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htxag09 said:

I haven't watched in a couple weeks, but unless something's changed with Azah she definitely doesn't deserve to win nor really stands a chance. But she didn't really turn on Britni. If I'm remembering correctly, she fought pretty hard for her the whole time and was the only one who voted for her to stay.
"turned on her" was probably a poor choice of words but rather went along (albeit maybe with a little pushback) with the plus one plan to vote her out.
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Hopefully the ratings are bad. Unfortunately, that's probably not the case.
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Don't be so sure. Saw this on Joker's...





According to TV Series Finale who gets their stats directly from Nielsen, Sunday's episode saw the biggest drop off in viewership this season.

The key demos fell 29.29% to 0.70, the lowest demo rating of the entire season.

Likewise the viewership dropped 20.60% losing 847,000 from last week's episode with 3.265 million viewers.

It was the lowest ranked episode this season
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PermianBasinAggie said:

Don't be so sure. Saw this on Joker's...





According to TV Series Finale who gets their stats directly from Nielsen, Sunday's episode saw the biggest drop off in viewership this season.

The key demos fell 29.29% to 0.70, the lowest demo rating of the entire season.

Likewise the viewership dropped 20.60% losing 847,000 from last week's episode with 3.265 million viewers.

It was the lowest ranked episode this season
With the NFL back this week i feel the numbers for Thursday and Sunday will drop further as I would bet a good number of viewers are just using this show as a fill in til something better comes along. Interesting to see rating numbers between:
Cowboys vs Buccaneers TNF
Bears vs Rams SNF
and BB.
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I was excited at the beginning of the season because this cast seemed interesting.

But they weren't.

This season quickly fell into the same rut the last few have: one major alliance; everyone votes together so they don't make waves; the same person goes otb week after week because they've already been up once, may as well just keep it going.

It's boring as hell. I haven't watched an episode in a few weeks.

So I started thinking: what would revive the game?

For starters, I think implementing a rule that prevents someone from being on the block two weeks in a row would make things a little more interesting.

Maybe two teams, instead of four? The four teams and the safety at the beginning of this season really limited possibilities to nominate.

What do y'all think?
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Bunk Moreland said:

Interesting current rankings on jokers:

1. Derek X
2. Claire
3. Travis
4. Britini
5. Christian
6. Alyssa
7. Whitney
8. Azah
9. Hannah
10. Tiffany
11. Brent
12. Frenchie
13. Sarah Beth
14. Xavier
15. Kyland
16. Derek F
Wait what?
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The simple fact that the joker rankings have Travis at #3 means it can't be taken seriously. I don't think anyone in this cast is racist nor is the Cookout a racist alliance just like I don't think The Brigade or any other guys alliance is a sexist alliance. They all decided to aligned at the beginning and are sticking to it because they wanted to see a black winner. (Personally Danielle Reyes should have been the first black winner if they had a jury house in that season which is why they now have a jury house for every season following.)

Now their plan has changed as the season went on because in my opinion some of them needed that alliance more than others so it went from sticking together until jury to sticking together until the six. It seems like Tiffany is the one who has struggled with it the most which is why she has made some questionable game moves because she clearly wanted to do whatever she could to keep Clare safe for as long as she could similar to how Lane wanted to keep Britney for as long as he could in season 12. I think only Derek F and Azah are the ones that need that alliance the most. The rest of them are basically waiting for someone to give them a reason to turn on the alliance so they can in turn do the same thing because just like if any of the non Cookout members may fear the backlash from the outside, the Cookout members are also thinking about the same thing so no one wants to be the first to turn on the alliance.

All that being said, I haven't watched it as much because college football is back and NFL starts this week so I can always catch up on what is happening in BB on Twitter if i miss anything worth watching.
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I get what you mean and Im not saying that you are wrong....but at the same time, I completely disagree.

You made a comparison to an all guys alliance. They don't make that alliance just because they are male, they make it of the strong alpha males to run the house, hence why it isn't all males in the alliance. In contrary female alliances try to make it JUST because they are women, that is why they fail because they don't have enough substance to keep them together.

This alliances ONLY commonality is skin tone and they have multiple times voted out the wrong person because of it and are willing to vote out their closest ally to keep it in tact...that makes it nothing like an Alpha male alliance. In contrary as everyone has stated, if numbers were switched and 6 white people went into that game and openly said they refuse to vote out the other 5 just because they have the same skin color there would be a mob at CBS gates and klan hoods being thrown over the walls. To do something simply because of someones race is the definition of old school racism, might not be what people use today but its what racism really is.

Heck, even if you want to us the BS leftist PC definition and say you can only be racist if you have power then this situation even fits that, because they cookout has had the power for weeks and is exerting that power solely based on race.
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I looked at the Big Brother Twitter feed and everyone is calling the show out for racism.
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BrandonC said:

I looked at the Big Brother Twitter feed and everyone is calling the show out for racism.
What! how can it be racist, doesn't racism only go in one direction. Fine for thee but not for me...
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At this point I would have been perfectly happy if CBS had said "We acknowledge the past problems the show has had with racism, and are doing an entirely BIPOC season," and just let it play out, instead of the charade we got this season.
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I would have also. Might have actually been really entertaining. Keep all they have and then add in some of the old school cast types and let the cards fall where they may.
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But by being upfront about it, it would be viewed as "trying to hard" to appease. (not that what they are doing isn't exactly that).
This may be my last season of this and will probably not watch survivor because I feel like it will be done the same way.
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Ha yeah....

but really, what racism has there really been in the past in terms of actually voting someone out or nominating them due to race? I'm sure there have been some but also has been lots where people subconsciously don't put a POC on the block because they don't want anyone to think that could be the reason.
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HTownAg98 said:

At this point I would have been perfectly happy if CBS had said "We acknowledge the past problems the show has had with racism, and are doing an entirely BIPOC season," and just let it play out, instead of the charade we got this season.
So like a "separate" show? But with, you know, "equal" prize money? That kind of thing? Yeah I don't know if that would go over well at all.
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Reminds me of this:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/american-colleges-segregated-housing-graduation-ceremonies/
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Goose said:

HTownAg98 said:

At this point I would have been perfectly happy if CBS had said "We acknowledge the past problems the show has had with racism, and are doing an entirely BIPOC season," and just let it play out, instead of the charade we got this season.
So like a "separate" show? But with, you know, "equal" prize money? That kind of thing? Yeah I don't know if that would go over well at all.
You don't think? That's 2021 version of being anti-racist. You separate everyone and give safe spaces etc
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Hell of an alliance. Another season full of people so intent on winning.
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Claire is placing some ticking time bombs in the CO's heads during her campaign to stay.




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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I get what you mean and Im not saying that you are wrong....but at the same time, I completely disagree.

You made a comparison to an all guys alliance. They don't make that alliance just because they are male, they make it of the strong alpha males to run the house, hence why it isn't all males in the alliance. In contrary female alliances try to make it JUST because they are women, that is why they fail because they don't have enough substance to keep them together.

This alliances ONLY commonality is skin tone and they have multiple times voted out the wrong person because of it and are willing to vote out their closest ally to keep it in tact...that makes it nothing like an Alpha male alliance. In contrary as everyone has stated, if numbers were switched and 6 white people went into that game and openly said they refuse to vote out the other 5 just because they have the same skin color there would be a mob at CBS gates and klan hoods being thrown over the walls. To do something simply because of someones race is the definition of old school racism, might not be what people use today but its what racism really is.

Heck, even if you want to us the BS leftist PC definition and say you can only be racist if you have power then this situation even fits that, because they cookout has had the power for weeks and is exerting that power solely based on race.
Agree with this. Also, I think they know that none of the white house guests this year will likely suggest that its racist because they know they'd get cancelled. Hell, they can't even bring themselves to say or acknowledge there is a black alliance. Look how gingerly Derek X skated around it when he was talking to Britani in the jury house.
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What if Britani busts out a lame-ass rap on finale night about the cookout and the racist season they all endured!!??

What What!?? It's yo girl B here slinging news about the cookout!
Er'body else better look out!
BB1 thru 22 can throw the book out,
'Cause all them white folk got kicked the fook out!

etc.
etc.
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LOL. It's going to be unbearable not just from her but the rest of the HG's.

They're all going to line up to do their "wow! I'm just so shocked. Crazy y'all did it and I'm so proud!" Everyone's got a social media account to worry about.
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I hope Derek X wears this shirt on the final night


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Sex Panther said:

Aggie09Derek said:

Would be dope if Claire went off on Tiffany

Claire won't say **** and will probably talk about how she's so happy to be part of such a historic and important moment in history
Called it. Nice.
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Wish I wasn't, but it was obvious


Absolutely pathetic. I'm done with this garbage show
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She works at Microsoft, would have been instant termination if she said anything to anger the twitter NPCs
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I kinda want Big D to make it to the finale just to watch him fail miserably at the BB Comics comp. I genuinely
don't think he could make it across.
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No hiding their votes based on race...what a world.
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Claire evicted.

Hannah wins HoH for double eviction. Nominates X and Alyssa.

X wins veto. Hannah replaces him with Kyland.

Alyssa will be gone soon and black nirvana will be reached on primetime TV.
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Racism has been defeated!! Woohoo!!!!!
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At least it'll finally be somewhat interesting again and not 100% predictable.
Just gotta execute
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I turned it off once Alyssa lost HoH. No point in watching any more of this episode or the season.
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul

Big Tech IS the empire of lies

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Congrats CBS, they couldn't have done it without you.
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Historic night, as Julie Chen Moonves states

Update the presses, set off the fireworks
 
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