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Hamilton coming to Disney+ July 3rd
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GoAgs92 said:PatAg said:Give some examples of rap you do like, otherwise you are being disengenous. Choosing to watch a musical that has rapping, when you don't like, is insane.GoAgs92 said:
Do all the songs have that lousy rapping in them, I have only heard a couple songs and the guys terrible rap ruined them.
Beastie Boys, Tribe called Quest, De La Soul, Erik B and Rakim, Public Enemy
90s stuff.
You're in luck. There are several 90's rap callbacks including most obviously Biggie & Grandmaster Flash. And when you say "that guys delivery," there are several guys in this production.
Maybe the raps aren't well done for people with a knowledge of rap?CDub06 said:GoAgs92 said:PatAg said:Give some examples of rap you do like, otherwise you are being disengenous. Choosing to watch a musical that has rapping, when you don't like, is insane.GoAgs92 said:
Do all the songs have that lousy rapping in them, I have only heard a couple songs and the guys terrible rap ruined them.
Beastie Boys, Tribe called Quest, De La Soul, Erik B and Rakim, Public Enemy
90s stuff.
You're in luck. There are several 90's rap callbacks including most obviously Biggie & Grandmaster Flash. And when you say "that guys delivery," there are several guys in this production.
I hate rap music and actually love the Cabinet Battles
Pretty good to go from a 2009 poetry jam at the White House to getting $75 million from Disney for the rights to the movie.
I guess I'll give it another....shot.
tk for tu juan said:
Pretty good to go from a 2009 poetry jam at the White House to getting $75 million from Disney for the rights to the movie.
It's funny how outlandish the idea was he had for a musical about Alexander Hamilton of all people. He had virtually no support early and was laughed at for this idea.
I can't watch musicals on tv, especially if it is 100% signing. I tried to watch it because everyone says it's awesome (I believe them), and I lasted about 30 minutes. I guess I'll have to watch it in a theatre sometime.
I'm sure this has been posted before, but he came up with the idea for Hamilton while on vacation at the resort my wife and I have gone to for the past three years.
I'm sure this has been posted before, but he came up with the idea for Hamilton while on vacation at the resort my wife and I have gone to for the past three years.
Tanya 93 said:Maybe the raps aren't well done for people with a knowledge of rap?CDub06 said:GoAgs92 said:PatAg said:Give some examples of rap you do like, otherwise you are being disengenous. Choosing to watch a musical that has rapping, when you don't like, is insane.GoAgs92 said:
Do all the songs have that lousy rapping in them, I have only heard a couple songs and the guys terrible rap ruined them.
Beastie Boys, Tribe called Quest, De La Soul, Erik B and Rakim, Public Enemy
90s stuff.
You're in luck. There are several 90's rap callbacks including most obviously Biggie & Grandmaster Flash. And when you say "that guys delivery," there are several guys in this production.
I hate rap music and actually love the Cabinet Battles
I'm a hip hop head & the raps are very well done IMO. Lin Manuel has BARS. The cabinet battles are some of my favorites too because I'm so impressed at how well he implements and executes the battle rap style. But as a whole, the songs are just so well constructed that I think anyone can appreciate Hamilton.
Starting this now. The theater announcer introduced himself as "your king, George III," and the audience cheered. 240 years later and New York is still on the wrong side.
Trying way too hard hereDVC2010 said:
Starting this now. The theater announcer introduced himself as "your king, George III," and the audience cheered. 240 years later and New York is still on the wrong side.
It was a good joke
Well damnit. That was incredible.
I guess it depends which guy you heard, because the guy who wrote all of it and plays the main character, is all about 90s rap.GoAgs92 said:
Thats the problem, i love rap...just not that guys delivery.
That was really good. I somehow managed to avoid even the music before tonight.
Also, I'm not apologizing for my sense of humor.
Also, I'm not apologizing for my sense of humor.
Another note about the "poor" rapping.
This was recorded live. No studio recording. All live rapping is nowhere near as good as the studio recording. I think that you are judging unfairly and comparing recorded music vs. live music.
However, I will say this, as I already stated before in this thread, as great as Manuel is, his vocals are just okay. So I would agree if you are saying that Manuel is not that great. However, Lafayette (Daveed Diggs - Tony winner), Burr(Leslie Odom - Tony winner), Angelica (Renee Goldsberry - Tony winner) and Eliza (Phillipa Soo) are fantastic.
Another poor comparison is to simply compare a musical artist in a studio to a broadway artist who is singing 9 times a week, and choreographing the dance/movements at the same time. Watch it again and pay attention to the dancing and movement of the actors.
I've seen it live once and watched the recent video release twice. I appreciate it more each time I watch.
This was recorded live. No studio recording. All live rapping is nowhere near as good as the studio recording. I think that you are judging unfairly and comparing recorded music vs. live music.
However, I will say this, as I already stated before in this thread, as great as Manuel is, his vocals are just okay. So I would agree if you are saying that Manuel is not that great. However, Lafayette (Daveed Diggs - Tony winner), Burr(Leslie Odom - Tony winner), Angelica (Renee Goldsberry - Tony winner) and Eliza (Phillipa Soo) are fantastic.
Another poor comparison is to simply compare a musical artist in a studio to a broadway artist who is singing 9 times a week, and choreographing the dance/movements at the same time. Watch it again and pay attention to the dancing and movement of the actors.
I've seen it live once and watched the recent video release twice. I appreciate it more each time I watch.
Just watched. Thought it was just ok. Probably one of those deals better seen in person. Also probably would have been better had I seen the live musical first then watched this.
they cheered for a couple of reasons 1 being the originator of the role was back for one show so that was a special treat to the audience.DVC2010 said:
Starting this now. The theater announcer introduced himself as "your king, George III," and the audience cheered. 240 years later and New York is still on the wrong side.
So i caanot be the first to make the comparison to Amadeus as far as plot theme. Lesser known guy jealous of the wunderkind and ends up destroying him and regretting it.
I'm wondering if this is going to open the door for other shows to be streamed online Wicked would be really good. As well as dear Evan Hansen.
As far as non-musicals... Harry Potter and the cursed child could bring in a lot of money if it was streamed
As far as non-musicals... Harry Potter and the cursed child could bring in a lot of money if it was streamed
Pretty sure this was just a poor troll attempt.
I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion here, but I thought Lin Manuel kind of sucked as Hamilton. The guy I saw in the touring show was better. Lin just didn't seem like he fit the role to me. He didn't really have the cockyness that was implied in the show. I guess if you create the show, though, you can demand the lead.
AustinAg2K said:
I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion here, but I thought Lin Manuel kind of sucked as Hamilton. The guy I saw in the touring show was better. Lin just didn't seem like he fit the role to me. He didn't really have the cockyness that was implied in the show. I guess if you create the show, though, you can demand the lead.
Same. I've said this in other threads: LMM is an amazing writer, but terrible actor. His voice is step above Gilbert Gottfried for me.
First time to watch the show for me, I enjoyed It but it's over hyped.
AustinAg2K said:
I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion here, but I thought Lin Manuel kind of sucked as Hamilton. The guy I saw in the touring show was better. Lin just didn't seem like he fit the role to me. He didn't really have the cockyness that was implied in the show. I guess if you create the show, though, you can demand the lead.
I find him to be very yappy and annoying.
Yep. First time I saw it and he (Lin) was a detriment to the production.
Really like it though. I think my favorite part was Thomas Jefferson coming back from France.
Really like it though. I think my favorite part was Thomas Jefferson coming back from France.
GoAgs92 said:
Do all the songs have that lousy rapping in them, I have only heard a couple songs and the guys terrible rap ruined them.
How dare you like what you like.
1A) Wait For It
1B) Satisfied
1B) Satisfied
I'm not going to lie, this is like watching a live action Hot Fuzz version of Romeo and Juliette. I don't get the appeal.
what do you not get?Philip J Fry said:
I'm not going to lie, this is like watching a live action Hot Fuzz version of Romeo and Juliette. I don't get the appeal.
The appeal.
Let me be specific. I don't find the vocals particularly strong.
Let me be specific. I don't find the vocals particularly strong.
it is very good creative art performed by some amazingly talented people. Also, it is based on a real dude who is a part of our American story.Philip J Fry said:
The appeal.
Pretty sure Hamilton and Burr were not in some kind of love affairPhilip J Fry said:
...this is like watching a live action Hot Fuzz version of Romeo and Juliette.
of anyone? Because you might be a little bit deaf.Philip J Fry said:
The appeal.
Let me be specific. I don't find the vocals particularly strong.
I find the actual history of Burr and Hamilton fascinating. Sorry, this not so much.
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