Hays County spike

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Talking to a county official and they said they are seeing a large increase in the 20 to 30 year olds. Said they are seeing positives from a large group from the protests in Austin. 3 days now of 80 plus a day. Mostly San Marcos. I would imagine Texas State students. Hospitalization is fine. Only 5 deaths in the county. Multiple restauraunts have closed for cleaning but reopening.

Anybody hear anything else?
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http://www.haysinformed.org/hays-county-covid-19-update-june-12.aspx
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We wanted to take our daughter to see Texas State this weekend. Any recommendations of places that are open around campus or are we better off finding something to eat in New Braunfels or Austin?
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Herberts Taco Hut!
The Fall Guy
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Yes Heberts is legit!

Everything is open. They close. Deep clean and reopen. New Braunfels and Austin having the same issues.
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Go to the square downtown. Lots of eateries to choose. Good college town.
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Tap room on the square for a good burger and a beer.
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Tap Room is closed due to corona
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I'd recommend Happy Cow. My favorite burger outside of Koppe Bridge. It's a little outside of town but well worth it. Get the patty melt!
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Hebert's was as good as advertised! Did notice completely full stands at the little league and full river too. Looks pretty wide open in Hays County
The Fall Guy
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Yep it's still full. As long as they clean, close and reopen I am fine.
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Gotta learn to live with these spikes. Only 5 hospitalizations tells the tale.
The Fall Guy
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14 hospitalizations and 5 deaths. Sill fine.
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142 new cases today. 16 hospitalized..

We got ourselves a spreader from the youngins.
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Grins and Herbert's are the only places to eat in San Marcos.
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Grins has the Rona.

Centerfield bar in Kyle closed. 2 positive.

Heb in Kyle several positive

Social media blowing up with the places positive today.
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It appears that they are trying to blame this spike on Memorial Day and not the protests.

Makes no sense though.

Memorial Day was 5/25.
The spike started in earnest on 6/11 with 82 new cases logged.
That is 17 days.

If the median incubation period is 5 days, and a person then takes 2 days to get in for a test, and it takes a day to get test results, considering that Memorial Day Weekend started on 5/23, that would mean any Memorial Day spike should have been 7 to 10 days after Memorial Day which would have been 6/1 to 6/4.

There was a small spike on 6/1 to 6/4 with 18, 18, and 14 new cases logged.

If you back up 7 to 10 days prior to when this big spike started, you end up at 6/1 to 6/3. I believe these were big protest dates.

People of integrity expect to be believed, when they're not, they let time prove them right.
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I am a mayor within Hays County and have been tracking this closely since March.

I am 100% convinced that this spike is due to the protests, both because of the timing, and because of the large percentage of 20 to 29 year olds in the numbers.
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Dad o lot,

I spoke to one of the judges and that is what they said. It wasn't Becerra who said that. He is blaming it on Memorial day. He doesn't want to be found he was part of the protests. Beccera let a protest in San Marcos. Erin Zweiner also says it is memorial day but there are supposed pictures of her in Austin with the protestors.
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The CDC issued planning guidance a month or so back that outlined typical timelines for disease progression. On average, it'll take 6 days between exposure and symptom onset (or 3-14 days, mean 6). It'll take another 5-7 days on average for symptoms to progress where folks have a need to go to the hospital. That's on a primary transmission level, if someone goes home and passes it to a family member, basically add a week.

Galveston County's chart is textbook example pointing back to May 25ish, but everything with this thing is local and On different timelines. It's a little bit disconcerting to hear the younger cohort is more prevalent now, as that parallels what we're hearing/seeing elsewhere in my area and state-wide since bars started refilling.

The protests will probably filter into the case reports in due course. Given the lag in data reporting it will probably be another week or two, depending on locality.

Wish y'all the best in Hays. Here in Houston its getting a little frothy.
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Becerra posted pictures of himself at a protest on June 2nd.

I like Becerra, but denying the impact of the protests on this spike in cases is silly.
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I think there is also an aspect of people thinking, "well, if protests are now allowed, this thing must be over", and people stopped being as careful.

So cases may not be directly related to the protests, but the protests gave people permission, in their own minds, to stop being as cautious.
People of integrity expect to be believed, when they're not, they let time prove them right.
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16 total hospitalized or 16 new?
The Fall Guy
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Only 16 currently in hospitals in Hays County.
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88planoAg said:

Dad-O-Lot said:

I think there is also an aspect of people thinking, "well, if protests are now allowed, this thing must be over", and people stopped being as careful.

So cases may not be directly related to the protests, but the protests gave people permission, in their own minds, to stop being as cautious.
oh yes. Especially with the doctors saying racism is more important than covid. Not like a lot of people needed more evidence, but this fed directly into the 'well that means it isn't a problem' crowd.


What doctors said that? None that I know.
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murphyag said:

88planoAg said:

Dad-O-Lot said:

I think there is also an aspect of people thinking, "well, if protests are now allowed, this thing must be over", and people stopped being as careful.

So cases may not be directly related to the protests, but the protests gave people permission, in their own minds, to stop being as cautious.
oh yes. Especially with the doctors saying racism is more important than covid. Not like a lot of people needed more evidence, but this fed directly into the 'well that means it isn't a problem' crowd.


What doctors said that? None that I know.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/health-care-open-letter-protests-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
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88planoAg said:

murphyag said:

88planoAg said:

Dad-O-Lot said:

I think there is also an aspect of people thinking, "well, if protests are now allowed, this thing must be over", and people stopped being as careful.

So cases may not be directly related to the protests, but the protests gave people permission, in their own minds, to stop being as cautious.
oh yes. Especially with the doctors saying racism is more important than covid. Not like a lot of people needed more evidence, but this fed directly into the 'well that means it isn't a problem' crowd.


What doctors said that? None that I know.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/health-care-open-letter-protests-coronavirus-trnd/index.html



Like I said....NONE that I know. People need to spend more time talking to their local doctors and local health departments to get information relevant to their area they live in. Stop watching so much cable news.

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murphyag said:

88planoAg said:

murphyag said:

88planoAg said:

Dad-O-Lot said:

I think there is also an aspect of people thinking, "well, if protests are now allowed, this thing must be over", and people stopped being as careful.

So cases may not be directly related to the protests, but the protests gave people permission, in their own minds, to stop being as cautious.
oh yes. Especially with the doctors saying racism is more important than covid. Not like a lot of people needed more evidence, but this fed directly into the 'well that means it isn't a problem' crowd.


What doctors said that? None that I know.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/health-care-open-letter-protests-coronavirus-trnd/index.html



Like I said....NONE that I know. People need to spend more time talking to their local doctors and local health departments to get information relevant to their area they live in. Stop watching so much cable news.




I'm not advocating for this.

But this news was everywhere as protests began.

All over national media.

So it is a factor in both the protestors and those who aren't protesting but who are also saying the covid crisis is over.

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88planoAg said:

murphyag said:

88planoAg said:

murphyag said:

88planoAg said:

Dad-O-Lot said:

I think there is also an aspect of people thinking, "well, if protests are now allowed, this thing must be over", and people stopped being as careful.

So cases may not be directly related to the protests, but the protests gave people permission, in their own minds, to stop being as cautious.
oh yes. Especially with the doctors saying racism is more important than covid. Not like a lot of people needed more evidence, but this fed directly into the 'well that means it isn't a problem' crowd.


What doctors said that? None that I know.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/health-care-open-letter-protests-coronavirus-trnd/index.html



Like I said....NONE that I know. People need to spend more time talking to their local doctors and local health departments to get information relevant to their area they live in. Stop watching so much cable news.




I'm not advocating for this.

But this news was everywhere as protests began.

All over national media.

So it is a factor in both the protestors and those who aren't protesting but who are also saying the covid crisis is over.




Well, to be honest, I didn't watch much of the protests on television because I've been slammed at work. My kids told me most protestors looked to be on the younger side (30 or under) and the majority they saw on tv were wearing masks. No social distancing, of course. But, I assumed them being outdoors in hot sunshine, wearing masks, and their younger age would help somewhat with not causing a huge spike in cases.

People who are against wearing masks and are trying to pretend everything is 100% back to normal were already acting that way before the protests as far as I can tell. Now they just use the protests as another excuse to validate their behavior.
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A majority were not wearing masks.
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wreckncrew said:

A majority were not wearing masks.
What makes you think that? One of the things we noticed from the broadcasts we watched was the surprising (to us) number of masks we saw. In case I was remembering incorrectly, I just Google searched Dallas protests images and, again, almost every person was wearing a mask.
The Fall Guy
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Masks don't protect you. The yelling, screaming, sweat etc. Packed streets. A mask is not going to do crap. It's a sponge for your face.
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This is very antidotal, but I know one of the positive Hays county cases. They were at a protest in Austin. Wore a mask and gloves, was positive 4 day's later.

That said, I don't believe Hays county's spike is 100% the sole result of the protests, there were not any more protests here than anywhere else. While the protests are a piece of it. I'd bet most of it is the DGAF attitude of half the town of San Marcos, in the 20-29 age range. The river had been packed, mask usage has been low, bars open and as full as they are allowed to be, how much social distancing can really be done at a bar once people are drunk? As a result and majority of the new case are in the 20-29 age range. On the bright side, that's why hospitalizations and deaths will remain low, if it stays in the aged range.
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TexjbA&M said:

This is very antidotal, but I know one of the positive Hays county cases. They were at a protest in Austin. Wore a mask and gloves, was positive 4 day's later.

That said, I don't believe Hays county's spike is 100% the sole result of the protests, there were not any more protests here than anywhere else. While the protests are a piece of it. I'd bet most of it is the DGAF attitude of half the town of San Marcos, in the 20-29 age range. The river had been packed, mask usage has been low, bars open and as full as they are allowed to be, how much social distancing can really be done at a bar once people are drunk? As a result and majority of the new case are in the 20-29 age range. On the bright side, that's why hospitalizations and deaths will remain low, if it stays in the aged range.
But what I find interesting, is that prior to 6/11, Kyle had many more cases than San Marcos. Then suddenly on 6/11, San Marcos added 92 cases while Kyle added only 16 and San Marcos overtook Kyle.

What happened in San Marcos that did not happen, or did not happen to the same extent in Kyle?
People of integrity expect to be believed, when they're not, they let time prove them right.
 
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