, I'd like to see neighborhoods and communities create small, home school / private school systems which is very similar to how early America educated their youth.

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AggieOO said:

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Baba Booey said:

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AggieOO said:

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I'll get labeled as a fear monger, since that's the term that is thrown around at anyone who doesn't believe the economy will be booming in a few weeks, but...I'm not scared or trying to instill fear in others. I am literally, every day at work, helping people to prepare and create a plan in case the current situation extends. It is 100% having a plan in place to be prepared. I have a few customers who actually had a Pandemic plan in place and put it into action when Covid hit the US. They are in pretty good shape. When I mention the possibility that things might drag out, I am automatically met with "there will be repercussions. The economy will tank!" You don't think that I realize there will be impacts of schools and/or businesses remaining closed? My wife is currently downstairs with our toddler because she's on furlough, while I work from home because I can't travel for work. I have daily conversations with customers who are laying off workers and have budgets frozen because they have locations worldwide that are 100% shut down. Believe me, I understand this is NOT good for the economy or our general mental well-being. I completely agree with those retorts. That doesn't mean, I can't also entertain the idea that it is a good idea to have a plan in case this don't return to normalcy in the next few weeks or even the next couple months. Having a plan in place might actually help alleviate a small part of the economic issues.

For those who think that there is ZERO chance of this thing dragging out. What I don't understand is this:

What if I'm wrong? People wasted some time putting together a plan that doesn't end up getting used. We return to normalcy, at least for the most part. Everyone is happy. I sincerely hope this is the case.

What if you are wrong? (not that you will even entertain the idea that you are wrong)

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Your first post in this thread was you needing to throw out that schools won't open again in 2020, and your last post is talking about convincing people to better financially plan.

Do you really think anyone here would argue that people shouldn't financially plan better?

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no, my first post mentioned that, even though I didn't think it was going to happen, there was a small possibility of schools not opening and people were planning for it.

And the most recent post was not completely about people planning better around their finances. ISDs and Higher Ed is part of my customer base as well. Them having a good plan in place on the small chance they need to enact it, could help parents who need to get back to work. What that plan is exactly? I don't know at this point. That is what people are trying to figure out.

You want to disagree with me on one point and feel the need to show everyone how unintelligent they are, even though we agree on most points. Stop cherry picking. Or are you just not going to address the question of what happens on the small chance you are wrong?

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jenn96 said:

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Back to actual discussion - the Washington Post has a copy of a preliminary plan that the Whute House is working on for slowly re-opening the economy. Some excepts:

The plan lays out three phases: Preparing the nation to reopen with a national communication campaign and community readiness assessment until May 1. Then, the effort through May 15 would involve ramping up manufacturing of testing kits and personal protective equipment and increasing emergency funding. Then staged reopenings would begin, depending on local conditions. The plan does not give dates for reopenings but specified "not before May 1."

The first priority, according to the CDC response document, is to "reopen community settings where children are cared for, including K-12 schools, daycares, and locally attended summer camps, to allow the workforce to return to work. Other community settings will follow with careful monitoring for increased transmission that exceeds the public health and health care systems."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/14/cdc-fema-have-created-plan-reopen-america-heres-what-it-says/

All preliminary and they''re working on it but something like this is what will happen in my opinion. If we have a rebound of cases, then we'll assess as they happen. Plenty of folks will just stay home and social distance themselves. But until schools and child care facilities are back in session every industry is hampered.

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AggieOO said:

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so you don't think that even is schools aren't open, we won't find a way to pivot and get pieces of the economy back open? Or are you assuming/answering the question under the assumption that we will be exactly where we are today (or worse) in august?

I believe that even if schools aren't open, we, as a society, will continue to adjust things and find ways to move forward. I'm not saying the economy will be booming if that is the case, but we aren't just going to sit on our hands either.

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I do not trust my neighborhood to be able to do that

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I do not trust my neighborhood to be able to do that

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This obviously depends on where you live.
I trust my neighborhood far more than my bureaucratic, liberal school district.
In any event, many of us simply dont have an option. Parents are having to choose between caring for their kids at home or going to work.

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