Trex scene was the best part but come on...raft didn't pop? Sheeeeiiiii
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So far, I'd say I'm seeing around 70% "great" / 15% "not great" / 10% "eh, decent" reactions from everyone getting out of the screenings tonight. I'm not discounting any complaints here, but based on the broader reactions this thing isn't going to come close to bombing.
Home from the theater now. In general I just enjoyed the tension of the action sequences. And, you know, there was no clone girl trying to relate to the dinosaurs, and no crazy defense contractor using dinosaurs as weapons. Also, on the fan service side, some really nice call backs to the original without going overboard with the nostalgia.
My gripes:
1. I didn't like the story with Rupert Friend's character trying to kill the girl. They already had a reason for him to come into conflict with the others, and in truth they didn't even really do much with it when he was confronted. The civilians could have gone overboard accidentally, or just got separated when they all had to jump ship anyway.
2. The family dynamics of the civilians were weird, particularly at first, and just felt like a different movie was going on.
3. I don't know why this franchise continues to obsess about mutant dinosaurs. Leave that crap in the last trilogy. They could have done the same stuff with real species.
My gripes:
1. I didn't like the story with Rupert Friend's character trying to kill the girl. They already had a reason for him to come into conflict with the others, and in truth they didn't even really do much with it when he was confronted. The civilians could have gone overboard accidentally, or just got separated when they all had to jump ship anyway.
2. The family dynamics of the civilians were weird, particularly at first, and just felt like a different movie was going on.
3. I don't know why this franchise continues to obsess about mutant dinosaurs. Leave that crap in the last trilogy. They could have done the same stuff with real species.
Did I apologize for you clicking on spoiler tags? No. That's what they're for. Did you spoil a plot of a movie (that you haven't seen) while posting stuff NOT using spoiler tags?Quote:
If that's true (which it's not), consider it payback for you ruining the end of Presumed Innocent for me, and then being utterly unapologetic about it afterward.
Yep, you sure did. You'll know when you actually see the movie. Rather than just repost random tweets about it.
You might notice how I didn't specify how she was good.Sea Speed said:Cinco Ranch Aggie said:Yes. I thought the movie was decent. I thought I would hate Black Widow in it, but she was good. The t-rex sequence was legit terrifying.TCTTS said:
A different auditorium to still see JPR or something else?
I have no idea how you could take her seriously as some 10+ year grizzled specops operator. She had like two scenes that they tried to make her a badass in and the rest was her being comedic relief.
I thought it was clear she was having fun in the role. She was basically comedic relief, yes. As for being a bad ass, she wasn't but then neither was anyone else, with the possible exception of the boat driver.
Definitely better than the last two, maybe better than JP3.
My cat is better at breaking human skin than that T-rex was against that raft.Sea Speed said:
Trex scene was the best part but come on...raft didn't pop? Sheeeeiiiii
I made that observation to my daughter while watching. Laughably bad.Sea Speed said:
Trex scene was the best part but come on...raft didn't pop? Sheeeeiiiii
Did anyone pick up on the one line of dialogue when they are walking in.the river and we see a.snake thing and SJ says "something just moved past my leg". Seemed to be a reference to the trash compactor critter in Star Wars.
20ag07 said:Did I apologize for you clicking on spoiler tags? No. That's what they're for. Did you spoil a plot of a movie (that you haven't seen) while posting stuff NOT using spoiler tags?Quote:
If that's true (which it's not), consider it payback for you ruining the end of Presumed Innocent for me, and then being utterly unapologetic about it afterward.
Yep, you sure did. You'll know when you actually see the movie. Rather than just repost random tweets about it.
It was a thread about the TV show, not the movie.
And multiple people had asked for no discussion whatsoever of the movie in the thread.
Because I was caught up with the show, I assumed your spoiler tags had to do with show, and I was curious what you had to say about the episodes I had already seen. Given the amount of times we said no movie discussion in the thread, I also assumed you were a courteous/obliging person.
Turns out I was wrong. And then even more wrong when you continued to be your usual, pompous self in the aftermath.
To that end, it should have been no surprise to find that you're also someone who texts during movies.
When F16 finds this (and I'm not sure they will bc of how badly it's going to bomb) it's going to be a shtshow. So buckle up for that one.
And your usual pompous self is out here spoiling movies bc he needs to post 80 different tweets from other people about a movie he hasn't seen.
Guess what dude- you spoiled a plot line. Not just for me.
I've seen the movie. You haven't. And knew it when it arrived in the movie. You probably won't remember bc you reposted 80 different tweets.
And here you are calling someone else pompous, unprompted?
Guess what dude- you spoiled a plot line. Not just for me.
I've seen the movie. You haven't. And knew it when it arrived in the movie. You probably won't remember bc you reposted 80 different tweets.
And here you are calling someone else pompous, unprompted?
The only possible thing that could be political in this movie is the insinuation that the drug company is bad because they want to make money off medicine.
The line "science is for everyone" was particularly dumb though.
The line "science is for everyone" was particularly dumb though.
Oh, they are not going to like the casting. Didn't say I agreed with them. Or that they couldn't defy your expectations of "the only possible thing that could be political". They'll come for this one.Quote:
The only possible thing that could be political in this movie is the insinuation that the drug company is bad because they want to make money off medicine.
20ag07 said:
And your usual pompous self is out here spoiling movies bc he needs to post 80 different tweets from other people about a movie he hasn't seen.
Guess what dude- you spoiled a plot line. Not just for me.
I've seen the movie. You haven't. And knew it when it arrived in the movie. You probably won't remember bc you reposted 80 different tweets.
And here you are calling someone else pompous, unprompted?
Nope.
I'm not going to let you keep telling this lie.
First of all, I just counted and I've only posted a whopping 12 reaction tweets in this thread. So your "80" number is just a bit off.
Secondly, my main reason for going back and checking the tweets was to see just what in the world you keep going on about, re: this "spoiler," even though I was certain I didn't post one.
Turns out, once again, you're flat out wrong, as there isn't a single dino mentioned in a single tweet that isn't featured in the in the trailers, behind-the-scenes reels, or interviews.
So you can keep harping on and on about it all you want, but whatever the hell you're talking about is on you, not me, seeing as officially released marketing materials are fair game.
Why every time I come back to this thread it's always derailed… my goodness people… it's a movie about dinosaurs… and science fiction… anything other than that on here… IRRELEVANT, take the pissing matches about random other things elsewhere! Respectfully…
20ag07 insisted on a $100 bet with me months ago that this movie wouldn't live up to box office expectations.
In other words, he's had it out for this thing since day one.
And now that he's seen it, he's trying desperately to convince everyone just how bad it is/how right he was, in one of his typical manic episodes, bringing politics and phantom spoilers and everything else he possibly can into the discussion.
And who knows, maybe I end up disliking the movie as well.
But good gosh, I at least won't be this weird about it.
Anyway, apologies for letting our beef get in the way of the reactions. I'll shut up now.
In other words, he's had it out for this thing since day one.
And now that he's seen it, he's trying desperately to convince everyone just how bad it is/how right he was, in one of his typical manic episodes, bringing politics and phantom spoilers and everything else he possibly can into the discussion.
And who knows, maybe I end up disliking the movie as well.
But good gosh, I at least won't be this weird about it.
Anyway, apologies for letting our beef get in the way of the reactions. I'll shut up now.
This argument is more entertaining than this terrible movie.
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You did it more than once.
And when you actually see the movie (which you haven't) you'll know that.
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You did it more than once.
And when you actually see the movie (which you haven't) you'll know that.
SHE'S IN THE TRAILERS.
SHE'S IN THE BEHIND-THE-SCENES REELS.
THEY TALK ABOUT HER IN INTERVIEWS.
Holy crap, are you illiterate?
SHE'S IN THE BEHIND-THE-SCENES REELS.
THEY TALK ABOUT HER IN INTERVIEWS.
Holy crap, are you illiterate?
TCTTS, you're probably one of my favorite posters on here just based on all the info you bring to the entertainment board, nothing I said was directed at you to be clear. I like if I want to find something entertainment related chances are you already posted about it somewhere over the years.
I'd like to believe everyone here is adults and if **** gets spoiled for someone… well… no one is holdin guns to our heads. It was clicked out of curiosity. And if it was clicked by mistake or if someone got something spoiled… well… it's not the end of the world… we all have way bigger problems than worrying about stuff like that… especially on a movie that gives us nothing in return other than a break from reality for a few hours.
I'd like to believe everyone here is adults and if **** gets spoiled for someone… well… no one is holdin guns to our heads. It was clicked out of curiosity. And if it was clicked by mistake or if someone got something spoiled… well… it's not the end of the world… we all have way bigger problems than worrying about stuff like that… especially on a movie that gives us nothing in return other than a break from reality for a few hours.
I appreciate it.
And big picture, I agree.
And big picture, I agree.
Is it as good as the original, not even close, but it's a step up from the last trilogy (more on par with JP3) and has some legit scary moments. This movie isn't close to awful.
Liked
The T-Rex river scene was pretty awesome. It isn't quite as good as the scene from the book, but I enjoyed it.
All of the water based action was pretty solid and a nice addition to the franchise as most of the big sequences have been on land in the past movies.
There is a second group of characters that end up with the main group that I thought was enjoyable, except one character. The dad was a likable character.
This one did the best job of building suspense and tension of any since JP3. The Jurassic World trilogy was campy by comparison and this one at least attempted to make it more scary.
The story was much more contained and straightforward than the last few.
Didn't like
The attempts at humor fell flat in most cases, particularly with the boyfriend in the other group. They tried to make him funny but he was obnoxious.
Mahershala Ali is way too talented for the character he played. Severely underutilized.
Scarlett Johannsen, who I think was decent overall, just didn't come across as the badass mercenary they wanted. They should have swapped her role with the paleontologist.
There was some pretty bad CGI at times
Go see it and enjoy some new and unique dinosaur sequences
Liked
The T-Rex river scene was pretty awesome. It isn't quite as good as the scene from the book, but I enjoyed it.
All of the water based action was pretty solid and a nice addition to the franchise as most of the big sequences have been on land in the past movies.
There is a second group of characters that end up with the main group that I thought was enjoyable, except one character. The dad was a likable character.
This one did the best job of building suspense and tension of any since JP3. The Jurassic World trilogy was campy by comparison and this one at least attempted to make it more scary.
The story was much more contained and straightforward than the last few.
Didn't like
The attempts at humor fell flat in most cases, particularly with the boyfriend in the other group. They tried to make him funny but he was obnoxious.
Mahershala Ali is way too talented for the character he played. Severely underutilized.
Scarlett Johannsen, who I think was decent overall, just didn't come across as the badass mercenary they wanted. They should have swapped her role with the paleontologist.
There was some pretty bad CGI at times
Go see it and enjoy some new and unique dinosaur sequences
I see no spoiler. You're seriously reaching on this one.
Who tf is Dolores? The bird dino?
She's a baby dinosaur seen in the little girl character's backpack and a few other shots in the trailers.
And the fact that we "fall in love" with her and she's "the GOAT" are both apparently massive spoilers that ruin the entire viewing experience.
Kind of like the time Roger Ebert infamously spoiled Pulp Fiction by saying he "loved" the character of "The Wolf."
Which *checks notes* never actually happened, seeing as it would be an insane accusation/conclusion to draw.
And the fact that we "fall in love" with her and she's "the GOAT" are both apparently massive spoilers that ruin the entire viewing experience.
Kind of like the time Roger Ebert infamously spoiled Pulp Fiction by saying he "loved" the character of "The Wolf."
Which *checks notes* never actually happened, seeing as it would be an insane accusation/conclusion to draw.
She reminded me of the triceratops from Land Before Time.
And the bird dino reminded me of Kevin from Up.
And the bird dino reminded me of Kevin from Up.
Saw this last night. There are two sets of characters and one of them is just super annoying the entire film. Im not sure how that part of the storyline even made it into the movie. Other than that, a decent flick.
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I went to the secret movie hoping it was JWR (it was) and fearful it was Megan 2.0 (thank God it wasn't).
Look, the Jurassic movies are a formula, and this movie sticks to it. If you are going into it with the expectations of a good time, it succeeds. The 7th movie in a franchise isn't going to blow your face off with wonder.
But the cast is game, the set pieces are fun, the dinos are scary and I enjoyed the ride. Yes there are kids in the movie, but they don't make dumb decisions to put themselves in danger needlessly, which was a nice change.
Probably third best in the franchise, IMHO.
They need help with the score tho. If it wasn't paying homage to Williams' classic, then it was just a hot mess of weird music.
Look, the Jurassic movies are a formula, and this movie sticks to it. If you are going into it with the expectations of a good time, it succeeds. The 7th movie in a franchise isn't going to blow your face off with wonder.
But the cast is game, the set pieces are fun, the dinos are scary and I enjoyed the ride. Yes there are kids in the movie, but they don't make dumb decisions to put themselves in danger needlessly, which was a nice change.
Probably third best in the franchise, IMHO.
They need help with the score tho. If it wasn't paying homage to Williams' classic, then it was just a hot mess of weird music.
I forgot about the music. There were definitely some noticeably off music choices and I never notice that sort of thing.
Regarding Dolores, saying things like "fall in love with her" or "GOAT" is at worst silly, but is not in any way a spoiler. And heck, for me, I kept wanting to yell at the screen to leave that f-ing thing. It was akin to Lucas re-inventing the teddy bear and calling it an Ewok, which in essence is designed only to sell some toys. Plus it was eye-rolling when they let her carry that thing off the island in a backpack. Ole Dad didn't have the sense to tell his child that thing would eventually grow up and be far too big to fit into a backpack? Then there's the whole setup to the movie, which stated that every nation has laws against anyone traveling anywhere near this group of islands, no contact with dinosaurs allowed for any reason, all that stuff. Oh, and dinos dropping dead due to the climate not being friendly to them in areas too far away from the equator.
Now that I have slept on this one, I like it less than JP3, probably by a statistically irrelevant margin but I have always been a fan of that third movie. Not to the extent of its predecessors, but it's one of those movies that has a largely unearned bad reputation.
Like someone else said here, this movie does attempt to be scary. Last night was the first time since I was 12 that I remember wanting to cover my eyes during the T-Rex sequence (I in fact did watch much of Alien in June 79 through my fingers over my eyes). The T-Rex sequence was the last major set piece from Crichton's original novel that had not found its way to film. As such, it is not exactly as depicted in the book (other than the obvious difference in characters involved), but holy hell, that was legitimately a terrifying sequence. It starts as edge of your seat suspense after it wakes up and is looking in a different direction from the family trying to get into the raft - and then it finally notices them. It's in the water with them. And then the f-ing thing gets out of the water and moves ahead of them to play a Rocky Mountain bear going fishing. Then came that final part where the little girl gets out of the overturned raft and barely gets to the protection of those rocks before it could get her. The sequence ends with what turned out to be an effective jump scare, with the raft popping out of the water literally moments after the T-Rex decided the effort was not worth the reward.
As someone who is on F16 a lot, I'll just say that some of you folks have allowed F16 free rent in your heads. Politics in movies is much like politics in day to day life - it's a real thing. It's when politics are used as a hammer to shove something down an audience's throat where it becomes bothersome. Having said that, this movie has some political references to things like "climate change" or greedy business interests (uh, on that last, anyone remember The Lost World or any of the sequel trilogy, it's not like that's a new theme for these movies). It's not heavy-handed. It's not force-fed. It's just there. And you know the business "bad guy" was gonna end up in some dinosaur gut. Then you had to know that the main characters, who discussed what they could do alternatively with the dinosaur blood they were collecting that would benefit all rather than the few, would elect the former of those choices. Not real political.
Now that I have slept on this one, I like it less than JP3, probably by a statistically irrelevant margin but I have always been a fan of that third movie. Not to the extent of its predecessors, but it's one of those movies that has a largely unearned bad reputation.
Like someone else said here, this movie does attempt to be scary. Last night was the first time since I was 12 that I remember wanting to cover my eyes during the T-Rex sequence (I in fact did watch much of Alien in June 79 through my fingers over my eyes). The T-Rex sequence was the last major set piece from Crichton's original novel that had not found its way to film. As such, it is not exactly as depicted in the book (other than the obvious difference in characters involved), but holy hell, that was legitimately a terrifying sequence. It starts as edge of your seat suspense after it wakes up and is looking in a different direction from the family trying to get into the raft - and then it finally notices them. It's in the water with them. And then the f-ing thing gets out of the water and moves ahead of them to play a Rocky Mountain bear going fishing. Then came that final part where the little girl gets out of the overturned raft and barely gets to the protection of those rocks before it could get her. The sequence ends with what turned out to be an effective jump scare, with the raft popping out of the water literally moments after the T-Rex decided the effort was not worth the reward.
As someone who is on F16 a lot, I'll just say that some of you folks have allowed F16 free rent in your heads. Politics in movies is much like politics in day to day life - it's a real thing. It's when politics are used as a hammer to shove something down an audience's throat where it becomes bothersome. Having said that, this movie has some political references to things like "climate change" or greedy business interests (uh, on that last, anyone remember The Lost World or any of the sequel trilogy, it's not like that's a new theme for these movies). It's not heavy-handed. It's not force-fed. It's just there. And you know the business "bad guy" was gonna end up in some dinosaur gut. Then you had to know that the main characters, who discussed what they could do alternatively with the dinosaur blood they were collecting that would benefit all rather than the few, would elect the former of those choices. Not real political.
I actually don't think it has any references to climate change as you may think of it in a political sense, only that the climate has changed since dinosaurs roamed the earth. I'm usually pretty keen on picking up THE MESSAGE, but I didnt think that was it.
The message was capitalistic big drug company evil.
The message was capitalistic big drug company evil.
Actually, I agree, but to the masses out there, the term "climate change" means something other than the natural cycles of the climate on planet Earth.Sea Speed said:
I actually don't think it has any references to climate change as you may think of it in a political sense, only that the climate has changed since dinosaurs roamed the earth. I'm usually pretty keen on picking up THE MESSAGE, but I didnt think that was it.
The message was capitalistic big drug company evil.
Bottom quintile strikes again.
You assumed I meant quality by saying "as if". I am referring to content. The movies have to be ******ed enough to be consumed by the bottom quintile, otherwise the studios are alienating a large portion of potential audiences. See tenet and how the ******ed masses didn't get it.
Worth 4D? I gotta drive several hours for it. Not sure anymore.
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