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***** Big Brother 23 Discussion SPOILERS *****

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Eso si, Que es
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Claude! said:

So what can be done to shake up the meta and encourage a more active/individual style of gameplay?
Since there is such a focus on production to have higher BIPOC representation, next year it could be Crips V Bloods, that would shake things up
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Eso si, Que es said:

next year it could be Crips V Bloods, that would shake things up

Start with two separate isolated houses of 12 from each gang. They do not know about the other house. Work down to 8 each to give a chance for alliances to form. Then unleash the twist and combine the two houses, boom instant fireworks
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I remember The Glass House on ABC had some different ideas or contests that I wish Big Brother would use. Need to go back and watch. Saw that the whole series is on youtube

Bunk Moreland
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Don't want to get too ahead of myself, but it really looks like the Cookout could be ready to blow up...just need the right sequence of events.

Tiffany is playing the game had and getting cocky. Azah and her do not get along. Derek F is seeing Tiffany trying to cover all her bases this week. Kyland being tethered to Sarah Beth is adding some drama for him.

We need something to force some public friction and division in that alliance and house so bad.
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It's so odd to watch this dynamic. Each of the cookout has better ties with other houseguest than they do with each other, except Hannah and Tiffany. Yet they are forcing themselves to work together.
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It's weird. I wonder why they chose to work together.
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Just saw my last post went Blue.

Thank you all.

The older characters were better, more relatable. Still sad to observe the decline.
Bunk Moreland
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Getting closer...
htxag09
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I don't remember people being so upset about the prizes/punishments in this veto. I don't have an issue with Sarah Beth not taking the veto, but get out of here with the whiny please don't crap. If you want to control what you get don't get second to last
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Thought on improvement.
-I like the separate house idea minus the gangs lol
-Maybe take away payments for the jury and only pay top 3, then maybe they'll try harder
-The veto as I remember wasn't original, take it away or change its power
-Make them sign contracts saying they're not allowed to benefit off their likeness so they will play the game
-A though the rib and I discussed is have everyone go in with a partner, your goal is to keep that person and you're rewarded for it. But your punished if you tell others or when they find out if too early
-create more competitions with other rewards/powers/punishments/immunities
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Also please please please let Tiffany get on the block and have her speech say "if you don't vote for me to stay, then you ain't black!!!!"
tailgatetimer10
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House meeting
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Any chance Xavier can get Christian the votes to stay via the cookout?
tailgatetimer10
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False alarm
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Why the hell did Derek X tell Allysa about Christian so early?

Seems like smart move would have been to pull Xavier aside 30 minutes before veto and explain to him he was going to use it no matter what and give him the breakdown of how it will help both of their games. Gain his trust that he's coming to him beforehand and not blindsiding him and only true enemy made is allyssa which that was going to be the case regardless.
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Anyone know what the fight was about? Tiffany was pissed about something and my guess someone in the cookout is arguing with her or something. Maybe Xavier wants to go in a different direction than she's wanting to?
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That is exactly what is happening. It was her stupid idea to have the +1 to the cookout.

Now everyone does not want their '+1' to go first -- No crap, the +1 was the people that they actually connected with!
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not sure how this will go over but oh well..


I think The Cookout has ensured Big Brother gameplay will be inherently racist from here on out.

yes there have been all white alliances but that is much different. if there were 11 black people and 5 white people and they had formed and all white alliance, then I would agree its the same. but the house has been majority non black every season.

Now, after this season, if you are a white person going in the house, I think from a gameplay perspective people will be assuming the black people are in some type of alliance and gun for them from the get go.

#BB23 twitter has created this. its been extremely racist for years. they are "STAN" every black person no matter how bad they are at the game. and they hate all the white players. its 100% why you saw Hannah being such a b**** about Brent. she was pandering to that audience.

Just feel like if you are white going into the house now and youre looking out for your game, this will be of huge consideration. dont see a way around it.
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yep. if you dont believe the Twitter part...watch who gets Americas favorite. I would bet a lot of money it will be Hannah despite the fact that she is such a B**** and hasnt won anything.
Bunk Moreland
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Jokers current ratings:

1) DX avg 3.93
2) Claire avg 3.40
3) Hannah avg 3.23
4) Kyland avg 2.77

Sarah Beth was higher but in the last handful of days she has fallen.

Agree completely with the twitter brigade stuff and Hannah playing to it. But a ton of people watch BB and don't get on twitter so we'll see as we get further into the season.
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Bunk Moreland said:

But a ton of people watch BB and don't get on twitter so we'll see as we get further into the season.
agree just feel like polls are won much easier with social media influence.
tk for tu juan
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Aggie09Derek said:

Why the hell did Derek X tell Allysa about Christian so early?

And then turn around in a DR session and say how did this spin out of control. Really Derek? Hopefully that DR session was placed out of order by production
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maybe Hanna genuinely didn't like Brent. She hasn't won jack in competitions but she's had multiple people work to keep her safe. She's also influencing little D to get in his ear, successfully.
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So the blowup with Tiffany looked to be with Derek F as she was basically trying to play hardball with his friend Britni and he took exception to it. Straight up said Tiffani was a ***** and he was ready to leave the cookout alliance.
Bunk Moreland
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Kyland wins HOH.
tailgatetimer10
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Tiffany was in the right. That pressure should not have been on her. The live feed notes mislead me.

Bubblez
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I don't get what the gamble is with the twist. They are being given money to play a game for a power.

If they lose, it needs to come with a consequence, like no jury for you.
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HTownAg98 said:

Sex Panther said:

Also, lol at "The Cookout". I'm sure that will work out.


Still sticking with this take?
This may not be the best alliance ever, but there's only one person (Sarah Beth) that thinks it might exist.



Yep
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Sex Panther said:

HTownAg98 said:

Sex Panther said:

Also, lol at "The Cookout". I'm sure that will work out.


Still sticking with this take?
This may not be the best alliance ever, but there's only one person (Sarah Beth) that thinks it might exist.



Yep

Ex Ex Officio Director
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Claire and Derek F are on the block.
tk for tu juan
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Has Tiffany gone nuclear over the noms yet?
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tailgatetimer10 said:

Tiffany was in the right. That pressure should not have been on her. The live feed notes mislead me.

I agree. But she was in Derek's ear day 1 trying to get him to put up a big target in Christian then plays all innocent and maybe we should flip the vote. She can't try to manipulate everyone's hoh then crack when the pressure is turned back on her
Ex Ex Officio Director
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Alyssa won veto in OTEV
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Any chance Alyssa bet on herself to win POV and now has two POV, or maybe one of the others bet on her and threw the comp to her? How will this new twist not change the power in the house
Bunk Moreland
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Sounds like BB told them all of the different powers and when/how they could be used so Britini and Xavier quickly deduced that BB more of less just told them how the next 3 weeks will go, and also they deduced no DE until after that.
 
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