I voted for Tiffany.

So the final vote was 9-0 but Julie didn't reveal the other votes after the 5-0 winning tally. Do they normally reveal the other votes?

4stringAg said:

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So the final vote was 9-0 but Julie didn't reveal the other votes after the 5-0 winning tally. Do they normally reveal the other votes?

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Yeah they always stop once a winner is determined but she reveals remainder after commercials.

There was no way anyone was going to express a contrary view tonight. They would get excoriated. I just hope they realize in private that they were all pawns.

HTownAg98 said:

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There was no way anyone was going to express a contrary view tonight. They would get excoriated. I just hope they realize in private that they were all pawns.

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Agreed but he was all too willing to say it was the greatest alliance in the history of the game. I understand none of them could say anything against in opposition.

I agree he was a good player, but in a normal season he'd have been targeted earlier and would have had to show at least some cards.

With the way it was this year he just got to coast, play it cool to the house, and work internally to keep the CO together.

Has there ever been an asian winner?

Kaycee

Bunk Moreland said:

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I agree he was a good player, but in a normal season he'd have been targeted earlier and would have had to show at least some cards.

With the way it was this year he just got to coast, play it cool to the house, and work internally to keep the CO together.

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Maybe, but the cookout wasn't much different than any of the other powerful alliances that have bullied their way to a super-majority of sorts as the house whittles itself down to the final 5 or 6 people. The cookout was a little different in that it was race-based, so they all viewed the 6 of them being final-6 as an achievement in and of itself. But all alliances die at some point, even if it's on finale night and one person wins and the other loses, so the cookout was no different in that respect. Every single person truly competing to win knows that if they're going to win it, everybody else has to go. And it sure didn't take long for X to boot his strongest competition when the opportunity presented itself (post-final-6 anyways). I think X was thoroughly dominant this season, and while his fellow houseguest knew that too, he did an exceptional job of downplaying it when he could (throwing comps), and keeping the blood from being directly on his hands most of the time. He'd certainly be a target earlier had he not been in the dominant alliance, but I'd bet he'd still do pretty well.

Jimmy McNulty said:

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You hit it when said you know why it's different than every other powerful alliance. No other alliance had people turn a blind eye to admitting it even exists, much less deal with social pressure to dare targeting it. Not to mention likely production help. He played a good game, but he had....privilege's.

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I see what you did there, and that's a very good way of putting it.

No one ever talked about the cookout because they didn't have to. They all played a "not us" game, so they never had to talk strategy. When there isn't a group of six talking together, no one is the wiser. Derek X came the closest to figuring it out, but by then, it was too late.

Oh well, now we can throw this season onto the trash heap of terrible Big Brother seasons, and hope that the celebrity version this winter and next summer is better.

PermianBasinAggie said:

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So, now that the Cookout has established the playbook, what happens next year? CBS has pledged to continue casting its shows like this, where half the cast is POC. Will the white houseguests target black houseguests because they're scared of the Cookout 2.0? Or will they play the role of good woke white person and continue pretending it's okay to get picked off because you're white? Can you imagine the outcry if next year, 2 black folks get nominated on week 1? Might as well slit your own throat.

Or maybe we move on to the next victim group who has never won big brother. No trans has ever won. Let's pack the cast and make next season's goal to go win one for Caitlyn!

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If they do that, I may be done. I stuck with it because there wasn't much else to watch, and was hoping it would turn into a dumpster fire of awfulness down the stretch. If they're going to turn it into "give the next victim group $750,000," they should just cast some, hold a raffle, and give out the money that way. At least you're being honest then.

Jun was the first, Kaycee was second

StillNotAnAggie said:

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All I do is Nguyen said:

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Notice how Frenchie didn't get a word on tonight's live show? I think he may not have been fully on board like everyone pretended to be.

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Frenchie has BLM painted on his truck and his best friend is a gay black guy. He was fully on board.

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I didn't know that. That's interesting

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Yeah Frenchie was pushing for it before the CO even formed. My guess is they didn't give him airtime because 1) early evictees usually get a very short window if any and 2) he'd make it about himself and stammer into some weird point that doesn't make sense.

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Frenchie likely graded REALLY poorly with the audience. He was immediately ranked the lowest houseguest by all the polls.

I think this is the obvious answer. No one liked him, period.

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And he probably looks at that like a self sacrifice to making the season about the greater purpose by his doing.

Flashdiaz said:

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where do we complain about not enough hispanics on the show? I'd like for them to overcompensate and line up next season so we can have a La Pachanga alliance.

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as a white guy with half my friends being Hispanic, and a love for Latin women...I FULLY support this idea!

would be incredible TV

My nig….., latinas es muy bien