YouBet said:

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That's too many trailers. Might as well show the whole movie. We need to get back to actual teaser trailers.

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They're each roughly 1m 15s in length. They're each literally teaser trailers. And I bet they hardly show much at all. We're still a year out. They're not going to blow their wad this early.

TCTTS said:

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YouBet said:

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That's too many trailers. Might as well show the whole movie. We need to get back to actual teaser trailers.

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They're each roughly 1m 15s in length. They're each literally teaser trailers. And I bet they hardly show much at all. We're still a year out. They're not going to blow their wad this early.

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So, 5 total minutes of trailer. Too much!

I'll skip.

It's a "Doomsday clock" get it https://t.co/xCelIY3Rf5

— Daniel Richtman (@DanielRPK) December 13, 2025

Get it while it's hot. The first Doomsday teaser has leaked, albeit in utterly terrible quality, but confirming the lead of movie, the "direct sequel to Endgame" nature, and one other surprise…

Here is the teaser of Avengers Doomsday
Sorry for quality pic.twitter.com/grODGJeUnb

— Germa Nathan (@nath_ga21) December 15, 2025

The ‘AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY’ teasers have been revealed:

• Week 1 — Steve Rogers
• Week 2 — Thor
• Week 3 — Doctor Doom
• Week 4 — Full Teaser Trailer

(via: https://t.co/RRcCh4cEXS) pic.twitter.com/MPPmeCPT61

— Avengers Updates (@AvengersUpdated) December 15, 2025

Studios have to do away with this theater-exclusive-trailer nonsense. It's simply impossible in this day and age to avoid leaks like this. Four days in advance!

TCTTS said:

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Studios have to do away with this theater-exclusive-trailer nonsense. It's simply impossible in this day and age to avoid leaks like this. Four days in advance!

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I agree but do we think they do this for the purpose of actually having leaks? It seems leaks help with viral marketing and increase the hype surrounding it. Marvel has been great with this, especially with the Avengers films.

So i guess Cap having a baby in the past causes Doom to take over

I don't follow. Also, technically it's another timeline/universe, not the past of the main, 616 timeline/universe. That, and Doom is already after Franklin Richard's, so what would Cap's baby have to do with Doom? I'm not saying there can't be a connection, I'm just curious what it would be?

TCTTS said:

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I don't follow. Also, technically it's another timeline/universe, not the past of the main, 616 timeline/universe. That, and Doom is already after Franklin Richard's, so what would Cap's baby have to do with Doom? I'm not saying there can't be a connection, I'm just curious what it would be?

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I'm so confused... what time line will this be?

The main timeline/universe of the MCU is Earth-616. And then, sorry, I should have clarified that Cap *did* go back in time in that same timeline/universe, but him living in that past in the '40s through 2023 (just after the events of Endgame), created a new/alternate BRANCH of Earth-616, not a new UNIVERSE. In other words, the past of the main Earth-616 timeline is NOT the same past where Cap married Peggy and had a baby with her. Does that make sense?

Otherwise, the timeline/universe of The Fantastic Four is Earth-828, where we know at least a portion of Doomsday will also take place.

So, yeah, I have no idea how it'll all play out, I just don't know what Cap having a baby in an alternate Earth-616 branch has to do with Doom. But maybe it has everything to do with Doom? That's why I was asking #1 what he meant by his comment.

CharleyKerfeld said:

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Maybe Cap's baby fights Franklin Richards to the death.

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Cap's kid won't be a "powered" person, though, right? Since Cap got his powers through the serum, not a mutation?

TCTTS said:

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The main timeline/universe of the MCU is Earth-616. And then, sorry, I should have clarified that Cap *did* go back in time in that same timeline/universe, but him living in that past in the '40s through 2023 (just after the events of Endgame), created a new/alternate BRANCH of Earth-616, not a new UNIVERSE. In other words, the past of the main Earth-616 timeline is NOT the same past where Cap married Peggy and had a baby with her. Does that make sense?

Otherwise, the timeline/universe of The Fantastic Four is Earth-828, where we know at least a portion of Doomsday will also take place.

So, yeah, I have no idea how it'll all play out, I just don't know what Cap having a baby in an alternate Earth-616 branch has to do with Doom. But maybe it has everything to do with Doom? That's why I was asking #1 what he meant by his comment.

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This is what I was thinking, but wasn't completely sure. With all the TVA stuff, I was worried I was forgetting something.

So we have:

1) Earth 616a: Main timeline
2) Earth 616b: Branch off the main timeline when Cap went back to stay
3) Earth 828: Fantastic Four, and assumption of some sort of cross over with the rocket ship and Dr Doom.
4) Earth n: all the other crap covered by the TVA

Exactly. That's the way I understand it, at least.

MooreTrucker said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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Maybe Cap's baby fights Franklin Richards to the death.

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Cap's kid won't be a "powered" person, though, right? Since Cap got his powers through the serum, not a mutation?

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Well I was joking, but who knows. What version of Cap is that? The only thing that we know from that trailer is that Marvel is very specifically telling Anthony Mackie that his Cap sucks and is probably going to die first in Doomsday.

I saw a theory on YouTube that made a lot of sense and could account for the Sam of it all...

- At the end of Endgame, when Cap goes back to return all the Infinity Stones, he DOESN'T have his shield. He only has Thor's hammer and the Stones.

- Yet, when Old Man Cap then appears on the bench a few second later, he obviously has his shield again, which he then famously gives to Sam.

- That said, Cap went back to the '40s to be with Peggy AFTER the original version of him - and his shield - became frozen in ice. So in that timeline going forward, future Cap doesn't have his shield, while the original Cap and his shield are still on ice (meaning two Caps technically exist in that timeline, but that's neither here nor there).

- Regardless, then, during the events of Doomsday, Earth-616b Cap ("our" Cap, the one from the future) at some point almost assuredly crosses over/jumps ahead in time to Earth-616a and joins up with the Avengers (or the AvengerZ or whoever the hell) to take on Doom.

- It's at this point that Sam might give the shield BACK to Cap, at least temporarily.

- From there, the events of Doomsday and Secret Wars play out. And then, after both movies/events, Cap goes back in time to Earth-616b to be with Peggy and their baby, they all live a long, happy life, then, in his old age, Cap crosses back over to Earth-616a in 2023, takes a seat on that bench, gives Sam his shield back, and the same scene plays out, only now with way more context/background.

Does that make sense?

Basically, in this scenario, the same shield is traded back-and-forth between Cap and Sam in a time loop of sorts.

Granted, there would be a couple more details than that, and it might be hard to track for general audiences, but it would at least explain everything.

URDeparted said:

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TCTTS said:

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Studios have to do away with this theater-exclusive-trailer nonsense. It's simply impossible in this day and age to avoid leaks like this. Four days in advance!

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I agree but do we think they do this for the purpose of actually having leaks? It seems leaks help with viral marketing and increase the hype surrounding it. Marvel has been great with this, especially with the Avengers films.

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You're probably right.

I was just saying they're probably going to kill Sam because that movie bombed so hard.

Yeah, I figured. My response was more for everyone else, since the whole "who's the real Cap now" (Steve or Sam) thing is still going to have to be addressed.

Movie theaters are literally dying. Nobody wants to pay a gazillion bucks to see preachy trash anymore. Studios are doing everything they can force morons to buy tickets.

¡Todos los planos del trailer #AvengersDoomsday centrado en Steve Rogers en 4k!

Hilo con todas las imágenes 🧵 pic.twitter.com/4OG7CXpemA

— Josep Mira - Del Fan, Para el Fan (@delfanparalfan) December 15, 2025

I think this is the video I watched.

Yeah, it was either a ScreenCrush or New Rockstars video, I can't remember which.

TCTTS said:

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Get it while it's hot. The first Doomsday teaser has leaked, albeit in utterly terrible quality, but confirming the lead of movie, the "direct sequel to Endgame" nature, and one other surprise…

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Wendy's is a better experience than the movie theater. Don't have to deal with Hollywood loons.

TCTTS said:

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Yeah, it was either a ScreenCrush or New Rockstars video, I can't remember which.

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It was New Rockstars.

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The Thor one has been leaked.

The second teaser of AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY focusing on THOR has leaked online. #AvengersDoomsday pic.twitter.com/ElrmWQXH8g

— Ashish Kumar (@ashishK_tweets) December 15, 2025