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*** The Expanse- Season 5 (Amazon Prime)***

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I'm glad Peaches' poem made it into the show, as it's her mantra I hope it sticks around.
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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:



especially Amos' line at the end of the most recent episode. "yeah Holden wouldnt have liked that....i need to get back to my crew" was such a great acknowledgement of Holden being his moral compass.


I had the exact same thought. This show has gotten me more involved and empathetic with it's characters than maybe any other. And I think splitting up the crew/family the way they have this season has made that so much more clear.
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I would like to stick my peen inside Drummer.
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BenFiasco14 said:

I would like to stick my peen inside Drummer.


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Sex Panther said:

BenFiasco14 said:

I would like to stick my peen inside Drummer.



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For some strange reason i prefer the reporter, but drummer can join in.
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Absolutely loving this season. Only thing I am disliking is having to wait for next week to watch the next episode.
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FIDO95 said:

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FIDO95 said:


Absolutely loving this season. Only thing I am disliking is having to wait for next week to watch the next episode.
Seriously, the only negative thing i can think of. that said, it does make me savor each episode afterwards, so i am appreciative of that. whereas normally i would be binging 3-4 episodes at a time.
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If more people were watching it, it would be good for conversation also. I wouldn't be able to share theories like some of the really good threads that have been on this board because I've read the books though.

I'm absolutely loving this season, I can't believe more people aren't watching this show. The only other recent sci-fi show that I think is in the same ballpark of as good is Dark.
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I am enjoying watching it. Amos is my favorite character. I want to read the other books that are out but I am finding Sanderson's Rhythm of War a hard read.
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I think there are a lot of people watching it but don't comment because they have read the books. For the majority of this it's doing a good job following the major arcs. I would comment more but it would really just be spoilers and I think that maybe the case for others.
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dromo07 said:

I think there are a lot of people watching it but don't comment because they have read the books. For the majority of this it's doing a good job following the major arcs. I would comment more but it would really just be spoilers and I think that maybe the case for others.
That's me. I am on book 7, and have read all of the "filler" novels. Definitely like Book 5 the best for the reasons the author gives in the podcast earlier in the thread.
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Amos's moral compass and realizing Holden wouldn't have approved of him murdering a guy for supplies made me laugh for some reason.
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dromo07 said:

I think there are a lot of people watching it but don't comment because they have read the books. For the majority of this it's doing a good job following the major arcs. I would comment more but it would really just be spoilers and I think that maybe the case for others.


I agree. Read all the major books (haven't read the fillers/novellas) so my questions and comments could easily be spoiler without intending to be, so I tend to stay away. That said I got several people I work either watching and/or reading the books. Everyone that I've gotten to watch has enjoyed the hell out of it. Although, a fair amount of people like a couple of my friends, are waiting for all the episodes to drop before binging them all. I'm just too damn impatient.

Also, put me down for Team Monica. Something about her is super fine to me. Drummer ain't bad though (crazy how different her voice is when doing those interviews)
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Quote:

Also, put me down for Team Monica.
She was good in Defiance. On Amazon Prime.
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Monica is a hottie

https://instagr.am/p/CInkaG4jloE
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I really enjoyed the way they translated Naomi's arc in episode 8. I didn't think they would do the final scene at first because that had to be expensive. Glad to see they did. The actor playing Marco nails the egotism of the character in the book.
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Maveric said:

I really enjoyed the way they translated Naomi's arc in episode 8. I didn't think they would do the final scene at first because that had to be expensive. Glad to see they did. The actor playing Marco nails the egotism of the character in the book.

That's one of my favorite scenes from the books, Inaros' crew all treat her like the fragile unstable girl when she left them. None of them see the woman she became after joining the Rocinante and realize how cunning and capable she is. I'm super glad they included the exit stage vaccum scene.
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hunter2012 said:

Maveric said:

I really enjoyed the way they translated Naomi's arc in episode 8. I didn't think they would do the final scene at first because that had to be expensive. Glad to see they did. The actor playing Marco nails the egotism of the character in the book.

That's one of my favorite scenes from the books, Inaros' crew all treat her like the fragile unstable girl when she left them. None of them see the woman she became after joining the Rocinante and realize how cunning and capable she is. I'm super glad they included the exit stage vaccum scene.


Me too. I hope they have some exposition next episode along the lines of Holden or someone going, "You did what? How the hell is that even possible? What does that even do to a person?" The book kind of gives that info to you during the scene when it's happening, but you don't really start to realize what's going on with her until she gets in the airlock on the other ship.
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Great episode. The airlock vacuum scene was pretty legit. Wondering if the airlock can act as a hyperbaric chamber.

The Rocinante spinning guns torpedo blaster move was the highlight.
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Did I miss something? Did Naomi just Leia Poppins through space, land exactly where she needed to, and somehow get inside another space ship... and lived???

I've always read that this show is extremely accurate with the science and physics, so I guess someone is going to have to explain to me how that wasn't absolutely ridiculous
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The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
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dromo07 said:

The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
They showed it in a previous episode this season when they rescued Monica from the shipping container. I think they said it was hyperoxygenated blood or something like that.
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OCEN99 said:

dromo07 said:

The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
They showed it in a previous episode this season when they rescued Monica from the shipping container. I think they said it was hyperoxygenated blood or something like that.
Correct. I think the general idea is 15 seconds in a vacuum without oxygen before passing out, so the hyperoxygenated blood would buy her a little bit of extra time. It's also not like she was having to spin and search out for the airlock for the other ship. The two had been connected recently by that walk way, so it was a straight shot for her from one airlock to the next.

Is it a bit of a stretch? Sure. But it's not impossible, and I sincerely doubt they'll have Naomi back up to 100% normal at the beginning of the next episode. She'll be in bad shape.
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OCEN99 said:

dromo07 said:

The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
They showed it in a previous episode this season when they rescued Monica from the shipping container. I think they said it was hyperoxygenated blood or something like that.
Yep and this might be the exposition that Champ Bailey wanted. I have a feeling it would be easier to catch when binge watching since that episode was a month ago now. The book explains that it gives the taker a few more seconds of blood, like a breath of fresh air. Here's a solid explaination about the scene.

Also, I'm surprised how little pity I felt for Cyn. I guess the show made it clear that while he's a good guy, he's still complicit or accomplice to all of the Free Navy murders and attacks. Specifically targeting the Roci with Naomi's computer virus. Though in the book I think he dies believing that Naomi is still suicidal while the show gives him the spark realization before she spaces them.
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hunter2012 said:


Also, I'm surprised how little pity I felt for Cyn. I guess the show made it clear that while he's a good guy, he's still complicit or accomplice to all of the Free Navy murders and attacks. Specifically targeting the Roci with Naomi's computer virus. Though in the book I think he dies believing that Naomi is still suicidal while the show gives him the spark realization before she spaces them.
I thought the same thing. In fact up until that point I had really liked Cyn and felt bad he was going to get spaced, and then when he admitted that to Naomi, I was like, "this just got a lot easier". I do think the books did a better job in that moment, particularly where she hesitates and he tells her to be strong for Fillip, and that's what actually ends up making her go through with it.
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OCEN99 said:

dromo07 said:

The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
They showed it in a previous episode this season when they rescued Monica from the shipping container. I think they said it was hyperoxygenated blood or something like that.
The other background knowledge that you have if you are/were a book reader is that Belters are experts at movement in zero g. Since they have spent their whole life moving in space, they are very good and pushing off and timing movements. Makes the whole thing TOTALLY realistic... putting aside the fact that blood and the air in your lungs would almost instantaneously freeze/crystalize in the subzero temperatures in space of course.

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Theoretically, you wouldn't lose heat that quickly in space. You could only lose it via radiation - you can't have conduction or convection in a vacuum.
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MGS said:

Theoretically, you wouldn't lose heat that quickly in space. You could only lose it via radiation - you can't have conduction or convection in a vacuum.
Space is flipping weird.
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MGS said:

Theoretically, you wouldn't lose heat that quickly in space. You could only lose it via radiation - you can't have conduction or convection in a vacuum.


Yeah, I thought they actually have problems with heat build-up and trying to figure out how to disperse it when you don't have power in space.

But the biggest issue if you tried jumping without a suit in space is the unshielded radiation from millions of stars hitting you at once. That and making sure the vacuum doesn't immediately turn your lungs inside out.
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MGS said:

Theoretically, you wouldn't lose heat that quickly in space. You could only lose it via radiation - you can't have conduction or convection in a vacuum.


That is 200IQ stuff right there. Amazing how much you don't know!?! My curiosity got me on google... please don't do that for medical questions.. and I found this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.space.com/amp/30066-what-happens-to-unprotected-body-in-outer-space.html

Great discussion about what would happen.

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PDWT_12 said:

hunter2012 said:


Also, I'm surprised how little pity I felt for Cyn. I guess the show made it clear that while he's a good guy, he's still complicit or accomplice to all of the Free Navy murders and attacks. Specifically targeting the Roci with Naomi's computer virus. Though in the book I think he dies believing that Naomi is still suicidal while the show gives him the spark realization before she spaces them.
I thought the same thing. In fact up until that point I had really liked Cyn and felt bad he was going to get spaced, and then when he admitted that to Naomi, I was like, "this just got a lot easier". I do think the books did a better job in that moment, particularly where she hesitates and he tells her to be strong for Fillip, and that's what actually ends up making her go through with it.


It sorta felt like he could have saved himself from a timing perspective, and given the conversation he had with Naomi earlier and the amount of guilt he seemed to have for hiding Philip, it came across to me like he decided to end his life then and there. Either way, beautiful script writing having the two of them replay such a pivotal moment of their lives.
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PDWT_12 said:

OCEN99 said:

dromo07 said:

The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
They showed it in a previous episode this season when they rescued Monica from the shipping container. I think they said it was hyperoxygenated blood or something like that.
Correct. I think the general idea is 15 seconds in a vacuum without oxygen before passing out, so the hyperoxygenated blood would buy her a little bit of extra time. It's also not like she was having to spin and search out for the airlock for the other ship. The two had been connected recently by that walk way, so it was a straight shot for her from one airlock to the next.

Is it a bit of a stretch? Sure. But it's not impossible, and I sincerely doubt they'll have Naomi back up to 100% normal at the beginning of the next episode. She'll be in bad shape.


Okay, I can buy that I guess. But what about the temperature change? She would've froze to death. That whole scene was just dumb.
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BenFiasco14 said:

PDWT_12 said:

OCEN99 said:

dromo07 said:

The flight in space is legit. She stuck her self with something but I can't remember what. They go into more detail in the book
They showed it in a previous episode this season when they rescued Monica from the shipping container. I think they said it was hyperoxygenated blood or something like that.
Correct. I think the general idea is 15 seconds in a vacuum without oxygen before passing out, so the hyperoxygenated blood would buy her a little bit of extra time. It's also not like she was having to spin and search out for the airlock for the other ship. The two had been connected recently by that walk way, so it was a straight shot for her from one airlock to the next.

Is it a bit of a stretch? Sure. But it's not impossible, and I sincerely doubt they'll have Naomi back up to 100% normal at the beginning of the next episode. She'll be in bad shape.


Okay, I can buy that I guess. But what about the temperature change? She would've froze to death. That whole scene was just dumb.
The link above explains that while you would lose heat via radiation anyway over several minutes, since there's nothing to conduct heat you wouldn't freeze to death. There's nowhere for your heat to transfer to vs say a jump into the Artic ocean. If anything Ashford's death in he previous season was the unscientific one. It sounds like the real danger is if you took a big breath beforehand the vacuum would rupture you lungs before the lack of oxygen forced you to blackout. They used depressurizing deep divers as an example.
 
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