I agree there. But it doesn't tell us anything about the current situation.

Too much stale or incomplete data.

And I did just notice that they are only showing 664 deaths total and the actuals are over 2000. You're right it's got some major flaws.

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I understand the thought process, but this is really hard to argue as good news. We're orders of magnitude away from herd immunity, and the right way to get there is a vaccine.

These are possible new vectors that may have passed it on to family, friends or others. Bear in mind too, cases have a % correlation to hospitalizations and even the young have some that will die.

Admittedly speculating here, but the same trend probably doesn't help any planning for schools going back or sports in the fall.

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I guess. I would be more inclined to agree with you if I had more confidence in a timely vaccine.

I am more on the page that it is going to run its course thru the population more than we would like and staying open is crucial. So when I hear about a bunch of cases and it not being completely devastating I see it as a win.

And I understand some young die. My roommate from A&M died at 34 from pneumonia that developed from the flu. I don't say that in any way to bring up the stupid which is worse flu/covid argument. My point is the fact that Covid-19 occasionally kills a younger person does not by itself make it exceptional.

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That's where I'm at. If it seemed a reliable vaccine would be in the next 3-4 months, it would make sense to slow things down and just bit the bullet. But that's wishful thinking, IMHO. It's more likely 18 or more months(IF EVER) before we not only develop one, but get it approved and mass distributed.

If it's in 12-18 months, we'll be near herd immunity and a vaccine will only help minimally. The vaccine would be more for the future to take every couple of years for sustained immunity. We are already at 12-14% if you look at deaths versus estimated death rates of the CDC and/or all the IFRs of .6%. That's with the work place being shut down. 3-4% per month.

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Or maybe they are following common sense precautions?

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Maybe, but aren't the protesting all over the world? Right or wrong, like it or not, America operates differently and individual freedoms/liberties hold higher here than a lot of other places. In most instances, that will be for the better IMHO. During a pandemic, it might be for the worse. But I take America like I take a marriage, for better or worse

can you show your math?

how many covid deaths in america so far?

He can't

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I think cases by age and especially the fatalities by age tell an interesting story. Look like there have been more deaths over 80 than under 70 so far.

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Massachusetts released their data a few weeks ago and it showed things like they had more deaths over 84 than under 80!

https://communityimpact.com/austin/san-marcos-buda-kyle/coronavirus/2020/06/17/higher-number-of-hays-county-coronavirus-cases-points-to-these-3-reasons/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Community_Impact_San_Marcos_/_Buda_/_Kyle

6/17 - 145 new cases

74 between 20 and 29.
96 from San Marcos.

Larger spread in ages and locations this time.

77% positive

Hays County to announce mandatory masks today.

The Fall Guy said:

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Hays County to announce mandatory masks today.

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That has not yet been completely decided. Likely, but not yet a given.

edit - I guess I was wrong. Decision was made but mayors not notified ahead of time.

It would be a similar requirement as in Bexar County, The requirement would be that any business that serves the public would need to have and enforce mask requirements for their employees and customers.

A subtle difference, but basically not a "you must wear a mask" order, but a "you must make your customers and employees wear masks".

I'm not really comfortable with it, but it will likely be ordered anyway.

Something no one has addressed or tried to explain:

Since June 10th

Covid Cases in Kyle have increased 73%

Covid Cases in San Marcos have increased 530%

Prior to 6/10, there was a lot of discussion about "why are Kyle's numbers so high compared to San Marcos"

As of 6/10, Kyle had 230 cases and San Marcos had 134.

Now Kyle has 399 (224 active) and San Marcos has 844 (749 active)

Kind of Interesting for sure. The judge really pushed the race narrative that it was Hispanics. Now not so much. Covid doesn't judge by race.

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Something no one has addressed or tried to explain:

Since June 10th

Covid Cases in Kyle have increased 73%

Covid Cases in San Marcos have increased 530%

Prior to 6/10, there was a lot of discussion about "why are Kyle's numbers so high compared to San Marcos"

As of 6/10, Kyle had 230 cases and San Marcos had 134.

Now Kyle has 399 (224 active) and San Marcos has 844 (749 active)

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Have college students returned to town? Are there summer classes at Texas State? Or is it people floating the river?

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Dad-O-Lot said:

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Something no one has addressed or tried to explain:

Since June 10th

Covid Cases in Kyle have increased 73%

Covid Cases in San Marcos have increased 530%

Prior to 6/10, there was a lot of discussion about "why are Kyle's numbers so high compared to San Marcos"

As of 6/10, Kyle had 230 cases and San Marcos had 134.

Now Kyle has 399 (224 active) and San Marcos has 844 (749 active)

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Have college students returned to town? Are there summer classes at Texas State? Or is it people floating the river?

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Apparently Texas State is still doing remote courses only for Summer I, but plan to go to in-class for Summer II

TX St. Summer & Fall 2020 announcement

Orientations are also "virtual".

I still believe this spike is primarily due to the protests.

Both the protests themselves, and the following attitude of "if it's OK to gather in groups to protest, then this must not be that big a deal."

51 additional recoveries today in Hays County (if the numbers don't get updated/corrected)

103 new cases
73 in San Marcos
56 in age 20 - 29 age range.

also reduced the active hospitalizations by two - down to 12 now.

It looks like the spike may be slowing down.

New Cases over the last 6 days
6/14 54
6/15 211
6/16 155
6/17 145
6/18 210
6/19 103

Also 2 less hospitalizations. 12 now.

My alarm are the higher numbers of 70 and over.

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Also 2 less hospitalizations. 12 now.

My alarm are the higher numbers of 70 and over.

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the numbers of 70 and over didn't change from yesterday.

but between 6/16 and 6/18, there were 11 added in those age ranges. (based on the reports I've seen)

What does a mandatory mask mean? Any kind of mask? Must it meet certain specs? Must it be installed in a specific manner? Or just anything generally covering your face?

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What does a mandatory mask mean? Any kind of mask? Must it meet certain specs? Must it be installed in a specific manner? Or just anything generally covering your face?

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Per the order:

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...coverings may include homemade masks, scarfs, bandanas, or a handkerchief.

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must cover mouth and nose

54 cases today. Hmm wondering if we just had a small spike or going back up after the weekend

I'm hoping the spike is dying already, but since this was an early report, I would expect more to be reported either later today, or Monday will include additional numbers from today, and tomorrow, in addition to Monday's numbers.

It has been sort of a pattern that Monday's numbers are larger because they include some, if not all, of the numbers from the weekend.

report I saw said 57 new cases so far today.

Another 103 reported today
active cases - 1317

Yep just saw that

Just got the numbers for today - I assume they include additional weekend numbers. The age and location was not updated until today.

So, since Friday:

320 new cases
no new recoveries
215 from San Marcos
65 from Kyle
27 from Buda

171 between the ages of 20 and 29.
50 between ages of 30 and 39.

Concerning to me, age range 0-9 increase 79% (19 cases)

2 new hospitalizations - active hospitalizations is back up to 14. (well within capacity for the county)

Based on when new cases have been added, I estimate 40 to 50 recoveries to be identified in the next few days. ( this is sheer speculation on my part)

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Concerning to me, age range 0-9 increase 79% (19 cases)

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My guess would be kids of infected parents or caregivers getting tested.

Kids tend to tend positive for the virus, show lesser symptoms, and have diminished capacity to infect others.


Anecdotally, a friend in their early 40's in Houston was symptomatic and tested positive. Three kids? All positive. All with no symptoms. But all now quarantining as instructed.

I'm hoping we are starting to plateau.

130 more today.

8 recoveries

1 more hospitalization

% positive dropped to 27.9% Lowest since 6/18.