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I feel bad for them. I would feel bad for any family in this situation. Some people seem positively giddy about this.

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Name one person on here that appears giddy! Besides, I'm claiming its a family matter

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So you stumbled across it?

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It's a national news story that is being very widely reported.

This thread reminds me, whatever happened to AgBeliever?

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Keeping family matters private is not the same as a cover up.

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Does this extend to all crimes? If my sister finds me burying a pile of body parts in my yard and doesn't turn me in, is that a private family matter? Does it matter if we're related to the former owners of those parts?

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They went through a police investigation. After that, you think they should have advertised it?

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Keeping family matters private is not the same as a cover up.

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Does this extend to all crimes? If my sister finds me burying a pile of body parts in my yard and doesn't turn me in, is that a private family matter? Does it matter if we're related to the former owners of those parts?

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They went through a police investigation. After that, you think they should have advertised it?

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Actually, they refused to cooperate with the police investigation and waited out the statute of limitations.

Charpie.

You seem to get a great deal of satisfaction that these people. WHO HAVE A TV SHOW AND CONDEMN THE WAY OTHER PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES have been outed as "hypocrites".

That was a "police investigation" to you???

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They went through a police investigation. After that, you think they should have advertised it?

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Four years later. When Oprah told the cops. I don't think they should have advertised it; I think they should have addressed it when it happened, before the statute of limitations ran, before they became famous, and while the molester was still living with a gaggle of previous and potential future victims.

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So you were viewing some national news media website or watching a national news source and brought the story here? I get that it is now a national story, was just curious how you actually became aware of it.

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Does this extend to all crimes? If my sister finds me burying a pile of body parts in my yard and doesn't turn me in, is that a private family matter? Does it matter if we're related to the former owners of those parts?

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Actually, they refused to cooperate with the police investigation and waited out the statute of limitations.

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My understanding is that they got the kid a lawyer. They probably followed the lawyer's legal advice.

AFTER the police investigation, do you believe they should have publicized it?

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Well, she has a point. However, she was volunteering to give her boyfriend access to her daughter, to whom he was not related. The Duggars were trying to deal with a situation involving several of their kids. I'm not saying they handled it correctly, but that it was a difficult situation. To me, deciding whether you should date the man who molested your daughter - not a hard decision.

Do you have a daughter? Serious inquiry.

To me, allowing ANYONE who had molested my daughter, regardless if it is a family member or not, to have further access (and unsupervised access at that) to her is not a hard decision. The decision is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NOT EVER. I do not see a difference in Mama June allowing her chi-mo boyfriend around his previous victim and the Duggars allowing their chi-mo son around his previous victim.

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Does it matter whatsoever???

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I have no idea. I was not there. I saw a 13 page police report. That would imply there was an investigation.

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what the **** does it matter?

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Why does it matter?

It is everywhere!

June was worse, IMO. It's pretty clear-cut that you don't date the guy who molested your daughter.

The Duggars may have made the wrong decisions, but they had more than one kid involved. I imagine they were trying to protect all of their kids. AGAIN, they may not have handled it well.

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Shannon, whose popular reality show was canceled last October in the wake of a report that she was dating a convicted child molester, told TMZ late Thursday night that she wanted to sue TLC for keeping 19 Kids and Counting on air.

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There is so much in this that makes me wish that every.single.reality show gets burned to the f-ing ground. That an obese monster with a child that goes by "Honey Boo Boo" is going straight to TMZ to threaten to sue a network that used to be knows as "The Learning Channel" because a show called 19 Kids and Counting is not cancelled like her show was due to a molestation accusation. I can't wait to hear the official press release about what the inbreds from Duck Dynasty think about this.

If you watch any of these shows....the current state of television (for the past 10 years) is entirely your fault.

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June was worse.

The Duggars may have made the wrong decisions, but they had more than one kid involved. I imagine they were trying to protect all of their kids. AGAIN, they may not have handled it well.

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I'll restate my disagreement. Again serious inquiry, do you have a daughter or kids, period? From a parent's perspective I don't see a difference in the two. According to your logic, the safety and mental well-being of my daughter has a different value dependent of who her attacker is.

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AFTER the police investigation, do you believe they should have publicized it?

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Jesus Christ, no. No one is saying that. They should have instigated the investigation/counseling the second they found out about the abuse, rather than running out the clock and having it brought to the cops' attention by a TV production company after they became a big deal.

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If you watch any of these shows....the current state of television (for the past 10 years) is entirely your fault.

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Not my fault. I've never seen even a single minute of any of those shows.

Of course, all I watch anymore are Star Trek, M.A.S.H., and Dr. Who reruns on Netflix.

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I was just curious if you discovered it yourself or if it was brought to your attention or what. You don't appear to be fan of whoever this family is so I didn't think you tracked all things Duggar.

I didn't think it was a tough question to answer but you've seem to dodge actually providing, what I thought would be, a simple response each time.

I saw it on Buzzfeed. Is that an acceptable source?

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I was just curious if you discovered it yourself or if it was brought to your attention or what. You don't appear to be fan of whoever this family is so I didn't think you tracked all things Duggar.

I didn't think it was a tough question to answer but you've seem to dodge actually providing, what I thought would be, a simple response each time.

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I already answered your question, and the link where I saw it is in the OP.

I'll restate again, that while they may have made the wrong decisions they were probably working to help all of their kids. Whether I have kids or not seems irrelevant.

I have no idea what they did within the household too address this problem, to help the girls, and to protect them after this came to light.

If you don't see how their decision was harder than Mama June's then you are , maybe, dense.

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They should have instigated the investigation/counseling the second they found out about the abuse, rather than running out the clock and having it brought to the cops' attention by a TV production company after they became a big deal.

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I would agree.

I'm just interested about your child situation because it speaks to what mentality you have when approaching the conversation. I would take any opinion you, or anyone, has about the Marine Corps with a grain of salt unless they were a Marine. Same thing here. Just wanted to know whether or not you can actually put your actual kids in the hypothetical situation.

My point is that the decision, as a father, is not hard. It would be mentally and emotionally taxing, but not hard. My child has been hurt and her attacker has access to her. She needs help and protection from further attacks. My first priority is her safety, then the well-being and mental health of my son, the attacker. The safety of my daughter has the same value to me regardless of who her attacker is. Mama June's boyfriend and the Duggar boy are the same. They endanger the life of a child and it is that parent's responsibility to keep that child safe. One situation is more complicated, but the decision in both should be simple.

We involve the authorities in these matters and counseling because often the abuse isn't localized to a single offense or offender. Playing family sheriff kept this from being investigated further and kept actual counseling from occurring

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That could be the real tragedy here. If the girls didn't get counseling. Also, if Josh didn't get it. It's been shown that when caught at an early age, and treated aggressively, they can help the perpetrator stop.

Thelink dad oA lot posted indicates that the victims and Josh got counseling. I believe this is what I had read previously. So did they get counseling?

I wonder if they got actual counseling or were just talked to by someone from their church.

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His statement mentions that years ago, following his wrongdoing, he confessed to his parents and steps were taken to address the matter. This included speaking with the authorities and counseling for him and his victims.

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Except that they refused to cooperate with the authorities and admitted they lied about counseling. Counseling never occurred per Michelle Duggar's own admission.