LisaMarie said:

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So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

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If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

I think if they alternate Male/Female eliminations, then there will be a balance of sorts. Might lead to people wanting to throw themselves into eliminations to upgrade their partner. Or that might be what the producers had in mind.

Side note: Aneesa and Tori are doing recap podcasts this season and it's fascinating getting some behind the scenes stories. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mtvs-official-challenge-podcast/id1541034575?i=1000501935268

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/12/10/22166558/the-challenge-double-agents-premiere-recap-ct-ashley-wes

The twist is great. Suck it, 250lb Aneesa.

They had extra cameras for the first challenge and it paid off. They had like 3 angles of the shoe in wes face including crystal clear super slow-mo. Just stunningly beautiful TV.

If I were Natalie, I'd stay with Wes over CT, but if she picks CT, insert gif of CT throwing the shoe in Wes face.

I like Kam, but can see why some don't. The thing is, CT played that poorly, IMO. If he had someone he wanted, he should have gone and grabbed her. But he seemingly didn't have a plan. Kam would have been a strong partner and brought leeroy, but telling her no like that created an immediate enemy and Ashley is pure trash who stole $500k from hunter.

This would be a great non pandemic cast. There are a lot of singles, bad choice makers, and drinkers. Alas. I think they are locked down.

David_Puddy said:

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LisaMarie said:

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So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

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If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

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I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

CT won like 2 seasons ago. But I don't really disagree with you.

expresswrittenconsent said:

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The twist is great. Suck it, 250lb Aneesa.

They had extra cameras for the first challenge and it paid off. They had like 3 angles of the shoe in wes face including crystal clear super slow-mo. Just stunningly beautiful TV.

If I were Natalie, I'd stay with Wes over CT, but if she picks CT, insert gif of CT throwing the shoe in Wes face.

I like Kam, but can see why some don't. The thing is, CT played that poorly, IMO. If he had someone he wanted, he should have gone and grabbed her. But he seemingly didn't have a plan. Kam would have been a strong partner and brought leeroy, but telling her no like that created an immediate enemy and Ashley is pure trash who stole $500k from hunter.

This would be a great non pandemic cast. There are a lot of singles, bad choice makers, and drinkers. Alas. I think they are locked down.

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They may be locked down, but they did put a bar on site so they can have nights to get drunk, blow off steam, scheme, and make questionable decisions.

expresswrittenconsent said:

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CT won like 2 seasons ago. But I don't really disagree with you.

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True, but I think that was when he won as a team with 3 other people? He had a lot of help. Im not sure he can win by himself or with 1 other person. Also, given how long CT has been doing these, its crazy that he doesnt have any true alliances. He basically just skates by and plays nice with everyone. I think Rogan was his only true friend/alliance, speaking of I miss Rogan on this season!

Yeah, it was the one where it was usa vs world and then ct and Jordan and tori flipped to the world side and ct/Jordan 2 others won. He sat back while bigger names like bananas were targets and coasted to the final. He never seemed in great shape. It does seem like his lack of allies hurt him here (although he's not out yet - was that edit of him looking extra desperate and pathetic because he goes home ep2 again or a psych out and he really stays a while).

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Yeah, it was the one where it was usa vs world and then ct and Jordan and tori flipped to the world side and ct/Jordan 2 others won. He sat back while bigger names like bananas were targets and coasted to the final. He never seemed in great shape. It does seem like his lack of allies hurt him here (although he's not out yet - was that edit of him looking extra desperate and pathetic because he goes home ep2 again or a psych out and he really stays a while).

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Yea the highlights they showed of the season confused me because it showed both CT and Wes. Im wondering if challengers who are eliminated can work their way back in somehow like theyve done on past seasons?

I could see a 'redemption house' in a lockdown, it would be easier than normal to pull off. But I don't think we have that here. I think Natalie picks to stay with Wes and that leaves CT with no partner for the next task. We don't know what that means yet.
Does it mean CT is automatically in the next mens elimination? With skulls being a limited commodity, I kind of doubt this happens.
Does it mean a reshuffle/repairing before the next challenge? Are there any girls right now who would want to drop their guy for CT?

Also, is Natalie now in a power position? She seems like the new Jenny (beast female) and now has a skull. Do any of those girls want to try and take her skull rather than beat some weak rookie? She might coast to the end even if she currently has a jackwad like wes for a partner.

LHIOB said:

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CT: Why?

Kam: Killa Kam!

CT: **literally hops away**

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Lol that was... awkward.

Im surprised CT didnt go for Kam. She's a solid competitor and always does well in eliminations, plus the Leroy alliance. Personally I find her annoying and cant stand her, but she is good at challenges.

I know CT won a final with Ashley, but I dont think it was a smart move by him to choose her. She is a huge liability, always gets in fights with others, and is a mess in general. She hasnt done well in the last few challenges, her head seems to be elsewhere after winning those 2 challenges. Its like she doesn't try as hard anymore and cares more about the drama with others than actually winning.

expresswrittenconsent said:

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Are there any girls right now who would want to drop their guy for CT

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This is what I think might happen...at that moment, someone safe has to want to take the leftover single player (in this case CT) and ditch their current partner . If no one picks him, he goes home. If someone picks him, their old partner goes home instead. What do yall think?

I thought Kam and CT would have been a great team, so I was disappointed that he went with Ashley. Hopefully he ends up with someone good.

I know the Real Worlders are outnumbered at this point, but I don't get why the MTV players don't team up against the non-MTV players. Seems like they would have figured out that was a good strategy to protect each other in the game by this point, but they still try to use rookies to their advantage.

I believe there are 19 episodes and 30 players and 10 skulls so I think we see 1 person leave per episode (barring random fight elections or double evictions) until a 1 or 2 part finale.
So I think CT sticks around but I can't figure out how.

Now that the next Elim is male, I figure that big group will try and put wes vs ct again unless the vets can pull some serious strategery.

I think who ever doesnt have a partner will stay until the next same sex elimination. Cant send someone home without a chance to save themselves.

LHIOB said:

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Cant send someone home without a chance to save themselves.

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Sounds like some sort of redemption house possibility

I love Wes, Kaycee, and Lolo. But, (correct me if I'm wrong), didn't Lolo get emotional and fly off the handle during Champs vs Pros? And people stayed away from her? She's definitely an alpha.
Gonna be a good season.

ea1060 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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LisaMarie said:

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So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

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If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

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I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

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I disagree and I think CT will make some noise this year and I'm betting he's in the final. There's a major difference between dad bod CT & current CT.

David_Puddy said:

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ea1060 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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LisaMarie said:

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So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

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If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

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I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

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I disagree and I think CT will make some noise this year and I'm betting he's in the final. There's a major difference between dad bod CT & current CT.

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CT is 40 years old, has no alliances in the house, and was voted into elimination on the first episode. Lol are you sure you want to bet that he makes the final? I'll take that bet anyday.

ea1060 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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ea1060 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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LisaMarie said:

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So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

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If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

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I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

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I disagree and I think CT will make some noise this year and I'm betting he's in the final. There's a major difference between dad bod CT & current CT.

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CT is 40 years old, has no alliances in the house, and was voted into elimination on the first episode. Lol are you sure you want to bet that he makes the final? I'll take that bet anyday.

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Lack of alliances may not matter as much as the fact that he doesn't have outright enemies like wes. But the bigger thing is the new rule. If CT ends up winning a skull tomorrow (big if), he's gonna skate until there are no more skulls left because when there are still skulls available the guys are gonna want to try and beat a Josh or Jay or other rookie guy over going against CT.

ea1060 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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ea1060 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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LisaMarie said:

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So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

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If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

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I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

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I disagree and I think CT will make some noise this year and I'm betting he's in the final. There's a major difference between dad bod CT & current CT.

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CT is 40 years old, has no alliances in the house, and was voted into elimination on the first episode. Lol are you sure you want to bet that he makes the final? I'll take that bet anyday.

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I mean what is the bet you are proposing? CT is a different animal that a whole lot of those guys outside of probably Fessy.

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Great episode! I cant believe Fessi didnt throw himself into the elimination, what was he thinking! Everyone knew exactly what that elimination was going to be by looking at it, and Joseph would have been one of the easier challengers to face. I think Fessi is going to regret that one, he is over thinking his strategy. I cant wait until Fessi switches partners because Aneesa does not deserve to coast to the final.

Kyle is definitely underrated in the game. You can always count on him to do well in eliminations, and either make the final, or get close. He needs to work on his political/social game because no one trusts him, but he is definitely a strong competitor.

Aneesa needs a Skull. She cant just skate to the final.

TajMaballer said:

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The editing of the Nicole/Devin scene had me in tears.

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LOL me too! I was cracking up the entire time. I didnt like Devin when he first started coming on the challenges, but hes grown on me. I wish Bananas was on this season so we could see their rivalry continued. I wonder if they would have made up and worked together with Wes, since it seems like the Cory/Nelson/Fessi alliance is running the game this season.

ea1060 said:

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Kyle is definitely underrated in the game. You can always count on him to do well in eliminations, and either make the final, or get close. He needs to work on his political/social game because no one trusts him, but he is definitely a strong competitor.

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Kyle's commentary in his talking heads is always hilarious too

Kyle is one of my favorites. Hes a poor mans Kenny but British.