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TxAG#2011 said:Are you aware there are significant unemployment benefits as well? Additional assistance for people with children? There most certainly be government aid for the people you are describing which I am sure at this point is yourself.Baba Booey said:TxAG#2011 said:Yea, I get that you are desperate but there is a reason the government is handing out free money every which way. People who can't get to work because of remote schooling are going to get money.Baba Booey said:TxAG#2011 said:
While many parents can be at risk of losing their jobs for no remote work I am sure there are plenty more parents in the "at risk" category. Why on earth would any of those parents send their kids to school?
As usual the economic doomsayers can't understand this is a health issue and "opening it back up" doesn't mean the virus is going away.
You need to read posts above.
People who have to work to survive are not "Economic doomsdayers".
LMFAO. $1200-$1700 for single mom's not working?
You really don't get it dude.
Dude, you really don't get it. And your feeble insults about something you have no clue about are sad. Like I mentioned, I won't be getting any funding from the government. I don't qualify.
You've spent all morning crawling over this thread attacking anyone who disagrees with you but sure, you don't qualify. Sure.
I probably am a bit biased as I know many home schooling parents, some who have over 5 kids in their home. Yes they have a full time stay at home, so that is going to make a big difference obviously.
Things seem out of the realm of possibility when we look at them from our coddled lifestyles, but there are always options and ways to get by. God forbid one parent stay at home permanently and the other work.
Kids right now are dealing with a complete upheaval in their lives, as are their parents. It seems insane to imagine doing it long term. But people always seem to be able to adapt and overcome. Routines can be established, and norms can be set.
No one wants this to be the case, but life sometimes forces us to deal with things like this.
Things seem out of the realm of possibility when we look at them from our coddled lifestyles, but there are always options and ways to get by. God forbid one parent stay at home permanently and the other work.
Kids right now are dealing with a complete upheaval in their lives, as are their parents. It seems insane to imagine doing it long term. But people always seem to be able to adapt and overcome. Routines can be established, and norms can be set.
No one wants this to be the case, but life sometimes forces us to deal with things like this.
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I think it is a risk analysis for most people.Quote:
As usual the economic doomsayers can't understand this is a health issue and "opening it back up" doesn't mean the virus is going away.
I know that driving on highways carries a risk. 40,000 people die every year from accidents. To me, this is an acceptable risk to take so I get in my car every day and drive to work.
The mortality rate from COVID for my age group are pretty low. So many like me will have to decide if the risk is acceptable.
I think many will decide that the risk of getting sick falls into an acceptable range and they will go about their lives. For others, they may decide that the risk is far too great and they should continue to shelter in place.
It's not that simple though. You going out driving only puts you at risk. You have to be on the road to be at risk.Quote:
The mortality rate from COVID for my age group are pretty low. So many like me will have to decide if the risk is acceptable.
While CV puts you and everyone you come into contact with, regardless of whether they went out or wanted to take the risk, at risk.
So, if you are willing to take the risk AND isolate yourself from your family and friends, especially those that are at risk for complications, then it might be similar to driving.
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People who dont want to catch COVID should stay home.Quote:
While CV puts you and everyone you come into contact with, regardless of whether they went out or wanted to take the risk, at risk.
Anyone that I come into contact with outside of my home is likely to have the same risk tolerance that I have as evidenced by the fact that they are out and about like me.
You can have everything delivered to your door step these days.
People that are high risk for COVID should stay home and shelter. There is no reason for this group to leave the house. Similarly, if they are sheltered then why should they care if others are out and about. Those people should pose no threat to them.
Where I live there is plenty of hospital capacity, PPE supplies, and the day cares are open for business and are advertising their available capacity. There is no reason that all demographics should shelter in place the same.
People you come into contact with in your home, you put at risk. You may not have anyone in your home, but others have at risk people living in their homes.OldCamp said:People who dont want to catch COVID should stay home.Quote:
While CV puts you and everyone you come into contact with, regardless of whether they went out or wanted to take the risk, at risk.
Anyone that I come into contact with outside of my home is likely to have the same risk tolerance that I have.
On top of that, for all the risk takers going out and taking risks, and being more likely to be infected and spreading the virus, those that do not want to take the risk now have to deal with your increased risk when they go to the store for essentials.
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That is not the case for a large portion of the population. Many people live in areas that are too far out to have the option of delivery. Also many places that do have the option for delivery have insane wait times like over a week. Also there are those that are barely getting by on $ and cannot afford the markup of delivery.Quote:
You can have everything delivered to your door step these days.
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We make decisions as a family unit. That is how families work.Quote:
People you come into contact with in your home, you put at risk. You may not have anyone in your home, but others have at risk people living in their homes.
I think you might be out of touch with how easy and affordable it is get things delivered to you and if you live in a region of America that is so isolated that it is that hard to get deliveries then COVID probably isnt a real threat anyway.Quote:
That is not the case for a large portion of the population. Many people live in areas that are too far out to have the option of delivery. Also many places that do have the option for delivery have insane wait times like over a week. Also there are those that are barely getting by on $ and cannot afford the markup of delivery.
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You're stilling showing that you're in your bubble.Texaggie7nine said:People you come into contact with in your home, you put at risk. You may not have anyone in your home, but others have at risk people living in their homes.OldCamp said:People who dont want to catch COVID should stay home.Quote:
While CV puts you and everyone you come into contact with, regardless of whether they went out or wanted to take the risk, at risk.
Anyone that I come into contact with outside of my home is likely to have the same risk tolerance that I have.
On top of that, for all the risk takers going out and taking risks, and being more likely to be infected and spreading the virus, those that do not want to take the risk now have to deal with your increased risk when they go to the store for essentials.
No one is saying it's safe or logical. However, you think because you can work from home forever with no issues, means everyone should, or wait for this fantasy money that the government is going to throw at them.
Ideal, not realistic though.
I don't think working from home is a realistic option for most of the business world. I'm not cheering for shut downs. I think, at least in Texas, we should start working towards opening many things up by next month, but that can all change and people will be forced to make some tough decisions for themselves.
I may be working from home, but the industry we serve certainly won't survive months and months of shutdown and if these shutdowns last another 5-6 months or more, I have no illusions of keeping this job.
I may be working from home, but the industry we serve certainly won't survive months and months of shutdown and if these shutdowns last another 5-6 months or more, I have no illusions of keeping this job.
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Send me your email, I'd be happy to show you the cover letter of my tax return. I just realized you can't even afford an actual subscription so I can't PM you it.TxAG#2011 said:
You've spent all morning crawling over this thread attacking anyone who disagrees with you but sure, you don't qualify. Sure.
If your job won't make it another few months, do you think many other's will?Texaggie7nine said:
I don't think working from home is a realistic option for most of the business world. I'm not cheering for shut downs. I think, at least in Texas, we should start working towards opening many things up by next month, but that can all change and people will be forced to make some tough decisions for themselves.
I may be working from home, but the industry we serve certainly won't survive months and months of shutdown and if these shutdowns last another 5-6 months or more, I have no illusions of keeping this job.
It looks like you're finally getting it.
No, I don't.Baba Booey said:
If your job won't make it another few months, do you think many other's will?
That's why there would have to be a significant change of direction in cases and deaths either now or after we started to open back up for me to support that long of a shut down.
7nine
So going back to your original post where you attempted to insult me as a doom and gloomer but opposite... now you agree...Texaggie7nine said:No, I don't.Baba Booey said:
If your job won't make it another few months, do you think many other's will?
That's why there would have to be a significant change of direction in cases and deaths either now or after we started to open back up for me to support that long of a shut down.
Good for you!
Heaven forbid someone stay home isn't really an option for many families. Home schooling as a normal path again works if one parent can stay home full time. That simply isn't the reality for most people. Its why home schooling is largely a middle to upper middle class choice.Texaggie7nine said:
I probably am a bit biased as I know many home schooling parents, some who have over 5 kids in their home. Yes they have a full time stay at home, so that is going to make a big difference obviously.
Things seem out of the realm of possibility when we look at them from our coddled lifestyles, but there are always options and ways to get by. God forbid one parent stay at home permanently and the other work.
Kids right now are dealing with a complete upheaval in their lives, as are their parents. It seems insane to imagine doing it long term. But people always seem to be able to adapt and overcome. Routines can be established, and norms can be set.
No one wants this to be the case, but life sometimes forces us to deal with things like this.
Someone mentioned trying to get roads built or medical procedures done from home...or anything made, grown or physically produced. Most of the these processes utilize a large ratio of lower wage roles to fulfill them.
Deal with it is fine, but we need to make the best choices in order to make dealing with it a realistic.
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families? Does the dad work 80 hours a week for 2 years? Possibly, if possible but probably not realistic.
Who provides these lower income (and often less educated) workforce the strategies and ability to educate their kids daily?
Say the answer to the above is the school districts step up...how do they pay for it. A huge portion of their budgets come from not only property tax but often local sales tax. Spending will be way down because a huge percentage of the workforce will be home teaching their kids.
Pulling oneself up by their bootstraps is a tactical response of the individual that assumes they have bootstraps in the first place. Educating hundreds of thousands of kids effectively is a societal problem statement that requires everyone doing their part and that part is generating the revenues that generate the tax dollars to support the systems we need in the first place.
I don't want anyone else to die from this horrific pestilence, but at the same time we have to understand that we have to go on and our current system can't just be shut down for years without significant consequence. Schools in lower income areas are gong shows during the best of times...parents and schools are up against an almost unwinnable fight. Throw in the inability of parents that want to/need to work to provide a better work (create the bootstraps on which to pull) and you create a societal problem that will be a drag to all of us.
I agree that things need to be getting back to somewhat open sooner rather than later, going off what we see right now, but that could all change.Baba Booey said:So going back to your original post where you attempted to insult me as a doom and gloomer but opposite... now you agree...Texaggie7nine said:No, I don't.Baba Booey said:
If your job won't make it another few months, do you think many other's will?
That's why there would have to be a significant change of direction in cases and deaths either now or after we started to open back up for me to support that long of a shut down.
Good for you!
The biggest disagreement we have is that I don't see absolute doom and gloom if we do stay shut down for 2 or 3 or even 4 more months. Yes the unemployment rate will be astronomical. Yes countless amount of businesses will be no more. However, we have the infrastructure, technology and wealth in this nation to bounce back many times faster than any past economic disaster that happened over 20 years ago.
We may have a completely different looking landscape, but our economy will be back and strong.
That and the fact that if parents have to cope with their kids being at home for 2 years, its not the end of the world.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. There are a few posters on here who think the $1200 band-aid is going to solve all of these people's problems magically.Knucklesammich said:Heaven forbid someone stay home isn't really an option for many families. Home schooling as a normal path again works if one parent can stay home full time. That simply isn't the reality for most people. Its why home schooling is largely a middle to upper middle class choice.Texaggie7nine said:
I probably am a bit biased as I know many home schooling parents, some who have over 5 kids in their home. Yes they have a full time stay at home, so that is going to make a big difference obviously.
Things seem out of the realm of possibility when we look at them from our coddled lifestyles, but there are always options and ways to get by. God forbid one parent stay at home permanently and the other work.
Kids right now are dealing with a complete upheaval in their lives, as are their parents. It seems insane to imagine doing it long term. But people always seem to be able to adapt and overcome. Routines can be established, and norms can be set.
No one wants this to be the case, but life sometimes forces us to deal with things like this.
Someone mentioned trying to get roads built or medical procedures done from home...or anything made, grown or physically produced. Most of the these processes utilize a large ratio of lower wage roles to fulfill them.
Deal with it is fine, but we need to make the best choices in order to make dealing with it a realistic.
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families? Does the dad work 80 hours a week for 2 years? Possibly, if possible but probably not realistic.
Who provides these lower income (and often less educated) workforce the strategies and ability to educate their kids daily?
Say the answer to the above is the school districts step up...how do they pay for it. A huge portion of their budgets come from not only property tax but often local sales tax. Spending will be way down because a huge percentage of the workforce will be home teaching their kids.
Pulling oneself up by their bootstraps is a tactical response of the individual that assumes they have bootstraps in the first place. Educating hundreds of thousands of kids effectively is a societal problem statement that requires everyone doing their part and that part is generating the revenues that generate the tax dollars to support the systems we need in the first place.
I don't want anyone else to die from this horrific pestilence, but at the same time we have to understand that we have to go on and our current system can't just be shut down for years without significant consequence. Schools in lower income areas are gong shows during the best of times...parents and schools are up against an almost unwinnable fight. Throw in the inability of parents that want to/need to work to provide a better work (create the bootstraps on which to pull) and you create a societal problem that will be a drag to all of us.
You paint a picture of millions and millions of 2 parent households living at absolute basic minimum lifestyle to be able to survive. That would mean that they are living in small single room apartments, no big screen TVs, no multiple car households, no multiple cellphone households, ect. Cut backs are always an option.Quote:
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families?
I'm not saying everyone needs to do this. I'm saying if it comes down to it, and millions of lives do end up being reliant on us staying shut down, we can find a way to get it done, and these kids may miss a year or 2 of quality schooling. It doesn't mean they can no longer be a doctor or lawyer, or brick layer, or whatever. Their parents' financial state will be more of a factor on what their options are than that 1.5 years of crappy schooling.
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That's how many 2 parent lower class/working class families liven now. They aren't driving new cars or buying the latest and greatest phone every 9 months. They are living pay check to paycheck with no savings. That's the normal in good times.Texaggie7nine said:You paint a picture of millions and millions of 2 parent households living at absolute basic minimum lifestyle to be able to survive. That would mean that they are living in small single room apartments, no big screen TVs, no multiple car households, no multiple cellphone households, ect. Cut backs are always an option.Quote:
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families?
I'm not saying everyone needs to do this. I'm saying if it comes down to it, and millions of lives do end up being reliant on us staying shut down, we can find a way to get it done, and these kids may miss a year or 2 of quality schooling. It doesn't mean they can no longer be a doctor or lawyer, or brick layer, or whatever. Their parents' financial state will be more of a factor on what their options are than that 1.5 years of crappy schooling.
The 16 million largely service economy folks that have been taken out of their jobs aren't just doobie smoking hippies, they're the working folks your missing in the day to day. Its the dishwasher, the bartender working a second job as a night stocker at HEB (he got to keep one of his jobs). They're already living this way. Maybe it was personal choice and they lack discipline or maybe its just bad luck.
Either way society can only advance at the pace of its lowest members.
There is no cutting back that solves for this...
Ok so lets say they go a year without a new phone, they still need to have a phone to communicate with the outside world. Try applying for a job without a phone number.
You don't have kids I get it, and this sounds condescending but you have no clue what the cost of raising kids is. To do it even remotely "correctly" it is hundreds of thousands of dollars per kid over the 18 years they're in your house.
It's equally condescending to say, just don't have cell phones or buy anything for 2 years and home school your kids regardless of circumstance and show me data or you're wrong.
Do it working 60 hours+ a week at $12-15/hourx2 now cut that to x1. Cut all the cellphones and TV's you want...you'll save what 1k a year?
There are literally millions and millions living this way on the day to day when the economy is chugging.
Want to know what really made social distancing stick? shutting down the schools...want to know what will keep the economy from exiting quarantine mode, keeping kids at home.
If that doesn't make sense or get through to you how complex of a situation this is then I don't know what else to say.
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Great post!Knucklesammich said:That's how many 2 parent lower class/working class families liven now. They aren't driving new cars or buying the latest and greatest phone every 9 months. They are living pay check to paycheck with no savings. That's the normal in good times.Texaggie7nine said:You paint a picture of millions and millions of 2 parent households living at absolute basic minimum lifestyle to be able to survive. That would mean that they are living in small single room apartments, no big screen TVs, no multiple car households, no multiple cellphone households, ect. Cut backs are always an option.Quote:
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families?
I'm not saying everyone needs to do this. I'm saying if it comes down to it, and millions of lives do end up being reliant on us staying shut down, we can find a way to get it done, and these kids may miss a year or 2 of quality schooling. It doesn't mean they can no longer be a doctor or lawyer, or brick layer, or whatever. Their parents' financial state will be more of a factor on what their options are than that 1.5 years of crappy schooling.
The 16 million largely service economy folks that have been taken out of their jobs aren't just doobie smoking hippies, they're the working folks your missing in the day to day. Its the dishwasher, the bartender working a second job as a night stocker at HEB (he got to keep one of his jobs). They're already living this way. Maybe it was personal choice and they lack discipline or maybe its just bad luck.
Either way society can only advance at the pace of its lowest members.
There is no cutting back that solves for this...
Ok so lets say they go a year without a new phone, they still need to have a phone to communicate with the outside world. Try applying for a job without a phone number.
You don't have kids I get it, and this sounds condescending but you have no clue what the cost of raising kids is. To do it even remotely "correctly" it is hundreds of thousands of dollars per kid over the 18 years they're in your house.
It's equally condescending to say, just don't have cell phones or buy anything for 2 years and home school your kids regardless of circumstance and show me data or you're wrong.
Do it working 60 hours+ a week at $12-15/hourx2 now cut that to x1. Cut all the cellphones and TV's you want...you'll save what 1k a year?
There are literally millions and millions living this way on the day to day when the economy is chugging.
Want to know what really made social distancing stick? shutting down the schools...want to know what will keep the economy from exiting quarantine mode, keeping kids at home.
If that doesn't make sense or get through to you how complex of a situation this is then I don't know what else to say.
He works in a unicorn factory and drives a car that runs on rainbows. :/ At this point we're feeding a troll. I'm not willing to go "whatevs" on my economic future, my kids education (including one who requires occupational and speech therapies that I can't give him) and the kind of society I want to live in.
I'm not saying open it up and damn the consequences. But so far the numbers for the disease and mortality and hospitalizations have come in under the models in every case, in the US. I think we can start opening up slowly and smartly and roll with the punches.
I'm not saying open it up and damn the consequences. But so far the numbers for the disease and mortality and hospitalizations have come in under the models in every case, in the US. I think we can start opening up slowly and smartly and roll with the punches.
And yet here you are as a product of public educationTexaggie7nine said:I'm all for that. As a libertarian, I'm against public schools period.tysker said:And what about all of the kids in crappy schools that were already getting sub par educations? Hey what's another 1.5 years, right? I guess you dismiss them just as lightly.Texaggie7nine said:
If your kids get 1.5 years of sub par education, I think they will live.
I get that it's not a desirable scenario, and an unlikely one in my opinion, but if it happens, it happens.
If kids start getting 1.5 of sub par education, a lot more parents will start looking at, or creating, other options. And asking for their money back. There's already a school-choice/voucher system movement in Texas whereby people get a portion of your ISD taxes refunded if you're kids dont attend public school...
I'm with you on the education front. My wife thank goodness was an educator and is in education so gets that there is a methodology to teaching kids and how to do it...or at least fake it until you make it.
My mother in law is a second grade teacher and my mom taught for 40+ years so we have folks to talk to.
If I was a single parent trying to do this remotely correctly I can say that I would get an E for effort and a C- for outcome, I have no clue on how to educate beyond teach one lesson, I don't know the why in the order or the methodologies to do it in a measured and progressive manner.
My youngest son also has some additional requirements around speech and other areas. Again my better half has a background in this and knows how to keep things progressing.
Hats off to all the parents out there getting it done. If you're balancing a job and doing it kudos for maintaining the balance to do both. If you've lost your job and still doing it, kudos for being able to focus on the kids during what has to be an absolutely no joke scary time.
We had to socially distance to blunt this thing, I believe that completely, but I also think it can only go on for so long before we succumb to a worse cure than the disease for a whole host of reasons. We just have to re-start in a measured way and give everyone around us as much grace and empathy as we can.
My mother in law is a second grade teacher and my mom taught for 40+ years so we have folks to talk to.
If I was a single parent trying to do this remotely correctly I can say that I would get an E for effort and a C- for outcome, I have no clue on how to educate beyond teach one lesson, I don't know the why in the order or the methodologies to do it in a measured and progressive manner.
My youngest son also has some additional requirements around speech and other areas. Again my better half has a background in this and knows how to keep things progressing.
Hats off to all the parents out there getting it done. If you're balancing a job and doing it kudos for maintaining the balance to do both. If you've lost your job and still doing it, kudos for being able to focus on the kids during what has to be an absolutely no joke scary time.
We had to socially distance to blunt this thing, I believe that completely, but I also think it can only go on for so long before we succumb to a worse cure than the disease for a whole host of reasons. We just have to re-start in a measured way and give everyone around us as much grace and empathy as we can.
Ok, show me all the small apartments that these millions and millions of 2 parent working families live in. You just saying it doesn't make it so. I can throw out statements as well with no actual data to back it up:
I lived in apartments for most of my adult life. Most all the 2 parents families stayed there no more than a year. Usually they were moving to a house or bigger apartment. Most of the ones that stayed there for years drove Mercedes and Escalades or other really nice cars.
I lived in apartments for most of my adult life. Most all the 2 parents families stayed there no more than a year. Usually they were moving to a house or bigger apartment. Most of the ones that stayed there for years drove Mercedes and Escalades or other really nice cars.
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are you typing this from your nuclear bomb shelter?Texaggie7nine said:You paint a picture of millions and millions of 2 parent households living at absolute basic minimum lifestyle to be able to survive. That would mean that they are living in small single room apartments, no big screen TVs, no multiple car households, no multiple cellphone households, ect. Cut backs are always an option.Quote:
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families?
I'm not saying everyone needs to do this. I'm saying if it comes down to it, and millions of lives do end up being reliant on us staying shut down, we can find a way to get it done, and these kids may miss a year or 2 of quality schooling. It doesn't mean they can no longer be a doctor or lawyer, or brick layer, or whatever. Their parents' financial state will be more of a factor on what their options are than that 1.5 years of crappy schooling.
Texaggie7nine said:
Ok, show me all the small apartments that these millions and millions of 2 parent working families live in. You just saying it doesn't make it so. I can throw out statements as well with no actual data to back it up:
I lived in apartments for most of my adult life. Most all the 2 parents families stayed there no more than a year. Usually they were moving to a house or bigger apartment. Most of the ones that stayed there for years drove Mercedes and escalates and really nice cars.
You've spent all day throwing out statements with no data to back them up.
No, if I had the opinion of some of these "we are going into the biggest recession ever, and our economy is going to be ruined", then I probably would be though.AggieFanatic09 said:are you typing this from your nuclear bomb shelter?Texaggie7nine said:You paint a picture of millions and millions of 2 parent households living at absolute basic minimum lifestyle to be able to survive. That would mean that they are living in small single room apartments, no big screen TVs, no multiple car households, no multiple cellphone households, ect. Cut backs are always an option.Quote:
Who pays the rent while we do the god forbidden homeschooling for dual income families?
I'm not saying everyone needs to do this. I'm saying if it comes down to it, and millions of lives do end up being reliant on us staying shut down, we can find a way to get it done, and these kids may miss a year or 2 of quality schooling. It doesn't mean they can no longer be a doctor or lawyer, or brick layer, or whatever. Their parents' financial state will be more of a factor on what their options are than that 1.5 years of crappy schooling.
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Yes and thank you. Grace and empathy will go a long way.
start here:Texaggie7nine said:
Ok, show me all the small apartments that these millions and millions of 2 parent working families live in. You just saying it doesn't make it so. I can throw out statements as well with no actual data to back it up:
I lived in apartments for most of my adult life. Most all the 2 parents families stayed there no more than a year. Usually they were moving to a house or bigger apartment. Most of the ones that stayed there for years drove Mercedes and Escalades or other really nice cars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_City_Housing_Authority_properties
and that's just NYC housing authority.
Its amazing how the more you post on this thread, the less I agree with you. I can't imagine having lived a life as sheltered as you must have. You seem to have little grasp on the world outside of upper middle class white people.
A lot of cognitive dissonance. It's the point when the useful lies stop working. There's a fraction of the populace that immediately braces for the worst and isn't surprised as the restrictions roll out. There's a fraction that accepts things at face value, knows the reality, but refuses to accept it. There's a group that can't seem to grasp why there are any restrictions at all. And, there's every nuance of in-between.Crocs said:
Baffling to me that this surprises any of you.
It's the middle group, however, that seems to be surprised the most. They're smart enough and logical enough to see the writing on the wall, yet their emotions take over, the wishing gets a foothold, and they're surprised when the next announcement happens. It's actual, legitimate surprise, but nonetheless, it involves cognitive dissonance.
I'm going to guess these apartments you lived in weren't in zip codes where the median income was below $30k.
You know all the parts of town you don't go to after dark, if at all? Lots of people live there.
You know all the parts of town you don't go to after dark, if at all? Lots of people live there.
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Are all libertarians against public schools? I'm guessing they are also against the government paying for poor kids to attend private schools. How do kids get an education if there aren't public schools and they can't afford private schools?
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