One of the Duggar kids is a chi-mo

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His statement mentions that years ago, following his wrongdoing, he confessed to his parents and steps were taken to address the matter. This included speaking with the authorities and counseling for him and his victims.
Except that they refused to cooperate with the authorities and admitted they lied about counseling. Counseling never occurred per Michelle Duggar's own admission.
I suppose it comes down to whose story you believe.

Which is why I continue to say, "We don't know".
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From the article you linked:
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His statement mentions that years ago, following his wrongdoing, he confessed to his parents and steps were taken to address the matter. This included speaking with the authorities and counseling for him and his victims.
Except that they refused to cooperate with the authorities and admitted they lied about counseling. Counseling never occurred per Michelle Duggar's own admission.
I suppose it comes down to whose story you believe.

Which is why I continue to say, "We don't know".

Why wouldn't you believe the mom? He has incentive to lie about him and his victims getting counseling. She does not.
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I wonder if they got actual counseling or were just talked to by someone from their church.


Some licensed counselors are Cerritos who go to church. Some churches minister to those who need counseling.

Not saying that happened here.
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I wonder if they got actual counseling or were just talked to by someone from their church.


Some licensed counselors are Cerritos who go to church. Some churches minister to those who need counseling.

This was actually a ministry of my last church and we had a licensed counselor in staff. I don't know that they were qualified to address sexual abuse, but some are.

Not saying that happened here.


I thought I was editing my post. Not quoting it.
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I have a bad feeling that if "counseling" happened it was not done by someone with formal qualifications.
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Not arguing that.
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Someone "taught" him that behavior. I bet that person is being protected, which makes this worse and guarantees there are more victims out there.
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The guy they senter him to for 4 months - that's not the guy in jail now for child porn, is it?
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From the article you linked:
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His statement mentions that years ago, following his wrongdoing, he confessed to his parents and steps were taken to address the matter. This included speaking with the authorities and counseling for him and his victims.
Except that they refused to cooperate with the authorities and admitted they lied about counseling. Counseling never occurred per Michelle Duggar's own admission.
I suppose it comes down to whose story you believe.

Which is why I continue to say, "We don't know".

Why wouldn't you believe the mom? He has incentive to lie about him and his victims getting counseling. She does not.
I can't be sure the Mom was properly quoted.

The Mom is also quoted elsewhere as saying they did receive counseling.

Depending upon how you want to slant the story, you could go either way.

Which is why I continue to say "We don't know"
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A summer job with a family friend is totally counseling
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I'm with Dad. Because you can't trust the media to get it right. I'm not saying I'm on the Duggar's side. But that since I don't have all the facts, I will withhold judgement.
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I'm with Dad. Because you can't trust the media to get it right. I'm not saying I'm on the Duggar's side. But that since I don't have all the facts, I will withhold judgement.


So you think the media just made up her elaborated write about not getting counseling and instead being sent away for a summer job. You're living in denial
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Were you all this outraged at Lena Dunham when she admitted molesting her sister?

Not equivocating or justifying Josh's actions, just wondering if this is selective outrage?
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Were you all this outraged at Lena Dunham when she admitted molesting her sister?

Not equivocating or justifying Josh's actions, just wondering if this is selective outrage?


Yes. **** her.
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I was just curious if you discovered it yourself or if it was brought to your attention or what. You don't appear to be fan of whoever this family is so I didn't think you tracked all things Duggar.

I didn't think it was a tough question to answer but you've seem to dodge actually providing, what I thought would be, a simple response each time.
Yes, OP had been investigating this for years and discovered it.
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Yes.
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What message does it send to your daughters to put out a statement expressing sadness in your son's poor "judgment" and NOT A WORD about the victims? They talked about how difficult it was for their family and their faith....how about how difficult it was for your daughters to see you keep your son from being punished for his crimes against them?

Of course, if you're a girl in that family you're not even allowed to get an education. Why would you expect your parents to protect you, keep you away from your molestor, and take a stand for you?
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I was just curious if you discovered it yourself or if it was brought to your attention or what. You don't appear to be fan of whoever this family is so I didn't think you tracked all things Duggar.

I didn't think it was a tough question to answer but you've seem to dodge actually providing, what I thought would be, a simple response each time.
Yes, OP had been investigating this for years and discovered it.
Gotta add that one to my list.

- Personally investigated and discovered that Josh Duggar was a chi mo
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I'm with Dad. Because you can't trust the media to get it right. I'm not saying I'm on the Duggar's side. But that since I don't have all the facts, I will withhold judgement.


So you think the media just made up her elaborated write about not getting counseling and instead being sent away for a summer job. You're living in denial


No. I think the media frequently does a poor job of reporting actual facts, they don't check sources, etc.
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What message does it send to your daughters to put out a statement expressing sadness in your son's poor "judgment" and NOT A WORD about the victims? They talked about how difficult it was for their family and their faith....how about how difficult it was for your daughters to see you keep your son from being punished for his crimes against them?

Of course, if you're a girl in that family you're not even allowed to get an education. Why would you expect your parents to protect you, keep you away from your molestor, and take a stand for you?


I think the girls may have better educations than the boys. Some of them have gone to college.
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Ah..no. They aren't allowed to go to college.
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I was just curious if you discovered it yourself or if it was brought to your attention or what. You don't appear to be fan of whoever this family is so I didn't think you tracked all things Duggar.

I didn't think it was a tough question to answer but you've seem to dodge actually providing, what I thought would be, a simple response each time.
Yes, OP had been investigating this for years and discovered it.
Gotta add that one to my list.

- Personally investigated and discovered that Josh Duggar was a chi mo

At this rate, you'll get made by the Cosa 'Meaux-stra in no time!
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Ah..no. They aren't allowed to go to college.


They may not be allowed to go away to college. But they can go to college.
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They can do lots of things. They CAN wear shorts..but they don't because their parents don't let them

Jana leaves so she can live life
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I was just curious if you discovered it yourself or if it was brought to your attention or what. You don't appear to be fan of whoever this family is so I didn't think you tracked all things Duggar.

I didn't think it was a tough question to answer but you've seem to dodge actually providing, what I thought would be, a simple response each time.
Yes, OP had been investigating this for years and discovered it.
Gotta add that one to my list.

- Personally investigated and discovered that Josh Duggar was a chi mo
Because that is what I meant. After reading through the thread I started to get the feeling that you probably wouldn't give half a **** about this story if it didn't involve someone strongly against something you strongly support (gay marriage/non discrimination ord).

I got the feeling you tried to make it seem like you ran across breaking news and brought it here for discussion but I don't think that is the case.
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http://www.bustle.com/articles/29801-do-the-duggars-go-to-college-yes-and-no
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There is nothing in that link that suggests the girls go to college.
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TLC has pulled the show from the schedule, but no indication of whether or not it will return.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tlc-pulls-19-kids-counting-797638
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TLC has pulled 19 Kids and Counting from its schedule in the wake of star Josh Duggar's admission that he molested several underage girls 12 years ago, including his sisters.

TLC refused to comment on the incident Thursday, but the network sparked outrage later that evening when it ran a 19 Kids and Counting marathon. As of early Friday, the show had been scheduled to air on the morning of May 27, but it has since been taken off the schedule.
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several episodes recorded on my dvr this morning.
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I guess that depends what you mean by "go to college". Since tour concern read their education, I posted that link. The girls can take college-level classes.

Also, they could put to go away to college if they are ready to support themselves.
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They are really awful people. Aren't they?
 
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