Ask your brother why now the CDC is saying vaccinated people do not need to wear them? It was clear they didn't from the beginning but the CDC was slow to acknowledge this but the science is overwhelming that masks did little without vaccination and do basically nothing with vaccination so there is no need for vaccinated people to wear them.The Fall Guy said:
I have not worn one for a month now since vaccinated. I am in San Antonio now and my brother and Aunt who are also vaccinated won't take them off. We went to Cosco yesterday and I didn't have it on. My brother freaked out.
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Actually you're not completely correct. Masks did help slow spread to some extent. It was not overwhelming or the cure all the alarmist said it was, but studies did show that while the virus could get through masks it did not spread as far so thus it would cut down on the infection rate. The truth on most of this virus was and is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes who seem to argue everything from a political point. The ironic thing is that in a public place especially outdoors masks offer basically nothing because even if a person was infected and you passed them and they were masked or not unless they literally coughed in your face you were not going to get COVID. So most COVID spread happened at gatherings at peoples houses and most would not be wearing masks because they felt secure in a private home. So masks did very little because basically no one used them correctly.
Irwin M. Fletcher said:
Masks did help slow spread to some extent. It was not overwhelming or the cure all the alarmist said it was, but studies did show that while the virus could get through masks it did not spread as far so thus it would cut down on the infection rate.
I'll be waiting for your sources to confirm, because none of this is true.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
Irwin M. Fletcher said:
Actually you're not completely correct. Masks did help slow spread to some extent. It was not overwhelming or the cure all the alarmist said it was, but studies did show that while the virus could get through masks it did not spread as far so thus it would cut down on the infection rate. The truth on most of this virus was and is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes who seem to argue everything from a political point. The ironic thing is that in a public place especially outdoors masks offer basically nothing because even if a person was infected and you passed them and they were masked or not unless they literally coughed in your face you were not going to get COVID. So most COVID spread happened at gatherings at peoples houses and most would not be wearing masks because they felt secure in a private home. So masks did very little because basically no one used them correctly.
Outside of the danger (at the beginning) of overwhelming hospitals, why focus on slowing the spread? The virus by March 2020 was endemic in the population. If your goal was to prevent people from getting the virus, your efforts were futile.
Once a virus is endemic in the population, it's not a question of if, but when you'll be exposed. Masks, social distancing, and govt lockdowns won't change that.
Don't want to wade through it but Reveille had a study he posted in his thread that's pinned at the top that showed it helped slow the spread. Look I'm not and never was a mask are absolutely necessary guy, mainly because virtually no one wore them correctly or terrible quality. So their benefit was minimal at best, but don't be the guy that holds on on they offered nothing what so ever and die on that hill. Be more pragmatic and say yeah they might have helped a little, so what? Is that going to kill you? They probably offered a tiny bit of help, it's ok to acknowledge this. It's also ok to let the mask nazis know they aren't the best at preventing spread and they are completely pointless once vaccinated.
NCNJ1217 said:Irwin M. Fletcher said:
Actually you're not completely correct. Masks did help slow spread to some extent. It was not overwhelming or the cure all the alarmist said it was, but studies did show that while the virus could get through masks it did not spread as far so thus it would cut down on the infection rate. The truth on most of this virus was and is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes who seem to argue everything from a political point. The ironic thing is that in a public place especially outdoors masks offer basically nothing because even if a person was infected and you passed them and they were masked or not unless they literally coughed in your face you were not going to get COVID. So most COVID spread happened at gatherings at peoples houses and most would not be wearing masks because they felt secure in a private home. So masks did very little because basically no one used them correctly.
Once a virus is endemic in the population, it's not a question of if, but when you'll be exposed. Masks, social distancing, and govt lockdowns won't change that.
I don't understand. I actually was hopeful that I wouldn't get Covid. 2 shots later, still am.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
You may be exposed without actually contracting the disease. I personally think I've been exposed but just didn't get infected. The point is, you can't stop the inevitability of being exposed, once the virus is in the population.
To borrow a quote from Fight Club: "On a long enough timeline, everyone'slife expectancy chance of not being exposed to Covid, drops to zero."
To borrow a quote from Fight Club: "On a long enough timeline, everyone's
NCNJ1217 said:
You may be exposed without actually contracting the disease. I personally think I've been exposed but just didn't get infected. The point is, you can't stop the inevitability of being exposed, once the virus is in the population.
To borrow a quote from Fight Club: "On a long enough timeline, everyone'slife expectancychance of not being exposed to Covid, drops to zero."
And I drank Leonardo da Vinci's pee last year too. Exposure is a relative term. Second shot made me slightly ill, so I likely had no meaningful exposure. And, on top of that, among the hundreds of people I know, those who didn't mask or socially distance were FAR more likely to get Covid. College group at church didn't give a darn - huge outbreak at retreat. Many more examples. Meaningful exposure wasn't inevitable. Most adults I know who practiced reasonable hygeine didn't get it. A few did, and they could almost always figure out where.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
What you said is exactly my point. In fact I made these exact points, masks had a minimal effect because of the reasons you stated but not because there was zero evidence they could work. It's like you want to ignore what I said or just refuse to listen. The spread of COVID happened mainly at social private gatherings not in the public arena.SoupNazi2001 said:Irwin M. Fletcher said:
Don't want to wade through it but Reveille had a study he posted in his thread that's pinned at the top that showed it helped slow the spread. Look I'm not and never was a mask are absolutely necessary guy, mainly because virtually no one wore them correctly or terrible quality. So their benefit was minimal at best, but don't be the guy that holds on on they offered nothing what so ever and die on that hill. Be more pragmatic and say yeah they might have helped a little, so what? Is that going to kill you? They probably offered a tiny bit of help, it's ok to acknowledge this. It's also ok to let the mask nazis know they aren't the best at preventing spread and they are completely pointless once vaccinated.
Actually the masks and social distancing pretty much did nothing because you have to account for people's behaviors. If you close everything down people will still gather in homes. If you make people wear masks all the time, the vast majority will wear them incorrectly and reuse dirty ones while constantly touching their face.
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No longer have to wear a mask to walgreens either now in DFW if you identify as vaccinated. Freedom is glorious.
HEB in Austin still requires masks.
Imsodopey said:
HEB in Austin still requires masks.
They have signs up but no one is enforcing them. I've been to H-E-B twice since last week and no one other than employees are wearing them. I didn't wear one when I was there as recently as Sunday. Anderson Mill and 620
HEB at Mueller and Hancock Shopping center: employees wearing them, so are shoppers
I went back to the Kroger on Custer on Sunday. Probably nearing 50/50 on mask wearing. Weird how 1 week made such a difference. Just need more people to stop wearing them when it's completely unnecessary AND the business "gives permission" to stop.Capitol Ag said:Frisco Kroger on Custer near McKinney. Custer and Eldorado. I did not see the standing sign. I will look for that next time.Ken Adams said:
I think you and I both live in the same general area. I've been to two Kroger stores in the last few days. Both still had the normal signs on the sliding doors as you enter that it's required. Then there was another standing sign by the carts that said masks required but there was a small red sign attached saying fully vaccinated no longer had to wear them. I even heard the overhead speakers say the same thing to "please a wear mask, but if you are fully vaccinated then it's no longer required but encouraged." Seems these places are keeping the announcements subtle as possible.
I am just ignoring any signage at this point honestly. Now that the CDC says we do not need them, Covid is over for most of us that are vaccinated. I honestly think the unvaxed can go maskless too. Especially the ones who have had Covid. Not sure why there are so many immunity deniers when it comes to those who have had Covid.
Yup. Went last night to the same Kroger with the whole family. At least 50% not masking. Scheels this weekend, 90+% not masked. Target Sunday 50/50. More are getting comfortable for sure.Ken Adams said:I went back to the Kroger on Custer on Sunday. Probably nearing 50/50 on mask wearing. Weird how 1 week made such a difference. Just need more people to stop wearing them when it's completely unnecessary AND the business "gives permission" to stop.Capitol Ag said:Frisco Kroger on Custer near McKinney. Custer and Eldorado. I did not see the standing sign. I will look for that next time.Ken Adams said:
I think you and I both live in the same general area. I've been to two Kroger stores in the last few days. Both still had the normal signs on the sliding doors as you enter that it's required. Then there was another standing sign by the carts that said masks required but there was a small red sign attached saying fully vaccinated no longer had to wear them. I even heard the overhead speakers say the same thing to "please a wear mask, but if you are fully vaccinated then it's no longer required but encouraged." Seems these places are keeping the announcements subtle as possible.
I am just ignoring any signage at this point honestly. Now that the CDC says we do not need them, Covid is over for most of us that are vaccinated. I honestly think the unvaxed can go maskless too. Especially the ones who have had Covid. Not sure why there are so many immunity deniers when it comes to those who have had Covid.
One day at a time.
Imsodopey said:
HEB in Austin still requires masks.
I didn't wear a mask at the Westlake HEB yesterday, but wasn't the only one. Central Market today was only person I saw not wearing a mask. No employee asked me at either spot.
Imsodopey said:
HEB in Austin still requires masks.
Which one? The one in Lakeway does not.
One day at a time.
Seriously. Who is still wearing a mask in Texas. Starting to see like 10% science deniers left.
Winner winner maskless dinner!
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) June 2, 2021
Fauci emails reveal what he really thought about masks!
“Masks are for infected people...”
“Typical mask you buy... is really not effective at keeping out the virus.”
“ I do not recommend you wear a mask” pic.twitter.com/q3buopts2k
Lol
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
I mean, we know this....This isn't new.Old Buffalo said:Winner winner maskless dinner!
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) June 2, 2021
Fauci emails reveal what he really thought about masks!
“Masks are for infected people...”
“Typical mask you buy... is really not effective at keeping out the virus.”
“ I do not recommend you wear a mask” pic.twitter.com/q3buopts2k
Lol
I wear the mask if the business says its required. I don't if there is no sign.
HEB needs to quit being little goobers about it. Either they want us to wear a mask or they don't. Kroger at least had a sign up saying "if vaxxed, aren't required." HEB seems to be living in the gray area where they aren't really saying its required, but aren't saying it isn't." Total B.S.
People just need to get comfortable again (and have people believe that if they aren't wearing a mask, they aren't necessarily a Republican).
Mueller and Hancock Shopping Center have signs indicating that masks are required. All employees wear them.
I went to Costco about two weeks ago. Most people had masks. Maybe 10 or so didn't.
I went yesterday and more people weren't wearing masks than were. I even saw an employee or two not wearing one, so I dont think they are requiring it for them anymore.
I think this will build momentum the more people see others not wearing masks.
And this was in Travis county.
So do your duty and dont wear a mask!
I went yesterday and more people weren't wearing masks than were. I even saw an employee or two not wearing one, so I dont think they are requiring it for them anymore.
I think this will build momentum the more people see others not wearing masks.
And this was in Travis county.
So do your duty and dont wear a mask!
JP_Losman said:
Whole Foods no longer requiring
Now that Whole Foods is done and has their food service lines back, doesn't that mean everyone is back???
Went to the pharmacy today and no one wearing masks. Infill Houston no less. Love it.
Heb keeps playing that old and tired recording about washing your hands (duh!) keeping 6 feet apart and so on - at least at the lavernia store.
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
I am sure my store still has all that, but if you just walk past and don't mind it, 50%+ aren't following it and no one looks at you.West Point Aggie said:
Heb keeps playing that old and tired recording about washing your hands (duh!) keeping 6 feet apart and so on - at least at the lavernia store.
They will change the way of Whole Foods soon... (amazing that is the case lol..)
AndesAg92 said:I am sure my store still has all that, but if you just walk past and don't mind it, 50%+ aren't following it and no one looks at you.West Point Aggie said:
Heb keeps playing that old and tired recording about washing your hands (duh!) keeping 6 feet apart and so on - at least at the lavernia store.
They will change the way of Whole Foods soon... (amazing that is the case lol..)
I will admit to feeling odd about not wearing a mask the first time; it felt like I would get scolded at any moment. That passed.
I'd say a month ago it was 90/10 mask/no mask
Yesterday I'd estimate it at 40/60 mask/no mask
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Since this seems the most appropriate thread, so what's up with chick fil a? It is exactly as it was back in May of 2020. I have no desire to ever eat at a chick fil a (just take out) but at least the ones I visit in live oak and converse are draconian in their approach.
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Never wear masks into stores. If your forced to comply. Just walk out calmly and do not return.
If wearing a mask is optional, you should NOT wear one. Humans copy their actions off what other humans are doing.
In our office of 15. I was the first to never wear a mask, slowly but surly others stopped. And now 1-2 remain and they are increasingly taking theirs off here and there.
You need to be a leader in normalization of behavior.
If wearing a mask is optional, you should NOT wear one. Humans copy their actions off what other humans are doing.
In our office of 15. I was the first to never wear a mask, slowly but surly others stopped. And now 1-2 remain and they are increasingly taking theirs off here and there.
You need to be a leader in normalization of behavior.
I prefer to eat in my truck where I won't be judged for the copious amount of chick-fil-a sauce that is ingested with the nuggets or sandwich. And I can listen to the radio.SoupNazi2001 said:West Point Aggie said:
Since this seems the most appropriate thread, so what's up with chick fil a? It is exactly as it was back in May of 2020. I have no desire to ever eat at a chick fil a (just take out) but at least the ones I visit in live oak and converse are draconian in their approach.
Several of them have recently opened their dining rooms in the last month or so. I think more will follow. Fried food isn't really that good after you drive home.
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