So you want me to provide evidence that people who are choosing to remain anonymous have been discriminated against? Really?


Of those who are NOT anonymous they are already providing evidence. You just refuse to believe it.

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Should we apply Occam's Razor to this scenario?

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Heck yeah. In every other industry, liberals are canceling conservatives whenever they can. Yet you believe that Hollywood is the ONE that is politically blind? You would have to assume the opposite of Occam's Razor to believe that BS.


Furthermore, I'm not arguing that EVERY decision maker is denying EVERY conservative EVERY job. Clearly that is not true. Clint Eastwood is still directing, for example. But there are plenty of people in Hollywood that refuse anything to do with them, so their options are limited. It's not like EVERY commie was shut out of Hollywood during the original blacklist either. Their options were limited like conservatives today. But nobody denies that blacklist existed.

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Chick-Fil-A was beaten into submission by the liberal cancel culture.

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lol wut?

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What are you talking about? I don't own Chick-Fil-A stock. Pointing out the fact that Chick-Fil-A was targeted by liberal cancel culture is not "victimhood", it's just stating fact. I supposed to pretend that didn't happen to make your argument more convenient?

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood does not blacklist conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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lol wut?

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What are you talking about? I don't own Chick-Fil-A stock. Pointing out the fact that Chick-Fil-A was targeted by liberal cancel culture is not "victimhood", it's just stating fact. I supposed to pretend that didn't happen to make your argument more convenient?

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When was the last time you watched an NFL game?

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The Superbowl. Why?

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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This is what he does.

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And this is what you do.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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Staff needs to cancel culture this thread.

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Then aTM will complain about the mods censoring him

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And I'd be right.

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This is what he does.

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And this is what you do.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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K

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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James Woods got dropped because he's an a-hole and nobody likes him. His political beliefs may be a symptom of that, but he's not doing himself any favors by picking Twitter fights to pwn the libs.

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So now you are a liar. James Woods released the email where he was dropped on July 4th for what the agent said was "patriotic" reasons. He didn't say, "because you are an a-hole".

And you guys want to be taken seriously on your "it's been proven" claim?

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So you want me to provide evidence that people who are choosing to remain anonymous have been discriminated against? Really?


Of those who are NOT anonymous they are already providing evidence. You just refuse to believe it.

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Should we apply Occam's Razor to this scenario?

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Heck yeah. In every other industry, liberals are canceling conservatives whenever they can. Yet you believe that Hollywood is the ONE that is politically blind? You would have to assume the opposite of Occam's Razor to believe that BS.


Furthermore, I'm not arguing that EVERY decision maker is denying EVERY conservative EVERY job. Clearly that is not true. Clint Eastwood is still directing, for example. But there are plenty of people in Hollywood that refuse anything to do with them, so their options are limited. It's not like EVERY commie was shut out of Hollywood during the original blacklist either. Their options were limited like conservatives today. But nobody denies that blacklist existed.

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I want specific evidence proving your claim that all of these conservatives in Hollywood specifically lost their jobs because of their political beliefs.

If it is as widespread as you claim, it should be incredibly easy to do.

Further, the celebrities you keep citing are either D-listers (due to their talent) who haven't had a meaningful role in years...

Or

They are conservative and very successful.

The bottom line is that Hollywood wants talented folks. Tell me, what's the difference between Clint Eastwood and Antonio Sabato Jr?

Is it their political beliefs, or their talent?

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This is what he does.

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And this is what you do.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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K

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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James Woods got dropped because he's an a-hole and nobody likes him. His political beliefs may be a symptom of that, but he's not doing himself any favors by picking Twitter fights to pwn the libs.

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So now you are a liar. James Woods released the email where he was dropped on July 4th for what the agent said was "patriotic" reasons. He didn't say, "because you are an a-hole".

And you guys want to be taken seriously on your "it's been proven" claim?

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You understand the burden of proof is on you, right? You are the one making the claim. Don't get mad because everything you have tried to prove so far has been absolutely demolished. It's not our fault you aren't doing a good job of proving your point.

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This is what he does.

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And this is what you do.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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K

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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James Woods got dropped because he's an a-hole and nobody likes him. His political beliefs may be a symptom of that, but he's not doing himself any favors by picking Twitter fights to pwn the libs.

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So now you are a liar. James Woods released the email where he was dropped on July 4th for what the agent said was "patriotic" reasons. He didn't say, "because you are an a-hole".

And you guys want to be taken seriously on your "it's been proven" claim?

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Ok, let's say the email is real. Would any agents want to work with someone who shares correspondence like that to the public?

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So now you have to believe:
1) All these conservatives are lying
2) Woods fabricated an email from his agent (and his agent didn't bother to correct it)
3) That Hollywood is the ONLY industry that is not doing the cancel conservatism thing despite them doing it openly and publicly everywhere else

(And BTW, your attempt at moving goalposts is hilarious. Woods retired right after that tweet. He dropped this as he was walking out the Hollywood door. He is not claiming it to be the reason he doesn't have work NOW.)

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So you want me to provide evidence that people who are choosing to remain anonymous have been discriminated against? Really?


Of those who are NOT anonymous they are already providing evidence. You just refuse to believe it.

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Should we apply Occam's Razor to this scenario?

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Heck yeah. In every other industry, liberals are canceling conservatives whenever they can. Yet you believe that Hollywood is the ONE that is politically blind? You would have to assume the opposite of Occam's Razor to believe that BS.


Furthermore, I'm not arguing that EVERY decision maker is denying EVERY conservative EVERY job. Clearly that is not true. Clint Eastwood is still directing, for example. But there are plenty of people in Hollywood that refuse anything to do with them, so their options are limited. It's not like EVERY commie was shut out of Hollywood during the original blacklist either. Their options were limited like conservatives today. But nobody denies that blacklist existed.

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I want specific evidence proving your claim that all of these conservatives in Hollywood specifically lost their jobs because of their political beliefs.

If it is as widespread as you claim, it should be incredibly easy to do.

Further, the celebrities you keep citing are either D-listers (due to their talent) who haven't had a meaningful role in years...

Or

They are conservative and very successful.

The bottom line is that Hollywood wants talented folks. Tell me, what's the difference between Clint Eastwood and Antonio Sabato Jr?

Is it their political beliefs, or their talent?

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Already specified. James Woods published an email from his agent about why he was dropping Woods. And now your fellow deniers are trying to claim Woods fabricated it.

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I still can't believe this entire argument is hinging on Antonio Sabato Jr, James Woods, and Tim Allen, the latter of which is STILL working in mainstream projects and doing just fine. So we're really just talking about Sabato Jr and Woods; a soap actor and a notorious assh*le. It'd be one thing if Tom Hanks came out as conservative and subsequently never worked again. But we're going 'round and 'round about ANTONIO SABATO JR and JAMES WOODS. That's it. It's just incredible how defenders of this conspiracy theory don't see how ridiculous and pathetic their entire argument is.

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Do you think conservatives are outnumbered 12-1 in academia simply because conservatives are just not "A-listers" in the academic community?

I just want to see how far you want to take this naivete.

It is irrelevant that his agent dropped him. If he was talented, agents would be beating down his door.

If Eastwood's agent dropped him, do you think nobody would want to represent him?

Why don't your boys sue, Karen? Kaep sued the NFL for blacklisting him, i heard from lots of conservatives like you on this site that there was no blacklist, it was just about economics. Yet low and behold, the NFL chose to settle the case. Seems like some easy money for the tim allen/ Antonio Sabato production group.

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Chick-Fil-A was beaten into submission by the liberal cancel culture.

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lol wut?

Also, I remember a time when f16 bemoaned 'victimhood' culture. Is that still a thing?

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What are you talking about? I don't own Chick-Fil-A stock. Pointing out the fact that Chick-Fil-A was targeted by liberal cancel culture is not "victimhood", it's just stating fact. I supposed to pretend that didn't happen to make your argument more convenient?

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lol the victimhood mentality comment was applying to YOU, not chick-fila. "woe is me, hollywood blacklisted me for my political beliefs! totally not based on mertis or behavior!"

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This is what he does.

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And this is what you do.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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K

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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James Woods got dropped because he's an a-hole and nobody likes him. His political beliefs may be a symptom of that, but he's not doing himself any favors by picking Twitter fights to pwn the libs.

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So now you are a liar. James Woods released the email where he was dropped on July 4th for what the agent said was "patriotic" reasons. He didn't say, "because you are an a-hole".

And you guys want to be taken seriously on your "it's been proven" claim?

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You understand the burden of proof is on you, right? You are the one making the claim. Don't get mad because everything you have tried to prove so far has been absolutely demolished. It's not our fault you aren't doing a good job of proving your point.

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Remember just because you can count most of the conservative actors on two hands doesn't mean that Hollywood isn't chock full of them, right?

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This is what he does.

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And this is what you do.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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K

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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James Woods got dropped because he's an a-hole and nobody likes him. His political beliefs may be a symptom of that, but he's not doing himself any favors by picking Twitter fights to pwn the libs.

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So now you are a liar. James Woods released the email where he was dropped on July 4th for what the agent said was "patriotic" reasons. He didn't say, "because you are an a-hole".

And you guys want to be taken seriously on your "it's been proven" claim?

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Ok, let's say the email is real. Would any agents want to work with someone who shares correspondence like that to the public?

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So now you have to believe:
1) All these conservatives are lying
2) Woods fabricated an email from his agent (and his agent didn't bother to correct it)
3) That Hollywood is the ONLY industry that is not doing the cancel conservatism thing despite them doing it openly and publicly everywhere else

(And BTW, your attempt at moving goalposts is hilarious. Woods retired right after that tweet. He dropped this as he was walking out the Hollywood door. He is not claiming it to be the reason he doesn't have work NOW.)

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1.) If you make a claim, you have to prove it. It has been shown that conservatives are working in Hollywood, RIGHT NOW. In order for your claim to be true, it would mean that no conservatives would be working in Hollywood.

2.) Woods agents letter is irrelevant. If he was talented, he would have agents beating down his door.

3.) This is not cancel culture. These are actors who haven't had meaningful roles well before Trump was elected now claiming that they aren't getting roles because of their politics. It's an excuse to get attention and they have found willing believers. If they were talented, they would be working. See the actor you brought up, John Rhys-Davies.

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This is what he does.

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The only thing that was being argued in this thread was whether or not Hollywood "blacklists" conservative actors. When proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hollywood does not, in fact, blacklist conservative actors, he moves the goalposts and pivots to the "culture" in general, Friends of Abe, etc, which no one else is arguing. As we all know, of course Hollywood leans left. That's not the issue being discussed, though. All we're saying is that they're not blacklisting conservative actors.

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Where was it "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt" that Hollywood blacklists conservative actors?

Does that mean all the conservatives that say otherwise are lying?

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Yes.

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BS. Those who say otherwise are lying.

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K

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So James Woods is lying that he was dropped by his agent for political reasons?

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James Woods got dropped because he's an a-hole and nobody likes him. His political beliefs may be a symptom of that, but he's not doing himself any favors by picking Twitter fights to pwn the libs.

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So now you are a liar. James Woods released the email where he was dropped on July 4th for what the agent said was "patriotic" reasons. He didn't say, "because you are an a-hole".

And you guys want to be taken seriously on your "it's been proven" claim?

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You understand the burden of proof is on you, right? You are the one making the claim. Don't get mad because everything you have tried to prove so far has been absolutely demolished. It's not our fault you aren't doing a good job of proving your point.

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Remember just because you can count most of the conservative actors on two hands doesn't mean that Hollywood isn't chock full of them, right?

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Did you read any of the articles aTmAg posted? First you guys argue that:

1.) There are lots of conservatives in Hollywood, but they are too afraid to speak out.

Then you argue:

2.) There aren't any conservatives in Hollywood

Can you guys pick one and stop throwing stuff against the wall?

I was going to mention earlier, slight differences between being conservative and being an awful racist person.

His Twitter is...wow.