TCTTS said:

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The new #Euphoria episode tonight is my favorite of the entire series. I cried before the first 10 min were through. You’re going to want to chase the ep with the chat Nora and I had over on the Prestige TV podcast feed because damn.

— Joanna Robinson (@jowrotethis) January 23, 2022

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Some great scenes and interesting setup for what's to come, but I now find this tweet somewhat baffling, as that was a relatively average episode overall.

Sports-Ag said:

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I thought the Fezco and Cal scene was great. I also need to remember that Rue will not make good decisions, like all the time.

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Yeah, her newest endeavor will most definitely not end well.

Enjoyed the episode, but someone may need to have their medication adjusted if it made them cry.

And Fez was initially supposed to die in season 1. Don't think any theories about that death happening this season are way out there.

DannyDuberstein said:

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And Fez was initially supposed to die in season 1. Don't think any theories about that death happening this season are way out there.

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Good point. I'm convinced *someone* dies this season, with Rue being either directly or tangentially responsible, almost assuredly stemming from her (drug) deal with the devil this past episode. As of now, my three best guesses are either Fez, Elliot, or Cal. Cal seems likely, but his death really wouldn't affect Rue emotionally all that much. So I'm going with either Fez or Elliot, each of which would gut the hell out of her in their own ways (with Fez obviously gutting the audience more).

Weird angle they took with the 2 gay wrestling dudes last episode. Obviously that will be another sub plot with one of them knocking up that girl

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Enjoyed the episode, but someone may need to have their medication adjusted if it made them cry.

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Joanna Robinson freaks out for anything lgbt related. She's weird

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I'm 99% sure she herself is gay/part of the LGBTQ community, so I wouldn't call her "weird" for supporting such things. Seems perfectly fine/normal to me.

The only thing I have an issue with is how many times per podcast she says the phrase, "Do you know what I mean?" It's like a minimum of 20 times per, and it's starting to drive me nuts.

For me it's using the phase "the [x] of it all" like every three minutes.

Granted, a ton of podcasters seem to really overuse that phrase these days.

Haha, yes, that too. Maybe I just listen to too many Ringer podcasts, but all the hosts have their weird ticks. I think Joanna's just happen to be repeated more than the others.

TCTTS said:

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David_Puddy said:

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Weird angle they took with the 2 gay wrestling dudes last episode. Obviously that will be another sub plot with one of them knocking up that girl

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One of those two was a young Cal - it was an entire flashback/cold open devoted to him - and I'm pretty sure the girl he knocked up is his eventual wife, and that the baby is Nate's older brother. So that's probably the last we'll see of all that.

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Ahhh that makes sense. I got a little distracted answering some emails watching last night's episode

ExpressAg11 said:

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I wish it would be Rue that dies off instead of Fez (never going to happen). She continues to be the least likable/interesting character as she just continually screws up. Like, we get it, her character is going to relapse every episode…

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I mean, it's a show explicitly about a teen drug addict, so I don't know what else you're expecting. Everything she does is in direct service of that very conceit. Yes, I agree that, right now, she's a terrible, even insufferable person at times, but that's her arc, and the entire point.

David_Puddy said:

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TCTTS said:

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David_Puddy said:

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Weird angle they took with the 2 gay wrestling dudes last episode. Obviously that will be another sub plot with one of them knocking up that girl

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One of those two was a young Cal - it was an entire flashback/cold open devoted to him - and I'm pretty sure the girl he knocked up is his eventual wife, and that the baby is Nate's older brother. So that's probably the last we'll see of all that.

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Ahhh that makes sense. I got a little distracted answering some emails watching last night's episode

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This show can admittedly be hit or miss when casting young version of its main cast. Some are spot-on, while others, like young Cal, look/act nothing like their counterpoints in present day. So, yeah, if you missed Rue's voice over, I can totally see how you'd have no idea that was Cal. Because there's no way someone as imposing as Eric Dane looked/sounded anything like that kid in high school.

Feel like this episode was too artsy. I'm not sure if the creator is just doing that more and more now. If feels like when there's dialogue he makes it's into art and there are times where I'm just like you don't need to make everything so out there.

Also, what an exit by Cal.

WAY too artsy. Right there with you. And getting too meta as well. Compared to last season, and even the beginning of this season, there's just hardly any plot right now. Season one worked so well because of all the secrets everyone was keeping and using to their advantage and you were just on the edge of your seat waiting to see who was going to find out what when and how it was all going to go down. But now, it feels like nearly every secret is out in the open, barely anything filled that void in return, and there's nothing really driving the plot forward. So now all the depression and bleakness and fretting feels like such a slog without anything to counterbalance it. I thought for sure we'd dive into Rue's situation with the suitcase full of drugs and that the tension of that horrible plan was going to compound and drive everything else. But no, instead, tonight was just more of the exact same drama we've been dealing with for four episodes now, with only Cal, of all people, moving forward in any way. Granted, we're only at the halfway point, with four hours still left to go, but they really need to mix it up and get out of this all-style-no-plot funk they've been in for at least a couple weeks now.

Sorry fellas but I totally disagree. I love the artistic look of the show. Everything else you see these days seems to be mostly straight forward when it comes to film style and prioritizes plot over everything. Euphoria flips the script and focuses on the cinematography and pairs it with a fantastic sound track. No other show I know of is doing this right now. I appreciate the originality.

Anyone here seen We Are Who We Are?

I've never seen Euphoria but I really enjoyed that show so I'm wondering if it's a similar vibe to that. Not sure if I want to commit to this yet.

I'm normally more plot interested vs. artsy but I'm really enjoying this season. That said, I would like to see plotlines start making moves, but I thought episode 4 was a slow burn on what's to come, and I loved it.

Music and cinematography are incredible.

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Teddy Perkins said:

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Sorry fellas but I totally disagree. I love the artistic look of the show. Everything else you see these days seems to be mostly straight forward when it comes to film style and prioritizes plot over everything. Euphoria flips the script and focuses on the cinematography and pairs it with a fantastic sound track. No other show I know of is doing this right now. I appreciate the originality.

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I didn't say I didn't like the artistic *look* of the show. I'm on record multiple times in this thread as saying I absolutely love the look, especially since they switched to film for season two. It's some of the best cinematography on TV, and I hope that never changes.

Rather, what I'm taking about is the increasingly dreamy presentation of the narrative, while plot/character development has seemingly taken a back seat. It feels like we're hallucinating *with* Rue now, more so than ever, and its being reflected in certain random vignettes, edits, and the overall meta-ness that the show is leaning into more and more these past few episodes. And again, that stuff wouldn't bother me so much if the plot didn't feel like it's on pause, and so many of the characters didn't feel like they're stuck in the same ruts they've been in for a while now.

That said, again, there's plenty of season left, and I do agree with Tonyperkins that last night's episode was more than likely a purposeful slow burn. It felt intentional to take a beat and not dive into, say, the Rue/suitcase situation just yet, I'm just hoping things finally pick up again in episode five.

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I get it, it's putting less emphasis on plot but you did say WAY too artsy. I just disagree. I love it.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Anyone here seen We Are Who We Are?

I've never seen Euphoria but I really enjoyed that show so I'm wondering if it's a similar vibe to that. Not sure if I want to commit to this yet.

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Definitely on that same wavelength, just way more visceral, stylized, and in-your-face. We Are Who We Are is like the somewhat muted version of Euphoria, if you can believe that. But it very much features the same kind of teen couple/dynamic at its center.

I'll give the first episode a shot.

Welp that was definitely a mic drop by Cal. Is this the first time we have seen Aaron the other son on screen? I dont remember him previously. I enjoyed the episode, these people are so wack, haha.

Aaron was at the carnival thing last season for the chili cook off. That's the only other time I remember seeing him.

They've also now shown that family photo twice - the one that Cal took off the wall - and there's a third, way younger son in that photo who we've never seen. I wonder if they'll ever address that.

TCTTS said:

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Aaron was at the carnival thing last season for the chili cook off. That's the only other time I remember seeing him.

They've also now shown that family photo twice - the one that Cal took off the wall - and there's a third, way younger son in that photo who we've never seen. I wonder if they'll ever address that.

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Noticed that too when Cal took the photo off the wall.

The last few episodes to me have felt a little all over the place and not really moving the plot along. Have a feeling we'll float around for another episode or two though before things ramp up.