Is the thinking that the show will end at the time jump? Kind of a shame if so since the Laconian arc is the best along with the Inaros arc
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hunter2012 said:
Is the thinking that the show will end at the time jump? Kind of a shame if so since the Laconian arc is the best along with the Inaros arc
Episode 1 spoilers
that's what I'm assuming. I watched the first episode last night and Holden was talking about the other species though, so who knows what they will do. I hope they remain as true to the books as possible though, and don't try to cram 4 books of story into a final 6th season.
I can't be the only one to crack up that Amos wrote his name over Murtry's bag, and the fact that he took Murtry's bag...
Champ Bailey said:hunter2012 said:
Is the thinking that the show will end at the time jump? Kind of a shame if so since the Laconian arc is the best along with the Inaros arc
Episode 1 spoilers
that's what I'm assuming. I watched the first episode last night and Holden was talking about the other species though, so who knows what they will do. I hope they remain as true to the books as possible though, and don't try to cram 4 books of story into a final 6th season.
I wonder if the time jump will be after this season and they try to combine Nemesis Games and Babylon's Ashes this season and try the time jump and last 3 books in season 6. Persepolis Rising can be done in just a couple of episodes, the others will take time so hopefully it will at least get an extended final season. The only other way I can see them finishing is to dovetail the story(don't want that).
Also can I just say that I thought they cast Erich perfectly, I loved all the Churn references in Ep 2. Hopefully we'll see him on Auberon.
Watched the first episode last night. For book readers why did Bull get brought in NOW?
Amos called her Chrissy
Amos called her Chrissy
For the book readers, I had the captions on and noticed that Drummer's crewmate's name was "Michio"
I noticed that and the fact that the ship had the "free love" thing that was mentioned on Pa's ship in the book. I bet we see a mutiny after Inaros' speech. Then Drummer and gets sidelined or sent to Fred or Medina Station.MGS said:
For the book readers, I had the captions on and noticed that Drummer's crewmate's name was "Michio"
What a great start to the season.
"There was a button. I pushed it."
"Jesus Christ. That really is how you go through life isn't it?"
I'm glad that line made the cut from the book.
"Jesus Christ. That really is how you go through life isn't it?"
I'm glad that line made the cut from the book.
I forgot that was in the book, but nothing sums him up better. I laughed at that one.
Episode 4 is out now. And it is explosive.
Just watched ep 4. So good. Just an amazing show.
Can't wait to see Amos have to get out of the Pit.
Episode is released, no spoiler tags needed right?
Episode is released, no spoiler tags needed right?
Thought yesterday's episode was simply one of the best episodes of sci fi tv I've ever seen
Just watched the newest ep.
This is the best show on TV.
This is the best show on TV.
jabberwalkie09 said:
Episode 4 is out now. And it is explosive.
Too soon.
Sure, there's spaceships realized in a convincing manner, yeah there's that mysterious thing going on with something seemingly magical that every prestige show needs to have, heck, even the politicking and chess games are some of the best, but despite all that they capture humanity and human emotions so, so well. Like, who thinks of that rat backstory?
This show can go three dimensional chess, while staying so grounded in some incredible, weirdly relatable, characters.
This show can go three dimensional chess, while staying so grounded in some incredible, weirdly relatable, characters.
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Seriously one of the best episodes of television I've seen in a while. Not just sci-fi. The little character things, Amos struggling with his emotions around Peaches, Avasarala finally feels like the Avasarala from the books, Naomi and her struggle are all great and feel so real. Drummer has damn near stolen the show for me. Her relationship with Ashford and then this season have been fantastic.
And I was hesitant on the guy they casted for Marco, but he's bringing it.
And the rat story was perfect. I love that they even wrote in Alex's initial skepticism. So great
And I was hesitant on the guy they casted for Marco, but he's bringing it.
And the rat story was perfect. I love that they even wrote in Alex's initial skepticism. So great
israeliag said:
Sure, there's spaceships realized in a convincing manner, yeah there's that mysterious thing going on with something seemingly magical that every prestige show needs to have, heck, even the politicking and chess games are some of the best, but despite all that they capture humanity and human emotions so, so well. Like, who thinks of that rat backstory?
This show can go three dimensional chess, while staying so grounded in some incredible, weirdly relatable, characters.
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I think the rat story came from one of the books but I think it was originally Holden and it was a dog.
Just started season 4. I binged the first 3 in a week. Just posting here to bump the thread because this is by far the best and most underrated show nobody has ever heard of. For some reason I just never clicked play. The description never really made me think I would like it. So glad I finally did.
Season 3 was so great.
israeliag said:
Season 3 was so great.
Everything about the scene with UN1 and the background imagery was amazing. Great episode. Can't wait to see Amos get out of the dungeon, and that mystery meathead go hulk on the place.
The zeroG shootout scene was pefect, and walking upside down. I love they use regular guns instead of phasers and lasers and all that.
My only hangup with the previous episode was the pressurized convex. not possible without insanely thick walls or reinforcement. Otherwise this show is great with space engineering and physics.
I haven't read past the third book so not reading the spoilers. Not sure it's worth conjecturing here, given others know exactly where this is all going, but I got to imagine that season 5 guessing based after ep 4: Mars (or rather the Martian military) has some much larger goals. No way are they just letting their civilization whither and some high ups are selling to the black market to just line their pockets. I'd suspect that giving Marcos Enaro stealth tech to coat the asteroids allows the Martian stealth fleet to go undetected, because Earth has realigned their stealth breaking satellites to look for more stealth asteroids instead of tracking Mars. The Martian Admiral even talked about the tactics of taking on the ring space, and talked about taking risks instead of holding back and calculating (also a swipe at Chrissy). I'm just not sure if their endgame is more than just taking over the ring space. Due they do that because they want to move all of Mars to a fully habitable planet on the other side of the gates? Do they also want to take control of Earth?
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My only hangup with the previous episode was the pressurized convex. not possible without insanely thick walls or reinforcement. Otherwise this show is great with space engineering and physics.
Super space plastics just throws suspension of disbelief out the
Just now watching the after show for season 5, and they have the show runner on and it's such a great insight into the organizational, behind the scenes aspects of the show and the operations of any show:
New episode is out!
israeliag said:
I haven't read past the third book so not reading the spoilers. Not sure it's worth conjecturing here, given others know exactly where this is all going, but I got to imagine that season 5 guessing based after ep 4: Mars (or rather the Martian military) has some much larger goals. No way are they just letting their civilization whither and some high ups are selling to the black market to just line their pockets. I'd suspect that giving Marcos Enaro stealth tech to coat the asteroids allows the Martian stealth fleet to go undetected, because Earth has realigned their stealth breaking satellites to look for more stealth asteroids instead of tracking Mars. The Martian Admiral even talked about the tactics of taking on the ring space, and talked about taking risks instead of holding back and calculating (also a swipe at Chrissy). I'm just not sure if their endgame is more than just taking over the ring space. Due they do that because they want to move all of Mars to a fully habitable planet on the other side of the gates? Do they also want to take control of Earth?
It's not really a spoiler (at least I wouldn't consider it one, it's just talking about how that scene is taken from the book), I just know some people have a problem with book discussion in tv show threads, so I wanted to tag it.
Cool! Thanks for looking out. I know the book authors are part of the show's writers room, and there's some great creativity in there.
Crazy to think that we are halfway through the season and the crew is still in different places of the solar system. It was a good episode but I think this suffers from the very good/excellent episode that preceded it. I kind of wanted the plot to move forward faster. I haven't read the books but I'm waiting to see when and who gets to Marco first.
jabberwalkie09 said:
Crazy to think that we are halfway through the season and the crew is still in different places of the solar system. It was a good episode but I think this suffers from the very good/excellent episode that preceded it. I kind of wanted the plot to move forward faster. I haven't read the books but I'm waiting to see when and who gets to Marco first.
I really liked that episode, especially getting a better understanding of Naomi. She used to be my least favorite character, but she's growing on me as she discovers and gains confidence in her identity. Same with drummer.
The only character I've never liked is Holden. Maybe it's just the actor playing him.
I'm curious to see where the Peaches / Amos story goes.
"Hey Tiny."
Amos is such a badass.
Amos is such a badass.
Really enjoyed this episode. Especially watching as Naomi puts together the Roci Reactor sabotage. Very cool.
I agree it's kind of weird having the crew scattered, I remember thinking that in the book. However, it's really cool to see how they grow/interact on their own or in different groups.
I wonder where Bobbie and Alex's storyline will go now? In the books they manage to evade the torpedoes long enough to meet up with the Martian PM's fleet near Luna, and they have to make another escape with the PM and the Razorback once the Free Navy shows up. Small change but I do wonder how/if they'll be the ones to rescue Naomi still?
"You can't take the Razorback. We are gone and gone and gone."
I agree it's kind of weird having the crew scattered, I remember thinking that in the book. However, it's really cool to see how they grow/interact on their own or in different groups.
I wonder where Bobbie and Alex's storyline will go now? In the books they manage to evade the torpedoes long enough to meet up with the Martian PM's fleet near Luna, and they have to make another escape with the PM and the Razorback once the Free Navy shows up. Small change but I do wonder how/if they'll be the ones to rescue Naomi still?
"You can't take the Razorback. We are gone and gone and gone."
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I really liked that episode, especially getting a better understanding of Naomi. She used to be my least favorite character, but she's growing on me as she discovers and gains confidence in her identity. Same with drummer.
Her punishment for saving the protomolecule is that Marcos will take control of it. But her guilt goes back to when she was first with Inaros. Her development is one of my favorite in the books, I hope they keep following it in the show. Book spoilerI really hope we see her escape same as the book, that's a very very good scene for the development of herself, Marco, Filip, and Cyn.
Also it's probably just the Holden character you don't like, the actor has him nailed pretty good. He's just a boy scout in the middle of a fubar universe in both the book and the show.
Also I remember the drive core virus being a much bigger deal in the book, did they streamline it here in the show?
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Yeah they seemed to fix that issue pretty quick. the show didnt drag out that tension very long once they dropped the nugget that it had happened. i almost forgot about it despite having read the books. seemed like as a reader you knew that code had been uploaded into the Roci for a bit before they tried to fire up their reactor, so there was that lingering fear but its been a couple years since i read that book.
but i will say, ******* this season has been great. the visuals and especially the character development have been top notch. i think the lack of focus on the protomolecule, just like in the books, really steers the story in a more human direction, which is so great. especially Amos' line at the end of the most recent episode. "yeah Holden wouldnt have liked that....i need to get back to my crew" was such a great acknowledgement of Holden being his moral compass. which, to that, this season is the first time i have really felt Steven Strait IS Holden. i always had a little misgivings about the actor in how he just "didnt feel right". but i think ive finally come around.
also, i have thus far been a fan of the changes they have made from the books, from the combining of Drummer/Michio pa, to fred johnson's death, i feel like the changes they have made have actually benefited the story but havent completely hurt future storylines (looking at you, GoT)
but i will say, ******* this season has been great. the visuals and especially the character development have been top notch. i think the lack of focus on the protomolecule, just like in the books, really steers the story in a more human direction, which is so great. especially Amos' line at the end of the most recent episode. "yeah Holden wouldnt have liked that....i need to get back to my crew" was such a great acknowledgement of Holden being his moral compass. which, to that, this season is the first time i have really felt Steven Strait IS Holden. i always had a little misgivings about the actor in how he just "didnt feel right". but i think ive finally come around.
also, i have thus far been a fan of the changes they have made from the books, from the combining of Drummer/Michio pa, to fred johnson's death, i feel like the changes they have made have actually benefited the story but havent completely hurt future storylines (looking at you, GoT)
I'm cracking up at how much they like saying "f*ck* now that they are on Amazon
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