pdc093 said:

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I meant the DIVING challenge.
Dude INSTANTLY wusses out, citing some "When I was a kid...." Reason WHY.
They know they're going to be facing stuff like that.
And isn't Darrel older than Cory? He's CLEARLY heavier than Cory.

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Darrell is also one of the all time great challenge champions. I dont think hes ever lost a challenge/final before until this season.

Kyle is toast next episode....Nany totally f-ed him. Nany played this beautifully......she gets to run the final with CT.

Yup, played out perfectly for CT. Got the redemption with Big T, but gets a new partner to run the final. Nany doesn't pick him so he's locked in.

Quinn said:

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Yup, played out perfectly for CT. Got the redemption with Big T, but gets a new partner to run the final. Nany doesn't pick him so he's locked in.

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This is one of the 2 biggest fails from production this time around. Being a rouge agent has no negatives really and a few positives. Also, they should tell them guys or girls day. The strategy and plays would have been much better. They were all scared of making a move because they didn't know who was going down to elimination.

Does this show air originally on MTV? I saw something called The Challenge: All Star coming soon. Same thing?

It's a different show airing on paramount +

Essentially its a different season of the same show. This time they cast a bunch of former competitors from the early seasons of the show and a few from more recent seasons. It is currently exclusively available on Paramount+. The current season (Double Agents) airs first on MTV and I assume can be streamed on Paramount+ the next day.

Weirdly, Double Agents (s36) isn't on paramount. The most recent season on paramount is s33 from 2019.

expresswrittenconsent said:

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Weirdly, Double Agents (s36) isn't on paramount. The most recent season on paramount is s33 from 2019.

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That sounds par for the course for Viacom. They have resisted having proper streaming options for their properties since day 1. They still view themselves as a cable channel operator first, content owner second.

I assume the most recent seasons have some existing streaming rights elsewhere that need to expire.
The app also seems like the only one of the big streamers that doesn't have basic stuff like watchlist/my shows.

Big Brother is the worst.

Methinks next season you'll see a Challenge vs Big Brother from the players after how well and how far this big brother group has made it.

That could be interesting, though I don't want them to add that many Big Brother people to the cast. The MTV people should add least recognize that they need to join together to fight against that alliance.

I dont like Fessi at all but damn he absolutely rocked Kyle in that Hall Brawl. Kyle didnt stand a chance. Messed up for Kam and Leroy to go back on their promise to Kyle, but Kyle has been a snake all season and cant be trusted. I dont blame them for what they did.

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I dont like Fessi at all but damn he absolutely rocked Kyle in that Hall Brawl. Kyle didnt stand a chance. Messed up for Kam and Leroy to go back on their promise to Kyle, but Kyle has been a snake all season and cant be trusted. I dont blame them for what they did.

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Kyle can be dangerous in the final. No one on the show mentions that he placed second in the final last season ahead of Cory and Fessy. I hate that they didnt honor the agreement with Kyle as he is my favorite, but upon seeing how the votes fell Kam realized she didnt need that deal at all. Kam saw it was a hall brawl and knew there was zero chance Fessy was going to lose and I assume she figured she had a better chance winning it all with Cory than butting heads with CT in the final or making a single team with Leroy.

Every single move last night, including decisions/thought process by the contestants felt like it was created by production to get us these teams in this final. I don't know why.

Yeah, once Fessy volunteered himself, that took the deal off the table in my book. Kyle didn't do anything for them, but still wanted credit as if he did. I like Kyle and enjoy him on the show, but he can be a bit whiny at times.

I was a few margaritas deep while watching last night so my brain wasn't functioning 100% lol. But they made it sound like a lock that if Corey voted for someone else, and Kam voted themselves in, that Kam and Corey would automatically go into the elimination. Is that how it works if they split the votes? I thought that there would be a stale mate of some sorts and they'd have to keep voting until they both agreed 100%? Maybe someone can educate me on this.

Also, Kyle had some all time best quotes last night. "Fessi thinks he's a super hero, he's not, he's a super ******bag." That one and another thing he said had me rolling lol.

ea1060 said:

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I was a few margaritas deep while watching last night so my brain wasn't functioning 100% lol. But they made it sound like a lock that if Corey voted for someone else, and Kam voted themselves in, that Kam and Corey would automatically go into the elimination. Is that how it works if they split the votes? I thought that there would be a stale mate of some sorts and they'd have to keep voting until they both agreed 100%? Maybe someone can educate me on this.

Also, Kyle had some all time best quotes last night. "Fessi thinks he's a super hero, he's not, he's a super ******bag." That one and another thing he said had me rolling lol.

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The players talked like it was guaranteed, but it was never told to the audience what would happen if the power couple split their vote (on themselves or against other players). Not totally clear to us, but might have been explained to the players off screen.

Either explained off-screen or there never was a plan to do that and they added those scenes on the couch + the diary room sessions to build fake drama.

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ea1060 said:

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I was a few margaritas deep while watching last night so my brain wasn't functioning 100% lol. But they made it sound like a lock that if Corey voted for someone else, and Kam voted themselves in, that Kam and Corey would automatically go into the elimination. Is that how it works if they split the votes? I thought that there would be a stale mate of some sorts and they'd have to keep voting until they both agreed 100%? Maybe someone can educate me on this.

Also, Kyle had some all time best quotes last night. "Fessi thinks he's a super hero, he's not, he's a super ******bag." That one and another thing he said had me rolling lol.

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The players talked like it was guaranteed, but it was never told to the audience what would happen if the power couple split their vote (on themselves or against other players). Not totally clear to us, but might have been explained to the players off screen.

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It is a little shocking how we didnt have split votes a single time from the power couple. Perhaps it was explained that if you split your vote then you go in. That could explain why Gabby was quick to vote with Devin even though helping Devin out hurt her game in that moment.

I like him in the show, but he definitely whines when he gets crossed on a deal despite being the biggest snake in the house

I just mean the people already doing the show. Like take this exact same cast and next season the Challenge folks will team up to get rid of Big Brother.

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I dont like Fessi at all but damn he absolutely rocked Kyle in that Hall Brawl. Kyle didnt stand a chance. Messed up for Kam and Leroy to go back on their promise to Kyle, but Kyle has been a snake all season and cant be trusted. I dont blame them for what they did.

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If Kam was awake when Leroy made that deal, I'm pretty sure she would have squashed it.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Either explained off-screen or there never was a plan to do that and they added those scenes on the couch + the diary room sessions to build fake drama.

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Sort of like a big brother episode.

Yep it's pretty similar. Only thing is we can't see what was real and what wasn't on the challenge.

Finals Part 1 week. I kind of assume that the partners they have stay for the finals but they haven't confirmed that. Any chance they have some sort of competition to re-partner everyone?

I also assume everyone is rooting against Fessy. I didn't like him on BB and he is worse on the challenge.

I hate Fessy. He thinks he's the cat's ass but he's just a big idiot.

Kyle being pissed at Nany was hilarious.

Anyone watching All Stars, or do we need a separate thread??

I kind of hope they compete individually with CT winning. Actually, as long as anybody else wins but Fessy.

Waiting for this season to end then hopping on all stars. And I'd say let's do a fresh thread.

Haven't started All Stars, but plan to watch it. I agree with Bunk on starting a new thread.

Really impress with Amber so far. CT is an animal.

Fessy is the ultimate POS. Not surprised CT and Amber B are doing so well so early. Was surprised at her ability to win the memory challenge over the others. As long as there isn't a future individual math challenge where she doesn't have CT's help, they're in solid shape.

With Fessy & Kaycee out, CT & Amber will win in a landslide. And I remember when I said CT had a shot to win and was called out earlier in the thread

David_Puddy said:

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With Fessy & Kaycee out, CT & Amber will win in a landslide. And I remember when I said CT had a shot to win and was called out earlier in the thread

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Lol I'll eat crow and say I was wrong. But you gotta admit he got super lucky when Kaycee got injured.

Damn I hate Fessi. Anyone else would've been right there eating along with his partner even with zero chance of winning. But he has to pout and act like a baby. Tough break for him but couldn't have happened to a more deserving person than him.