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I actually disagree with this being the end. I think that ending twists sets up some interesting parallel stories going forward. Also frees the characters up to do some new things.

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I agree. There's potential for a Toy Story 5. Jessie and some other of Molly's toys were barely in TS4. There's so much to explore in this world: the duties, purpose, and loyalties of a toy as a kid ages, the same when a kid embraces technology, the world of lost toys, life of a defective toy, the life of a broken toy.

I'm glad people have enjoyed the movie because the marketing definitely looked like some interns put it together (The gang's taking another wacky adventure!)
After being at Disneyland and its various stores, the week before it opened, I could live my whole life without ever needing to see another iteration of Forky again.

Saw it twice this weekend...took my little brother and then got invited to go with my girlfriend's family. I thought it was really well done and enjoyed it, I wish there was a little bit more of Buzz Lightyear, but other than that no complaints.

I would still say it is my least favorite of the four, but I have enjoyed all of them.

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One of the worst marketed Disney movies I can remember. I have to go back to BFG to remember something as bad or worse.

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If you count Pixar, I think The Good Dinosaur was the worst. So poorly marketed, I think most people would struggle to name it in a line-up of Pixar movies.

I agree with the poor marketing.

Admittedly, I don't watch live / cable TV, so maybe there was a big push on the kids' channels, but not much that I saw anywhere else.

I legitimately forgot that movie existed. (Never saw it, either.)

Good call.

It's definitely weak for a Pixar story, has some interesting moments and still some decent emotional impact at the end, but doesn't generate near the empathy that the Toy Story films, Wall-E, or Inside Out does.

And I actually mentioned to my wife last night that this film kind of snuck up on us, I don't think it was nearly as heavily marketed as their other films have been.

I just cannot understand why they thought sandwiching this movie between Aladdin and The Lion King was a good idea.

I honestly think all 3 of those could have been hugely successful if they were spread out more, and maybe one of them moved to next summer.

With the proper marketing push, this movie could have opened to the original predictions of $180M.

Guess we'll see if they are going to start the heavy push for The Lion King here soon. Up to now, it's been relatively quiet, and ticket sales already started.

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I just cannot understand why they thought sandwiching this movie between Aladdin and The Lion King was a good idea.

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In the case of Disney/Pixar, their movies released on a weekend of June (particularly on Father's Day) have been really successful to them since 2006 when the first Cars movie came out.

Yea, I don't get putting all of these huge properties out in the same summer. I would have thrown in Pocahontas or one of the lesser Disney properties if they just wanted to have one more $ maker out this year.

My main gripe with it was the "inner voice" of Buzz. They basically made him out to be an idiot that did not know he has a conscience and had not grown since the beginning of TS1. It just did not sit right with me.

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My main gripe with it was the "inner voice" of Buzz. They basically made him out to be an idiot that did not know he has a conscience and had not grown since the beginning of TS1. It just did not sit right with me.

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That was a dumb gag, but it was funny. The bigger gripe I have have is Gabby Gabby is a psychopathic kidnapper who tortured Woody, but yet at the end we are supposed to hope she gets to go home with a kid?

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I actually disagree with this being the end. I think that ending twists sets up some interesting parallel stories going forward. Also frees the characters up to do some new things.

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I agree. There's potential for a Toy Story 5. Jessie and some other of Molly's toys were barely in TS4. There's so much to explore in this world: the duties, purpose, and loyalties of a toy as a kid ages, the same when a kid embraces technology, the world of lost toys, life of a defective toy, the life of a broken toy.

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Joking right? I hope.

And there will not be a TS5 without Woody...

I thought this was a good but not great Pixar movie with a very powerful ending. Probably the second best ending to a Pixar movie behind TS3.

When did I say Woody wouldn't be in it. There could be more stories of him and his new gang matching lost tots to kids in need.
Or if he and Bo decide to adopt a baby toy. There wouldn't be a dry eye in the theater if they realize they are raising the kid without a purpose and give it to human baby in need. Especially if it was Andy's kid.

Enjoyed it. Not the emotional tear-jerker that TS3 was, but still a great movie.

I was surprised it was G because the scenes with the evil puppets were pretty intense. My nearly 5 year old grandson nearly jumped out of his seat. I thought it was good. I did not cry like I did at the end of 3, but I like the idea of Woody having someone who really cares about him. It was sad to see him as just another toy.

Made $20M on Tuesday. Seems like word is getting out on this movie and legs will be very strong.

Could still have a very successful domestic run.

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Toy Story 3 ended on a strong note. I loved TS4, but I don't think woody will be back. I feel like this was Tom Hanks saying to Pixar, okay, one last rodeo, but then I'm hanging it up. The story was very heavy on wrapping up his and Bo-peeps story line, and finding life after kids. Buzz and the gang really took a back seat in this one. If they do a TS5, I forsee it without woody.

I was not going to see this movie until it came to video, but the daughter and I had some time this afternoon, and this was the only choice we could agree to (others that she mentioned were garbage like Child's Play or Ma, or choices that we'd already seen). The biggest reason I had little interest in seeing this in the theater was that I found the ending of Toy Story 3 to be absolutely perfect; that wrapped up everything nicely and no new movie should have been made.

Well, okay, they made a fourth Toy Story. As a movie, it was enjoyable, but perhaps selfishly, I found myself watching it with the idea that it didn't need to be made. Perhaps I'll enjoy it more upon a next viewing.

Gonna use the spoiler tags just in case ....
I really liked the Gabby storyline. Forky was funny at first but then became an annoyance. I really didn't care for separating Woody and the other toys, although I do recognize that doing so can set up some different paths they can take should they decide to do a fifth TS.

It's been 24 years since Toy Story came out and 9 years in the movie universe, so if they eventually do TS5 I'm betting we'll get a huge ~20 year jump to "present day", and bring it full circle with Andy's kids.

Here's something I was wondering. Woody was made in the 50s, yet Andy is the only kid he ever speaks of. There has been speculation over the years that woody belonged to Andy's mom or dad, but that doesn't seem the case after TS3.

Did woody really go 40 years without a kid? If not, why doesn't he ever speak of the other kid(s) ?

If Woody belonged to one of the parents, I don't think the mom would let him get rid of it.

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Maybe he was a valued part of some toy collector's collection who died and his collection was sold at estate ... or something like that?

And please Disney, if you happen to see this, I am by no means suggesting a prequel to flesh out Woody's back story.

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Maybe he was a valued part of some toy collector's collection who died and his collection was sold at estate ... or something like that?

And please Disney, if you happen to see this, I am by no means suggesting a prequel to flesh out Woody's back story.

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Except in toy story 2, he had no idea how valuable he was, did not know anything about Jessie , the prospector, or his horse.

How/why would you do a current day movie with Andy's kids and yet Woody is gone and has been a free range toy for 20+ more years and somehow magically finds his way back and is still in good shape....nope

So we're taking our boys (10 and 13) tomorrow night.

Wife gets home today and we're getting ready for date night and she says I gotta tell you something hilarious. So, our older boy is always pulling his brother's chain because that's what brothers do. Wife says on the ride home he blurts out "I read spoilers and Woody totally dies in this one". Our younger son gets this terrible look on his face and asks how/why? Teen says "towards the end this crappy kid throws him out the window of the car and he bounces off the sidewalk and gets run over by a lawnmower and just shredded in to bits. The end. By Woody." My wife and I have pretty sarcastic senses of humor, if not a little dark, so it's all she can do to sustain her snarkiness and not LOL. Give the kid credit, it's funny. She's assures #2 that bubba is joking.

The boys come in our room and I can hear them arguing so I get up and walk out to see what's going on. My younger boy runs ups and says "Hunter said he read spoilers and Woody is thrown out of a car and run over by a lawnmower. Is that true dad?". My response "no your brother is full of it, Disney stock would have taken a 12-15% hit and the head of Pixar would have been fired, I'm sure Woody is fine.". He looks at me with this blank expression. I laugh. The wife laughs. The toaster laughs. I shot the toaster.

Anyway, we're going tomorrow night.

well....It was good, not great. Didn't hit the feels until the very end. Wasn't a fan of Forky. Didn't really like what they did with Buzz's role. Still had fun. New rankings:

TS3
TS2
TS1
TS4

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I was surprised it was G because the scenes with the evil puppets were pretty intense. My nearly 5 year old grandson nearly jumped out of his seat. I thought it was good. I did not cry like I did at the end of 3, but I like the idea of Woody having someone who really cares about him. It was sad to see him as just another toy.

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I think Disney has enough clout to basically pick their ratings. But yes, I thought it was a little intense for a G movie.

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I was surprised it was G because the scenes with the evil puppets were pretty intense. My nearly 5 year old grandson nearly jumped out of his seat. I thought it was good. I did not cry like I did at the end of 3, but I like the idea of Woody having someone who really cares about him. It was sad to see him as just another toy.

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I think Disney has enough clout to basically pick their ratings. But yes, I thought it was a little intense for a G movie.

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I'm actually curious how scary this might have been to small kids. They don't have the context yet that ventriloquist dolls or dolls in generally can be creepy.