I think height/size are reasonable things to say someone is miscast.

Both Uhtred and Cruise do seem to have the demeanor down very well though.

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Russell Crowe - Les Mis

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Add hugh Jackman.

Their singing was terrible...but because they are A list...

However Hathaway killed singing I dreamed a dream as Fantine. Tangential I hated Uma Thurman in the nonmusical version with liam Neeson and Geoffrey rush.

I would add Uma to the list of miscasts.

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Russell Crowe was an actor trying to sing, and was out of his depth yes.

Hugh Jackman performs on Broadway, and was not terrible.

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Everytime HJ sang the word "Javert" I wanted to ice pick my ears. I dont care if he is on Broadway or has a stack of Tony's, it was super cringe.

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There is basically one song he ever says that name, and it's like 3 times

1. Mickey Rooney as a Japanese landlord (with an insulting accent) in "Breakfast at Tiffanys". It's a wonderful movie, as long as you ignore the scenes with him.

2. Sylvester Stallone in "Cliffhanger". He's a short-ish muscle-bound dude while rock climbers are typically long, lean and wiry.

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John Malkovich.






In anything.

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Does that include "Being John Malkovich"?

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Especially. He's just an annoying and punchable actor.

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He was perfect in Con Air.

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Con Air is a perfect movie.

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Jk Rowling specifically asked for Alan Rickman for Snape. Hard to say the role was miscast when the person who created the character chooses the actor!

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These criticisms of Harry Potter movies casting coming out of the woodworks.

"You do NOT understand! His eye color was WRONG!!!"

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The HP page on reddit is full of ridiculous **** and theories like this all the time.

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Kevin James in Grownups.

But only cause it was meant to be Farley.

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Farley was also supposed to be Skrek. I think Myers was probably better for the part.

Three bad casting decision where the personality just didn't fit.

1) Ed Norton as Bruce Banner. Really? Ed is awesome when he is creepy and shifty. He is not convincing as a genius with anger issues.

2) Making Jon Lovitz a starring role in News Radio. I get that he and Phil were great friends, but this antics just did not mix well with the Jimmy James, Dave, Matthew, Beth and Joe. The show lasted only one season without Phil. Not only because Phil kind of brought the whole show together as sort of a beloved antagonist (or at least an instigator), but also because Lovitz brand of comedy just didn't fit with everyone else.

3) Finally, who in the hell thought it would be a good idea to cast Richard Pryor in a Superman film?

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I watched the Reacher movies before reading any of the books so I had no preconceived expectations. I get he's not what the novels describe physically but I thought Cruise played the roll well. I'm not sure what tall physical actor exists who could have matched the book. Blond and 6'-5" actors with that physical build aren't exactly lying around.

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All of these "they were miscast because they didn't look like that in the books" takes are bad.

Harry Potter's eye color.
Jack Reacher's height and hair color.
Uhtred's height and hair color from The Last Kingdom.

All 3 of those arevery minor. And don't make or break a show or movie by any means.

Miscast means "hey this actor/actress stunk on this role."

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no...miscast means, good actor...wrong role.

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100% that is the standard meaning of miscast.

I'll add McConaughey as Dirk Pitt in Sahara as a miscast role.

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1) Ed Norton........ He is not convincing as a genius with anger issues.

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I'd like to call Aaron Stampler/Roy to the stand as a counter argument.

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No. Not a genius. Not in the book sense sort of way. Not a brilliant scientist.

He is perfectly cast as Roy. Manipulative, creepy, patient, scheming. Banner is supposed to have a temper. Roy is the exact opposite of a guy that has a temper that is difficult to control. He almost got away with the murder without even getting caught in the beginning.

He is also not the kind of guy I would believe received a Nobel prize in atomic / DNA science, or the such.

Ed as Bruce Banner? Um, no.

Fantastic actor, wrong part.

Keanu Reeves in Dracula? Didn't see that one mentioned and first one I thought.

Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates
Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie
Robin Williams as a gay dad in The Birdcage

Just Kidding on the last one. Maybe one of the most perfectly cast movies ever.

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Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie

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I thought he was great as a juvenile thug in the 1980's "Bad Boys"

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Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie

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I thought he was great as a juvenile thug in the 1980's "Bad Boys"

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Yeah, he sort of pulled that off because he was the appropriate size for a teenager. He just kept that size the rest of his life.

Moreno still would have kicked his ass in real life.

Lily James was perfect for "Yesterday"

Everyonce cast in that Tim Burton Batman was mis-cast.

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Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates
Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie
Robin Williams as a gay dad in The Birdcage

Just Kidding on the last one. Maybe one of the most perfectly cast movies ever.

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You got me. Was about to go off.

One of the most rewatchable comedies, nay, movies, I've ever seen.

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Lily James was perfect for "Yesterday"

Everyonce cast in that Tim Burton Batman was mis-cast.

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Jack Nicholson as the Joker? I thought that one was pretty good. And Keaton was better than I expected.

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Loved Liv Tyler in LOTR.

Have a current one:

Angelina Jolie in Those Who Wish Me Dead

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Well played

Agree on Tyler in LOTR as well

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Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates
Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie
Robin Williams as a gay dad in The Birdcage

Just Kidding on the last one. Maybe one of the most perfectly cast movies ever.

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I thought he played that role well in Mystic River.

Also, You don't have to be a big guy to be a tough guy. There's a lot of crazy or violent people who are not large people. I know a few in real life.

But for cinematic purposes:
Al Pacino in Godfather and Scarface.
Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.

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Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates
Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie
Robin Williams as a gay dad in The Birdcage

Just Kidding on the last one. Maybe one of the most perfectly cast movies ever.

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I thought he played that role well in Mystic River.

Also, You don't have to be a big guy to be a tough guy. There's a lot of crazy or violent people who are not large people. I know a few in real life.

But for cinematic purposes:
Al Pacino in Godfather and Scarface.
Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.

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I don't know, I've always felt his brooding tough guy persona was contrived.

And it is not about size, otherwise it would be hard to cast anyone in Hollywood as a tough guy.

A lot of tough guy roles have been played by the first row:

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Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates
Sean Penn as a tough guy in any movie
Robin Williams as a gay dad in The Birdcage

Just Kidding on the last one. Maybe one of the most perfectly cast movies ever.

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I thought he played that role well in Mystic River.

Also, You don't have to be a big guy to be a tough guy. There's a lot of crazy or violent people who are not large people. I know a few in real life.

But for cinematic purposes:
Al Pacino in Godfather and Scarface.
Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.

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I don't know, I've always felt his brooding tough guy persona was contrived.

And it is not about size, otherwise it would be hard to cast anyone in Hollywood as a tough guy.

A lot of tough guy roles have been played by the first row:

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So many questions

Josh Hutchinson and Tom Cruise are the same height?

Who is next to the Rock, opposite Vince V?

Who are the two between Williams and Stiller?

Armie Hammer is next to the Rock. Robert Downey Jr and Javier Bardem is between Stiller and Williams.

Andie MacDowell in Four Weddings and a Funeral

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Andie MacDowell in Four Weddings and a Funeral

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Best opening scene ever!

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The Duke as Ghengis Khan is a good call.

I'd also like to submit Alan Alda as Hawkeye Pierce. Donald Sutherland was great in the movie role. Alda became this unlikeable know it all who always has to be right it seemed. It may be an unpopular opinion, but it's mine.

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You may not have liked what the character became 8 years into the role but that doesn't mean he was "miscast". Alda was phenomenal in that role.

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I agree with mandevilleag on this one. In fact, I think the Alda was part of the reason that the character became more insufferable over time.

And I responded before I got to this, which I also agree with:

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It's just my opinion. And yes, I do think he was miscast (even though Alda did redefine and turn the character into his own). The Hawkeye of the books was a jock. He didn't try to impart his holier than thou social morality on everyone around him. I think that was very much Alda's views that he brought to the character. It became overbearing. I readily admit it's one of the greatest sitcoms, and still enjoy watching episodes. Who knows what it would have been like without Alda as Hawkeye. Not sure who else during that timeframe could have played the part. Maybe Christopher Lloyd could have pulled it off. Or really stepping out there, a young Tom Selleck (27 in 1972). Hawkeye was 28 in the books.

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I watched the Reacher movies before reading any of the books so I had no preconceived expectations. I get he's not what the novels describe physically but I thought Cruise played the roll well. I'm not sure what tall physical actor exists who could have matched the book. Blond and 6'-5" actors with that physical build aren't exactly lying around.

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Dolph Lundgren in his prime for Reacher and Uthred

In my Mind Alexander Skarsgard would be a perfect Body style for younger Uhtred ...


I will say this... they absolutely 100% nailed King Alfred with David Dawson. He's exactly how I pictured Alfred and he plays the part perfectly as well:

Do we have a Last Kingdom running thread?! If not, we need one. Would love to talk the show over and can't wait for S5.