I don't know why he keeps getting invited back onto the show. He's so terrible.

Cuz he's a clown good for some drama

David_Puddy said:

---

ea1060 said:

---

David_Puddy said:

---

ea1060 said:

---

David_Puddy said:

---

LisaMarie said:

---

So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

---

If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

---

I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

---

I disagree and I think CT will make some noise this year and I'm betting he's in the final. There's a major difference between dad bod CT & current CT.

---

CT is 40 years old, has no alliances in the house, and was voted into elimination on the first episode. Lol are you sure you want to bet that he makes the final? I'll take that bet anyday.

---

Well well well.......there's ol boss man CT just hanging around. He's going to end up stealing some weak f'er like Josh's skull here soon. Or maybe Kyle's. Still rolling with him being in the final

---

CT will definitely be in the final. Y'all keep talking about Dad Bod CT, but really it was all mental for him. He could have the same body this season and still be in the same spot.

LisaMarie said:

---

Cuz he's a clown good for some drama

---

I don't know what's more crazy - that this choad actually WON big brother, or the fact that when Josh was giving a confessional it said this was his 4th! Challenge.

expresswrittenconsent said:

---

LisaMarie said:

---

Cuz he's a clown good for some drama

---

I don't know what's more crazy - that this choad actually WON big brother, or the fact that when Josh was giving a confessional it said this was his 4th! Challenge.

---

I had no issue with him winning BB. He was a dumbass but he started using the good bye messages to campaign and that is why he won. The 1 good thing he did all season. He is terrible in both shows though.

I have never watched more than 5 min of an episode, but I have such little respect for Big Brother knowing that Josh won that show

Different show and different style. That said he basically won by default. Production brought back a recent fan favorite and he basically played celebrity God to a big portion of the house (including Josh) and production set it up for that guy to get his win after coming in 2nd on his first seaaon.

Ultimately it turned a lot of people off (somehow more than Josh's childish antics) and Josh won as a protest vote as he was up against that guy as the final 2.

Thanks for the insight! I've never watched an episode of big brother and don't get the appeal, personally

Bunk Moreland said:

---

Different show and different style. That said he basically won by default. Production brought back a recent fan favorite and he basically played celebrity God to a big portion of the house (including Josh) and production set it up for that guy to get his win after coming in 2nd on his first seaaon.

Ultimately it turned a lot of people off (somehow more than Josh's childish antics) and Josh basically won as a protest vote as he was up against that guy as the final 2.

---

Caycee had no business winning her season of BB either. She's the polar opposite of Josh in just about every way, so this may indicate a flaw in the way BB picks a winner.

Agree Tyler played the overall better game but Kaycee won 2 of the final 5 HOH's and 5 of the final 6 POV's. That was quite impressive. And when the winner is based off jury votes and not head2head competition, social game is much more important.

That said I do think they have a flaw the last 4-5 years but it's the rise of social media combined with casting HG's who are only trying to parlay it into some d level celeb career and more recently to pimp their own social media pages to peddle products as influencers. The show being live lets them try to adapt and create themselves to an audience in real-time.

Cast people who are there to play the game and I think it fixes a lot.

Yep. Casting people as stupid as Fessy is a much bigger problem than either Josh or Kaycee winning.
Did Fessy have the dumbest HOH week ever in the history of BB? It has to be top 3.

David_Puddy said:

---

ea1060 said:

---

David_Puddy said:

---

ea1060 said:

---

David_Puddy said:

---

LisaMarie said:

---

So what do we think is going to happen with Episode 1 spoiler: CT, and any future half of a losing pair? Does someone up top get a chance to snag him and ditch their own partner? Is he **** out of luck? Does he get a new partner?

---

If I were her, I'd be ditching Wes over him 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I imagine at some point (maybe even as soon as next episode), whenever Fessy doesn't win a challenge, that he will get snatched up pretty quickly.

---

I think CT's glory days are done. He hasnt done well in the last few challenges, and has been exposed in eliminations. He lost to Jay last season. While Wes might be a snake, I still like him and think hes one of the best challengers currently. I like his strategy of befriending the rookies early on, although it didnt really work for the first episode lol.

I liked Fessi his first season, but he seems a little too cocky this year. I think he still has to prove himself.

---

I disagree and I think CT will make some noise this year and I'm betting he's in the final. There's a major difference between dad bod CT & current CT.

---

CT is 40 years old, has no alliances in the house, and was voted into elimination on the first episode. Lol are you sure you want to bet that he makes the final? I'll take that bet anyday.

---

Well well well.......there's ol boss man CT just hanging around. He's going to end up stealing some weak f'er like Josh's skull here soon. Or maybe Kyle's. Still rolling with him being in the final

---

Haha lest we forget, CT was the first person voted in on the first episode. I think he weirdly kind of lucked out that he has Big T as a partner. She is well liked in the house and has the rookie alliance behind her. Lets see how he does in an elimination.

LisaMarie said:

---

I felt bad for CT and Big T knowing that she can't win over Kam but she did try. As a smaller girl myself I know it's gotta be hard to try and go against a dominating girl much larger than yourself.

---

I think CT acted like a little kid and a jerk throughout that whole scene. Yea it sucks that they had to compete again but its part of the game. Him whining about Big T not being able to beat Kam, in front of Big T, was really childish and mean to Big T. Im sure her feelings were hurt. Good on him for apologizing later, but hes been dogging on her all season behind her back to the cameras. Not cool on his part.

It was a dumb rule, seemingly made up on the fly that made no sense. Bad job by production on an otherwise cool task.

Hope this episode is better than last week.

All those rookie girls are really annoying. They shouldn't give them anymore screen time.

Toxic T was so unlikeable this season but damn I was rooting for her to win tonight. You could tell she wanted it so bad but Kaycee is Just such a beast. It was like watching Leroy kill Jay in that last elimination. When they're on like that no one can beat them.

I hope Theresa is back for future seasons because she has a lot of potential and she just stirs up the pot lol.

From the mid season preview after the episode, it looks like CT breaks away from Big T since she tells him he "broke his promise", then it looked like CT and I think Fessy get into it pretty good

Why are they all so dumb?

I understand why Devin didn't want to chance going down, but man, I can't understand why Gabby went along with it. Such a dumb move!

Quinn said:

---

I understand why Devin didn't want to chance going down, but man, I can't understand why Gabby went along with it. Such a dumb move!

---

Yea pretty dumb move on her part. The one and likely last chance to get a skull and she throws someone else in lol. But Amber B killed that elimination, surprised she did so well.

I really cant stand Lolo anymore. Ive never seen someone talk and hype themselves up so much, when they have done so little in the challenges. Nam is so patient with her, anyone else wouldve gone off on her.

'Killa Kam' really needs to quit flapping her gums about people. She says that Devin is playing a game of "revenge", and says that's not how you should "play this game". YET, she's been RAILING about exacting just THAT against others. I SO hope her and her man get sent home before the Final.
I'd love to see Devin, Kaycee, CT, and Fessy in the Final.

When you find yourself hating on America's favorite human, Leroy, it's probably time to look within.

Thanks for your input.

pdc093 said:

---

'Killa Kam' really needs to quit flapping her gums about people. She says that Devin is playing a game of "revenge", and says that's not how you should "play this game". YET, she's been RAILING about exacting just THAT against others. I SO hope her and her man get sent home before the Final.
I'd love to see Devin, Kaycee, CT, and Fessy in the Final.

---

I was thinking the same when she said that. She wanted CT gone in the beginning because he didn't pick her. Then she wanted Theresa gone because she put her in.

Kam just spouts whatever production asks her to for the sake of the episode. Her 1on1 sessions don't match her/Leroy's game play.

Yeah.
It totally escaped her notice that because of Theresa, she got her skull. THAT was lost on her. She immediately launched into the "You mess with Killa, Killa's comin' for you", smack. blah,blah,blah.

And I get Bunk's comment about her given 'script' (if you will), by production. It just isn't going over well with me this season.

ALL that being posted.
I'm LOVING this season....

This season kinda sucks to be honest. Other than Devin messing with Josh, and everyone sucking ass at flying drones, it hasn't been good.

Leroy vs Jay was a good elimination. The rest have been blah. All the girls eliminations have been bad.

Last year everyone was volunteering to go in and get there skull. This year everyone just thinks there will be plenty of chances and are passing them up.

Hey...so.. um said:

---

This season kinda sucks to be honest. Other than Devin messing with Josh, and everyone sucking ass at flying drones, it hasn't been good.

Leroy vs Jay was a good elimination. The rest have been blah. All the girls eliminations have been bad.

Last year everyone was volunteering to go in and get there skull. This year everyone just thinks there will be plenty of chances and are passing them up.

---

It's a quarantine cast missing the biggest male name and female name in the shows history (and several other big names). I think they've done a pretty good job but a lot of the new players that are non big bro and challenge vets flat suck this time. I'm OK with that swing and miss because so many of the previous new additions (bear/joss/rogan/turbo) have been fantastic.
I think Iceland has been beautiful and most of the challenges have been pretty cool to watch (honestly, the drone one was complete trash).

Loving the 80s themed soundtrack!..seems like all the songs on the show are from the 80s or covers of 80s songs...like the "Blue Monday" cover first episode and "Our Lips Are Sealed" cover about episode 3 or 4...

Hey...so.. um said:

---

This season kinda sucks to be honest. Other than Devin messing with Josh, and everyone sucking ass at flying drones, it hasn't been good.

Leroy vs Jay was a good elimination. The rest have been blah. All the girls eliminations have been bad.

Last year everyone was volunteering to go in and get there skull. This year everyone just thinks there will be plenty of chances and are passing them up.

---

Yea the first 4-5 episodes were awesome. Then it kind of went downhill after that. It's missing a Bananas or a Wes(eliminated too early) type of character. Would've been nice to have Bear in there too lol.

ea1060 said:

---

Hey...so.. um said:

---

This season kinda sucks to be honest. Other than Devin messing with Josh, and everyone sucking ass at flying drones, it hasn't been good.

Leroy vs Jay was a good elimination. The rest have been blah. All the girls eliminations have been bad.

Last year everyone was volunteering to go in and get there skull. This year everyone just thinks there will be plenty of chances and are passing them up.

---

Yea the first 4-5 episodes were awesome. Then it kind of went downhill after that. It's missing a Bananas or a Wes(eliminated too early) type of character. Would've been nice to have Bear in there too lol.

---

I want to see Nam vs fessy in an elimination but Nam is boring. LoLo is annoying. Other than Kaycee, there are no strong girls left. Josh got the easiest gold skull ever. I find myself fast forwarding too much bc the house stuff is boring. Also, has no one told Josh that the throwing water thing makes him look like a *****. He did it last year, he did it on BB. He is the worst person on TV.

Quote:

---

I find myself fast forwarding too much bc the house stuff is boring.

---

SO much this....
When the franchise first started (after Road Rules concluded), there was more focus on the actual challenges. But NOW, they seem to eat up so much time with the house drama; personal hook-ups and drunken brawls. It's the CHALLENGES that are the 'must watch tv' for me (anyway).

House drama, drinking and hooking up have been part of the franchise going back to when there wasn't even an elimination battle at the end of each episode, just a survivor style vote. Physical challenges matter WAY more over the last 5-10 challenges.

The house stuff is usually more entertaining with fights and hookups, but this season there hasnt been much of that going on.