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*** SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE ***

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This looks amazing
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GiveEmHellBill said:



Not ashamed to say that I bought the first few issues of this comic waaaayyyyyy back in 1985.



Surprised to read that Spider-Ham was created by Tom Defalco. They had a lot of fun with the one-offs and parodies in those days. "What The?" was one of my favorites for a while.
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Ok, I'm back in Texas so here we go, spoiler free but I will mention a character or two we already know about.

I was out in LA at an animation conference called CTNx this past weekend, lots of panels from folks at Pixar, Disney, Dreamworks, Blue Sky, and Sony Animation, and Sony had an Into the Spider-Verse panel scheduled that I made sure to get a pass for. The panelists listed were the directors, an art director, and interestingly enough Phil Lord and Chris Miller.

Directors aren't uncommon at these talks (and most animated film directors aren't huge names) but seeing names as big as the two of them listed was unusual. I was very glad I had a pass because the theater was packed, and they had us lock up our phones as we entered which was also an interesting sign.

Everyone gets seated and they thank us for coming, and then Phil and Chris proceed to be as charming and funny as you'd hope they would be. They said when Sony approached them about the film they told them wouldn't do it unless it was a Miles Morales story. They then go into some concept art, talk about developing the character designs for Miles and for Prowler, discuss how they approached the design of the world, and them most interestingly went into how they're creating the unique look of the film.

The movie is animated on 2s (one "drawing" every 2 frames instead of a drawing on every frame as is typical for CG) which helps give it that sort of hand drawn look. They designed the characters to be a bit flatter with strong silhouettes and also created a more graphic treatment for the renders, and the entire film is rendered without motion blur.

The really cool thing is that the animators had tools that allowed them to actually draw and add graphic elements on top of the animation, so all the extra lines, halftone or crosshatch shading, etc, was added to those shots by hand.

They then ask if we want to see a clip and show a scene with Miles and Prowler that was great, really intense and very well animated.

They start joking around with "Do you guys want to see more? I've got something on my phone, can we Airdrop it?" and then one of them says "or we can show them the whole first act?" Crowd goes nuts and they say "Yeah, let's do that!" and just drop the lights and the Sony logo comes up.

I will keep this totally spoiler free but will talk about the tone so take this as your warning...

As soon as this film starts you know it's different just from the logo treatments (which, speaking as a designer are REALLY cool) and then they dig in and go big.

This movie is VERY self aware. I want to tell you so badly how it starts but want you all to enjoy it as much as I did, so I'll just say it's hilarious and if you're at all a fan of the character or films you'll love it.

It's surprisingly heartfelt. Miles is awkward and lovable in the best way, you like him almost instantly and he's really relatable while seeming like a real modern day teenager.

The action sequences are a blast, they push a bit cartoony but the action feels great and they definitely let Spidey be Spidey. The set up for the multiverse premise works for me, wasn't overwrought and I totally bought in and went with the rest of the story.

And it is hilarious. Granted we watched it with an audience that's perfect for this sort of film, full of animation and comic geeks, but it is seriously laugh out loud funny. There's lots of genuinely funny moments along with some great Spidey/Marvel in jokes.

They cut at the beginning of the graveyard sequence that showed after Venom to raucous applause, and then one of the directors thanked us for reminding him why they made this film and how much they love seeing an audience like ours enjoy it.

They then close out with one more sequence from later on that was...just awesome.

I saw a few folks from Sony around later in the day and I mentioned how much I enjoyed it, one guy asked how much was shown and then said "Ooh, you haven't even seen the really good stuff yet."

So I apologize for pushing this movie into the unrealistic expectations category but I believe it's really that good, easily the most purely entertaining thing I've seen in a long time. And it's going to kill at the box office.

T-minus 4 weeks and counting...
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Thanks for taking the time to write all this out. Sounds like an awesome experience, and you've got me that much more excited for when this finally hits.
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Awesome post. Thanks for sharing... what a cool experience.

Officially getting hyped for this.
**** THE RANGERS

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Sweet! Is it good enough that this could be Sony's new direction for Spidey?
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TCTTS said:

Thanks for taking the time to write all this out. Sounds like an awesome experience, and you've got me that much more excited for when this finally hits.


ditto what tctts said
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Happy to share guys, glad y'all enjoyed. I'm genuinely excited for everyone to see this film.

As far as a future direction for Spidey it's hard to say. I'd assume that solving the multiverse issue is what drives most of the plot forward for this film so I'd imagine they would wrap that up and reset everything back to normal. Whether that leaves other things in this world for them to explore remains to be seen.

I do think the characters and especially Miles present a really rich world to base more films around, and I hope we at least get more of him in some capacity.

ADDENDUM: Per my friend at Sony, that was Phil that got emotional at our screening.
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Told y'all Love that the reviews are this good.

And yes, the cameo is fantastic.
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I know this is premature, but could we potentially live in a world where Spider-Man can win an Oscar?

But this year might be the best Spider-Man year in some time.

1. Scene stealer in Infinity War, the highest grossing movie of the year.
2. Comic has been incredible recently under a new creative team.
3. The PS4 Game has been one of the best reviewed games of the year by just about everybody.
4. Into the Spider-Verse coming out to rave reviews.

Add Venom making more than 800 million and the comic has been something special as well.
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C@LAg said:

It also means no chance that Disney/Marvel get the rights back to ALL of its characters any time soon.


Right. Which is very disappointing to me. It's more likely now that Sony cranks out their villain-verse and takes back Tom Holland in a few years. But I'll save my complaining about that for the MCU thread.
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And somehow Disney managed to fire these directors because they didn't "get" Star Wars...
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Already plans for a Miles Morales sequel AND a Spider-Woman spin-off.
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So the random question, could this affect the MCU at all? Does Disney/Marvel start to see animation as a viable direction for maybe some of their lesser properties?

DC has actually done far better in their animated universe than their cinematic one.
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TCTTS said:




best superhero movie of 18? has Infinity War already been forgotten? Either way, I'm getting reluctantly hyped for this animated film.
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Great interview with Phil Lord and Chris Miller about the film and a new scene from the movie (we've seen part of it in one of the trailers). Interview has one or two tiny spoilers about the multiverse and the cameo.

https://www.fandango.com/movie-news/interview-into-the-spider-verse-producers-phil-lord-and-chris-miller-talk-spider-man-stan-lee-and-reinventing-the-comic-book-movie-753510

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I'm curious about the December box office. There may be a decent amount of box office cannibalism. For example:

- 12/14 Spiderverse
- 12/19 Mary Poppins
- 12/21 Bumblebee
- 12/21 Aquaman

I bet at least one of those wishes it had waited until January or so.
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Unfortunately, it's looking like Spider-Man is the one that should have waited for Jan/Feb...

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Do kids movies really track accurately from ticket pre sales?

I'm definitely taking my kids to see this, but I'd never even think of buying tickets early for an animated movie.
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How is it different than buying tickets for any other film you'd want to get good seats for? I also wouldn't call this one a kids movie (which is another animation discussion I won't get into), it's got a lot more appeal to a broad audience.

It's definitely a crowded box office in December, but I do think this will outperform the estimates.
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Of all these listed, I've been more excited for the Spider Man movie over another D.C. movie, a Mary Poppins reboot, and a Transformers franchise that repeatedly dashes any hopes I ever have that that universe could be good on the big screen.

Count me as someone who will be seeing this in theaters!
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I've already bought my tickets
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I want to see this, but I can tell it will be a hard sell convincing my gf she wants to see a cartoon Spider-Man movie. And she loves seeing all the live-action Marvel movies in theater.

It makes me wonder how well this film will do financially, even if it's all it's cracked up to be.
 
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